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genius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-05 12:11 AM
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We need to have intelligent conversations like Democrats
Edited on Thu Jan-13-05 12:13 AM by genius
To allow us to make intelligent decisions, we need to present concerns, issues and information and discuss them as we would any other subject we are researching so as to make the best decision. Too often, here, when people present ideas that are viewed as something supporters of one candidate don't people to be reminded of or know about, they attack the person who brings these up. The original poster was probably not seeking to bash but was wanted an honest discussion. Honest discussion is not bashing and those who seek it should not be attacked or labeled bashers. I am tired of seeing people using Rovian tactics in responding to questions and concerns. We need to be open-minded. All candidates have weaknesses and sometimes it helps to allow undecideds to explore why those weaknesses are important or are less important than the candidates strengths. Sometimes the people asking the question or bringing up an issues are on your side but need more information to decide how important their concerns are.
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blue neen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-05 12:16 AM
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1. I have had the same concerns.
I honestly want to know all sides of these issues. It would be great if people would just state the information about candidates instead of trying to hit us over the head with it.

Information is a GOOD thing. Providing information is a valued service right now.
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Debs Donating Member (723 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-05 01:19 AM
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2. I agree
We especially should be able to do so among ourselves. I understand that the right has attacked us so long, and we are now ready to fight, that sometimes it turns into a defensiveness that builds a wall around us. That is a mistake. I hope your message gets through.
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BrendaStarr Donating Member (491 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-05 03:09 AM
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6. You are forgetting the trolls
As a well known forum for Democrats, DU is a magnet for trolls and operatives.

Of course, we all want to see intelligent discussion, but when a trolls or operatives (paid posters from either side) are working then being docile and gentle is not the best way to deal with that person.

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DemBones DemBones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-05 02:23 AM
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3. Good points. nt
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-05 02:26 AM
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4. I hope we could do that
It's the nature of the internets to get alittle... flamey... if you know what I mean. We need to speak to each other here as if we were speaking face to face rather than hiding behind our monitors.
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Lexingtonian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-05 03:00 AM
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5. Repetition is tiring

Personally, I think you're starting too many threads. Most of the topics are extremely hashed out, most of them in the Dean flamewars of late '03. A lot of it is irritation at that- your obsessiveness, narrow point of view, dogmatism, and selfrighteous take is penny wise and pound foolish to folks like me.
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