kentuck
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Thu Jan-13-05 12:42 PM
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The truth about Bush is so unbelievable it cannot be told.... |
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He is a con-man, a manipulator, and a propagandist. He has no qualms about lying if it furthers his agenda because he believes he can get away with it...and he has. He has fooled enough of the people enough of the time to totally screw up our country and, with the assistance of his loyal propagandists, has been able to convince enough people that somewhere behind the facade of a leader, is a competent person that knows what he is talking about. The sad truth is that he is a total incompetent and should not be trusted with scissors. The truth is so bold and so obvious but it cannot be told, otherwise, it would expose us as a nation of fools. The press must continue to cover his disastrous policies as if they are rooted in rationality for fear of being exposed themselves as the incompetents they truly are. It's a Catch-22 in that in exposing Mr. Bush, they must expose themselves.
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democrat in Tallahassee
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Thu Jan-13-05 12:45 PM
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1. Kentuck, you speak the truth. Every innuendo about Clinton |
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was discussed, parsed, and repeated over and over. Here is the truth for all to see and it can't be mentioned. I am so embarrassed for our country.
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Thu Jan-13-05 12:47 PM
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2. I think you're onto something there. |
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Thu Jan-13-05 12:51 PM
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3. "a conspiracy so monstrous" |
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"The individual is handicapped by coming face to face with a conspiracy so monstrous he cannot believe it exists." -- President J Edgar Hoover
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Thu Jan-13-05 12:52 PM
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4. You put it succinctly--in telling the truth about * |
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they'd have to expose their complicity. Love the expression "should not be trusted with scissors." I'll be using it when discussing * !
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Thu Jan-13-05 12:53 PM
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that people like Sumner Redstone benifit greatly from the propoganda machine. Any dissenters within their ranks are immediately expunged
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Thu Jan-13-05 01:03 PM
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I never thought of it that way kentuck. And the more I think of it, the more it makes sense.
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Thu Jan-13-05 01:04 PM
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7. It is so true & utterly shameful |
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It has been predicted that the press will turn on *co. sometime btw. 3/05 and 11/05 and that he will fall from power because of a scandle involving the press.
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Thu Jan-13-05 01:07 PM
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8. Watergate was slow to develop too... |
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Things weren't really better 30 years ago...
I made this point elsewhere a couple of days ago, but remember, that it was the RESULT of Watergate that brought on the popularity of 'investigative reporters' and 'journalism majors'. Before Watergate, nobody wanted to be a reporter!
Until Deep Throat HANDED Wood-Stein the info, NOBODY, at NO (mainstream) paper, at NO mainstream broadcast network went against the 'party line' and the Republicans controlled the media enough to make the Democrats nominate their weakest opponent, McGovern, and go on to win by a LANDSLIDE, by today's standards...
Many people hated Nixon for his personality, if nothing else, but Watergate stayed out of the main stream media's radar for months and months...
Interestingly, the leaking of the Pentagon papers in 1971 didn't really change anything, so if history is to repeat itself, much more has to happen before the 'hem-stitch' of lies start to unravel...
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Thu Jan-13-05 01:22 PM
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14. how much more do they need to know about the man ? |
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What he has done already makes Watergate pale in comparison.
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Thu Jan-13-05 03:14 PM
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I share your frustration, but in my opinion, we have to understand the difference between wrong and ILLEGAL.
Nixon BROKE THE LAW any number of times. He stood to GO TO JAIL.
So far, the only thing "illegal" I see Bush doing is fighting an illegal war and as it stands, no charges have been filed against them. But I know nothing of international law.
As for good & bad, right & wrong, however, I completely agree - Bush is 1,000% times worse than Nixon, even worse than Wilson. The guy and his followers are TOXIC to everything that *I* understood to be "American" and yet they're able to walk this razor's edge every day.
I believe that comparisons to him and Hitler ARE apt, even though the MSM has deemed it "verbotten" and made even MoveOn.org stand down on hosting an ad making the comparison...
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Thu Jan-13-05 03:16 PM
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23. Interesting parallels |
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Reporters did actually TRY to get info out of the WH, but Nixon rarely held press conferences, and if he didn't want to answer the question, he didn't. He was way smoother than chimpy about it, though, and could articulate his position much better than weecowboy. The Nixon WH was an armed camp--loyalty or death. Of course, a lot of the players in this admin (Cheney, Rummy, e.g.) lurked in those halls, they learned the drill well.
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Thu Jan-13-05 01:07 PM
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9. And I think this is why |
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we cannot as a nation come to grips with him. If we were to sit every adult down and discuss the REAL * it would make so many people newvous, scared, apprehensive and worried that the reaction is about what we have now. Meaning, they are thinking; "I can't bear to think this could really happen, therefore it isn't. If you continue to tell me the President is a corrrupt, devious, double dealing individual I will accuse you of being an alarmist" We can no longer think people will rise up in anger against him. What is occuring is so blatantly corrupt we may have to hope he collapses under his own weight............:shrug:
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Thu Jan-13-05 01:07 PM
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I think for some people, it's just the fact that the truth is too frightening to contemplate. That's why they get so angry when somebody points out to them how stupid * and his policies (and his advisors) are. Anger rises from fear. HOWEVER, the press has this additional concern -- that they have been going along with him, not discovering the truth when that's supposedly their job. To start running stories with the truth about * now would point out how wrong they have been in the past. And nobody likes to prove themselves to be wrong. Hmm!
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Thu Jan-13-05 01:09 PM
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11. Agree 100%....plus he has mastered faking compassion and being just |
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one of the guys....What gives him away is his eyes, which show his cruelty when he is crossed or questioned about something he doesn't want to talk about.....Uuuuggghhhh!
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Thu Jan-13-05 05:27 PM
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27. I notice his eyes, too. They wobble. n/t |
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Thu Jan-13-05 01:14 PM
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12. No WMD's says it all. How can the world give him a pass on that? |
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Thu Jan-13-05 01:21 PM
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13. The 'world' does not, and the 'world' is who we should be working with |
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Thu Jan-13-05 01:31 PM
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15. Where is the newspaper... |
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...with the no-WMD story topped by a huge picture of the chimp with "LIAR!" over his face? Where? If it were Gore, the NYPost would've had that very front page today. The traditional media are totally complicit in this fascist takeover, right down to the afraid-of-their-corporate-masters small-town newspapers. Brilliant original post, Kentuck.
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Thu Jan-13-05 03:11 PM
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21. I think that Bush now believes that the WMD were transferred to the |
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Social Security program in the US.
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Thu Jan-13-05 01:55 PM
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16. Great concept kentuck ... |
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" And oftentimes excusing of a fault Doth make the fault the worse by the excuse" - W.S.
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Thu Jan-13-05 02:08 PM
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"As democracy is perfected, the office of the president represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron."
H. L. Mencken, 1920
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Thu Jan-13-05 02:18 PM
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18. kentuck, you are a master of the obvious.......... |
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It's just too bad that most Americans pay so little attention to our strange reality. The facts are hiding right in front of our eyes, but those eyes must be open to see the irrationality of it all.
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Thu Jan-13-05 02:33 PM
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19. He really is truly aweful |
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He is such a horrible president, most uninformed people will think you're a crank if you list all the evil crap this man has done.
The right wing demonized Clinton so much that people got tired of it... then they put a real demon in the whitehouse.
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Thu Jan-13-05 03:01 PM
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20. Having talked to Germans and Japanese who lived through WWII, |
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I recall them saying that they suspected the truth about their governments but didn't want to believe that their country could sink so low. It was so much easier to pretend that everything that was fine and that the victims somhow deserved their fates.
I went thorugh a similar evolution on the question of the Vietnam War. Thanks to its partly Latvian heritage, my family was reflexively anti-Communist, and we were willing to go along with the idea of "liberating people from Communism."
But doubts began to creep in. If that South Vietnamese government was so great, why was it getting overthrown all the time? Why were all those Europeans against the war? I still wanted to believe that the U.S. was always on the side of the good guys, and it was easy to do so in the exurban town where I spent my high school years, where all the teachers reinforced automatic acceptance of whatever the U.S. military did.
I wasn't forced to think my beliefs through until I reached college. There I met professors whom I respected who were against the war, and I was forced to do some reading and study. Ouch. Further reading over the years and experiences working with blue collar workers on the bottom rungs (industrial temps) pushed me farther and farther to the left.
It's a hard lesson to learn that one's country isn't perfect, and it's a frightening one, because if you've been taught lies all your life, what can you depend on?
It's so much easier to play along with the prevailing memes--until something happens to shock you out of your complacency.
I hope that the wake-up call for the American people comes in a non-violent form, not in the form of bombs, as it did in Germany and Japan.
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Thu Jan-13-05 05:03 PM
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24. More Varnish on the Facade of Deception else the rot shows |
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Dammit all to Hell, we show the World we are a Nation of Dolts. Scammed, Conned, and Fooled .... we follow other Nations of the past with sim stories and results.
and we thought it couldn't happen to US... Mrs Murphy was right... if it can happen... its only a matter of time.
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Thu Jan-13-05 05:16 PM
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25. You should write professionally. |
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Thu Jan-13-05 05:22 PM
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26. The world already KNOWS we're a "nation of fools". |
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In fact, at least half of the nation already knows it.
So what's to "expose"? Not that the press or half the nation are incompetent. No, rather that they are COMPLICIT. And that is what they are REALLY trying to cover up. But the world already knows that, too. So what are they really accomplishing by aiding and abeting the administration? They are only making matters worse for themselves and for everyone else. It's time for them to start telling the truth. It won't expose them at all; everyone already knows what they are.
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Thu Jan-13-05 05:48 PM
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The Multi-corps and the Media are part of the elite. They benefit from the Bush Junta. If Amerikans that are not part of the upper crust realize that they are being and have been scammed by both major parties, perhaps there will be some demand for actual representation. Amerika has been a Oligarchy for many years. Now it is moving toward a Fascist Police State, slowly so that most don't notice it.
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Thu Jan-13-05 06:27 PM
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30. Like Hitler, history will remember him with awe shame. |
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You couldn't write something like this a few years back and expect to be believed. It's all so unbelievable.
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