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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-05 09:32 AM
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Poll question: How would the media analyze Dean if he became the DNC chair?
Let's look at what the corporate media would do if Dean was appointed the DNC chairman.
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thedailyshow Donating Member (695 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-05 09:33 AM
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1. flamebait thread.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-05 11:24 AM
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15. Of course, it is...
You only have to look at the ts.
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Nicholas D Wolfwood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-05 09:34 AM
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2. They've already said it will show we're weak on security.
As heard on CNN yesterday.
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farmbo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-05 09:36 AM
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3. Dean's crafty enough to control his agenda ...
...and outspoken enough to generate tremendous press coverage.
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Cheswick2.0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-05 09:36 AM
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4. How would we get through a day at DU without another bullshit flamebait
poll about Dean?

But by all means let's let the media determine who is DNC chair. :crazy:
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aden_nak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-05 09:51 AM
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5. Yes, we can trust the media. They are a shining beacon of truth.
/vomit
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-05 10:25 AM
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6. So anything that doesn't swoon Dean is "flamebait"?
Can you discuss the prospect of how the media will paint Dean without acting like some Taliban who declares that it is "Allah" or no one?

The poll is not about how the media will determine who is DNC chair. It's about how the media will project about the decision about the DNC chair after the decision is done.

Perhaps you think what the media portrays and projects doesn't matter...
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Cheswick2.0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-05 10:45 AM
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8. no, Did I say anything that was not swooning over Dean was flamebait?
Edited on Thu Jan-13-05 10:58 AM by Cheswick2.0
Nope, I didn't. I think we are pretty clear on your methods and motives.


By all means let us invite the MSM to determine who should be DNC chair. Because letting them determine our choices has worked so well in the past 4 years. :crazy:
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-05 11:27 AM
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16. "your methods and motives"
I keep forgetting that I shouldn't respond to you since you tend to act like a child.

It won't happen again.
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RogueTrooper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-05 11:13 AM
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13. I think the perception of flame bait
migh come from all of all those negative choices ( plus all of the above ) you gave the good posters of Democratic Underground zulchzulu. Probably have few positive outcomes as voting options assisted in some posters having the view that this is flamebait.
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-05 11:30 AM
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17. Um..there were other choices and a choice called "Other"
Perhaps we could get DU to offer 50 options for a poll.
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RogueTrooper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-05 12:14 PM
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22. Indeed
but the unbalanced distribution between what one might consider pro-Dean and anti-Dean polling options might lead somepeople to think that you are push polling. I am sure you can see how your poll might my misunderstood by some?
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-05 10:29 AM
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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-05 10:49 AM
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9. Hard to tell, but I do know one thing for sure. We win nothing by playing
it safe, by worrying what the other side will think of us. We've done that for far too long, running focus groups instead of standing up for ourselves unapologetically, and what has it done for us? In a world where the perception is of growing danger, the Democrats are thought of as weak, too afraid of their own shadows to make a peep in their defense.

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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-05 11:36 AM
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19. I totally agree
Edited on Thu Jan-13-05 11:38 AM by zulchzulu
I'm glad that Daschle and Gephardt are gone...and I even wouldn't mind Dean as DNC chair...I don't think it would be the best use of his time when he could be focusing entirely on DFA, which I participate in.

I've been looking at what the DNC chair actually does and it appears to be more of a fundraiser that has to listen to all sides (i.e. moderates, etc.) and must work with committees on all sides of the Democratic party, which lean more in the moderate zone than to the farthur left (which Dean is not even really politically in anyway).

I like reasoned discussion on the issue and find any blinded kneejerk reactions that don't like anything other than glowing praise of Dean as some kind of Savior as petulant.
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BlueManDude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-05 10:57 AM
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10. Dems take "Hard left turn" with DNC Chair pick
however Dean is too smart and tough to let them get away with it for too long.
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JaneQPublic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-05 11:05 AM
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11. The only chair the media would like is a "Republican clone" (nt)
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RogueTrooper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-05 11:10 AM
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12. Crafty push polling meets flamebait
nice, very nice and such mature behaviour to boot.
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ibegurpard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-05 11:18 AM
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14. Who cares?
The only kind of person the media wouldn't say anything about (considering that they parrot the GOP line almost word-for-word) is a timid mouse...the exact kind of person we DON'T need in the position.
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ecstatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-05 11:31 AM
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18. Fug the media
They paint us in a bad light anyway. The goal is to get our party together so we can develop a clear voice and message so we can win elections.
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PassingFair Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-05 11:44 AM
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20. Talk about flame bait! Refuse to vote. Now ask yourself...
Was Terry McAuliffe "dragged through the mud" anywhere but here?

We are talking about an INTERNAL position here.

What I see are DEMOCRATS dragging another dem through the mud.
I don't see us railing against Gillespie very often. Why not, OH Yeah, we don't get to vote on the puke chair. Dean is the best man for the job, he will bring in a new era of commitment and funding.

What are you guys afraid of? The truth?
Or are you willing to preserve the status quo in the hopes that enough of the second-class corporate hay will filter down to you.
It's time to clean out the stables.
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-05 12:02 PM
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21. The same media who sold us "WMDs" would call us crazies.
But they do that anyway.

The media will paint us however the GOP wants us to be painted, no matter who we pick- so we might as well ignore them & pick DEAN- the best choice.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-05 12:45 PM
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ShaneGR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-05 12:47 PM
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24. Your post answers your own question...
So why ask?
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