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pretzel4gore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-05 10:50 PM
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Clint Eastwood threatens to kill Michael Moore
damn, i thought eastwood was a thoughtful type, not a neocon bully:
http://entertainment.iafrica.com/news/403531.htm
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Bouncy Ball Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-05 10:52 PM
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1. Geez.
Hey Clint, stop taking yourself so seriously. Damn.
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mohinoaklawnillinois Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-05 10:52 PM
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2. I think Clint meant that comment as a joke. n/t
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mcscajun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-05 10:53 PM
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3. It was a joke...
...Clint was playing on his "Dirty Harry" persona, is all.
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-05 12:14 AM
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25. Moore's a MI boy, bet he's a better shot!
I suspect it's a joke but I'm going to pass on Eastwood's next movie, which I planned to see, just to make a statement. Not funny!
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-05 11:46 AM
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70. I think he was also making fun of the way Moore treated Charlton Heston
for example. It was a joke!
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Rick Myers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-05 10:54 PM
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4. Go ahead...
Make his day...

ACK!!! :shrug:
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-05 10:55 PM
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5. Eastwood is just appealing to his base...
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Laurab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-05 10:56 PM
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9. Yep
In the language they'd understand!
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goddess40 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-05 10:08 AM
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57. Just like the pro-lifers egging on the nuttest among them
what if some fan(atic) follows through on Clint's "joke", sorry but it wasn't funny.
Cheating on the square as Al Franken says. Joking but not really.
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democracyindanger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-05 10:56 PM
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6. Unbelievable
IT WAS A FUCKING JOKE.

"Staff reporter" should be fucking canned--if not for being an idiot, then for being lazy and pulling a story off of Drudge.
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El Supremo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-05 10:56 PM
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7. Well, Michael had better be armed, n/t
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Lautremont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-05 10:56 PM
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8. I'd say he was joking, but I'd also guess he was
referring directly to his buddy Charleton. He's probably still pissed about it.
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-05 10:57 PM
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10. It sounds like a joke. If MM shows up at your door with a camera,
you would know he is going after you. You know your going to get your ass kicked in a PR way.

I took it as a joke.
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complain jane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-05 10:57 PM
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11. who knows what the actual context was.
the article only gave such a brief snippet.
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democracyindanger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-05 10:59 PM
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15. The context
was he was onstage, accepting an award.

Crimony.
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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-05 10:58 PM
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12. Yes, it was a joke, and here's a better take on the story.
http://www.nydailynews.com/front/story/270770p-231851c.html

Excerpt:

The audience erupted in laughter, and Eastwood grinned dangerously.

"I mean it," he added, provoking more guffaws.

Sitting well out of range at a table in back, Moore - who received a special "Freedom of Expression" award for his anti-Bush polemic "Fahrenheit 9/11" - chuckled.

(snipped)

But, in this case, Moore's rep told me yesterday: "Michael laughed along with everyone else, and took Mr. Eastwood's comments in the lighthearted spirit in which they were given."
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pretzel4gore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-05 11:08 PM
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16. this is good...
after hearing that dennis hopper was a bushlover, for example, i'm paranoid about any sweetness n light to that vile bush pos and when i saw the 'staff writer' bit (eastwood threatens michael moore) i 'assumed' the worst....lol. btw mike's tweaking of mr cold dead hands was rather mean when you think of it....it's not fair we liberals can act like that to nice guys who happen to be repub heroes, it just aint fair, is it!
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RafterMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-05 02:08 AM
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33. Thanks for that shot of reason, nycgirl
There are plenty of real horrible things to get upset about these days -- no point in inventing them.
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VOX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-05 08:46 AM
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47. Thanks, NYCGirl. n/t
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-05 09:50 AM
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52. Goody! Killing humor is perfect in fascist Amerikka!
I feel so much better now - and think at the spirit in which the NRA goons will take it - Eastwood might as well put a contract on MM with all knuckledraggers.
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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-05 09:58 AM
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54. Humor is IMPORTANT in "fascist Amerikka", as you put it.
So now we have to watch our language because of the "knuckledraggers"? Might as well censor everything for the lowest common denominator. The freepers would love it — no sex, no violence, no political speech, nothing that would inflame anyone.
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wicket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-05 10:59 PM
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13. It was just a joke!
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Downtown Hound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-05 10:59 PM
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14. Is Michael feeling lucky?
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-05 11:08 PM
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17. You know, that wouldn't be the smartest thing to do on camera.
I think Moore might put that in one of his movies.
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jjtss Donating Member (123 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-05 11:13 PM
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18. I think Mr. Eastwood's successes have.......
gone to his head. That whole thing sounds like a very public and veiled threat to Mr. Moore to show the world that Mr. Eastwood is a very politically powerful person and that he can hurt dissenters. Bet Michael Moore has some unusual difficulties in the future.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-05 12:39 AM
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-05 11:19 PM
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19. Sort of a roast kind of a comment
And having Michael show up at your doorstep would be alot like having 60 Minutes show up at your doorstep used to be.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-05 11:27 PM
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20. I can't believe Eastwood is dumb enough
to align himself with the repukes/fascists!

This is a link to Clint Eastwood's contributions..he sure doesn't contribute much, politically speaking.

http://newsmeat.com/celebrity_political_donations/Clint_Eastwood.php
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theboss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-05 12:42 AM
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29. Oy vey
Oy vey oy vey oy fucking vey.

I give up. This place really is just a leftist version of Free Republic sometimes.
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democracyindanger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-05 12:45 AM
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30. That's why
it's best to go to the Lounge and only make occassional forays out to confirm why it's best to stay in the Lounge.
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tngledwebb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-05 10:43 AM
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63. How can the left be another version of the right?
It's like saying the ACLU is a leftist version of the Aryan nation. Doesn't parse.
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theboss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-05 11:26 AM
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68. That's not what I said.
Maybe it would have read better as "Leftist equivalent of Free Republic."

In other words, both are sites full of reactionaries who misread articles and post ridiculous opinions based entirely upon their inability to read. The only difference is the politics informing the opinions.
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tngledwebb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-05 11:44 AM
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69. Full of..reactionaries with...ridiculous opinions, and an
Edited on Fri Jan-14-05 11:44 AM by tngledwebb
inability to read to boot? That seems a bit over the top. DU is a big tent, but only a tiny minority here fit your characterization.

Don't take this the wrong way, but you've made an unfair and sweeping generalization that would fit easily in the mouth of a freeper, were he in the DU bashing mode, as they so often are for want of anything more creative ever taking root in their little ditto-skulls.

Or more likely Rove has instructed them all to turn up the heat on one of the most dangerous blogs to the future of the Bush regime. And the NYT can quote me on that.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-05 06:24 PM
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72. bye.
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hector459 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-05 07:36 AM
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40. Well, he's "dumb enough" to be a Republican supporting Bush.
How dumb can you get?
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newsguyatl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-05 11:28 PM
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21. joke or not, it's NOT funny.
i'd sue his ass
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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-05 11:32 PM
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22. I don't think you can sue for a joke, no matter if it's a good one or not.
Remember the Falwell vs. Flynt case.

It's not funny if you're just some schmuck on the street, but if you're know for playing Dirty Harry, it was probably good for a big laugh.
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stopbush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-05 11:35 PM
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23. Oh, c'mon...it's a figure of speech, like "fuck you."
If Eastwood had said that to MM, would Moore be checking his back for impending sodomy? Really, the audience laughed, MM laughed and his agent said it was light-hearted.

To quote Warren Oates in Stripes, "lighten up, Francis."
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-05 05:08 AM
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36. I'm gonna sue you for saying "fuck you" to me...
You huwt my feeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeewings!

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July Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-05 09:04 AM
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49. On the other hand, imagine Moore saying the same thing about him.
I can hear the hatriots now.
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democracyindanger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-05 11:46 PM
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24. Sure it is
Purely a nod to Moore's investigative talents. Damn, people need to lighten up.

And for what it's worth, Eastwood volunteered to do an anti-California gubernatorial recall commercial.
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anitar1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-05 12:27 AM
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26. Old Clint Is a real RW n/t
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theboss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-05 12:41 AM
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28. Oh sweet fancy moses
I once told my best friend, "I'm gonna kill you" after he revealed the story of me getting drunk and passing out in the women's bathroom of a Subway.

I suppose he should sue me for a threat.
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Gyre Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-05 01:39 AM
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31. That's a violation of California Penal Code section 422.
Terrorist Threats. The conditional nature of it is not a defense. The DA in Ventura County (I think that's where he is) should have their investigators pay him a little visit. Might teach him to keep his fucking ugly little mouth shut.

Gyre
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Blue_Tires Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-05 01:51 AM
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32. Clint...
"A good man always knows his limitations"
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Carolab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-05 03:27 AM
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34. Maybe it was a reference to his new film about "mercy killing".
Edited on Fri Jan-14-05 03:50 AM by Carolab
Or should I say "eugenics".
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democracyindanger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-05 03:50 AM
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35. Congratulations
To everyone who took the threat seriously: Way to go. You bought it hook, line and sinker. Just one click on NYCGirl's post would lead you to the original story which explains all. Instead, you grabbed onto the iafrica version of ananova's version of the original gossip column. Way to be discerning information consumers. :eyes:
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-05 05:09 AM
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37. To Quote The Prophet,

"Fuck 'Em If They Can't Take A Joke"
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Pepperbelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-05 06:24 AM
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38. If you breathe into a paper sack, you'll stop hyperventilating. nt
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hector459 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-05 07:35 AM
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39. Now I have lost all respect for Clint.
Are there anymore former heros that I will have to give up on?
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Connie_Corleone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-05 07:45 AM
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41. What is wrong with some of the people here??!!
JOKE, JOKE, JOKE, JOKE!!!!!!!!

It was a JOKE!!
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tngledwebb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-05 08:04 AM
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43. Now wonder what would happen if Mr. Moore, or one of us, said the same
about Eastwood, or Bush or Cheney? What you think CC? Gitmo or oblivion? Funny ha ha then?
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-05 09:53 AM
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53. IOKIYAR. All righty then. nt
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tngledwebb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-05 08:01 AM
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42. Now wonder what would happen if Mr. Moore, or one of us, said the same
about Eastwood, or more to the point, Bush or Cheney? Wonder what cage in Gitmo we'd be going to then? If we were so lucky?
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AZCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-05 08:15 AM
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44. One only has to read about Susan Sontag's recent obit...
Jonathan Alterman has written recently in his column about the gross distortion by the Economist in an obituary about Susan Sontag. Compare the treatment she gets to the glossing-over of the comments made by radical clerics Falwell and Robertson after September 11th.

Yeah, if a leftie suggested anything near Eastwood's remarks there would be a special place for that person - just in time for the new AG to scrap the last of those 'quaint' anti-torture provisions. How many times do nobodies get investigated for either anti-Bush remarks or anything remotely suggesting that he is actually a murdering chimp?
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tngledwebb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-05 08:43 AM
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46. AzCat, we are on the same page again, despite differences elsewhere.
Good find too.
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AZCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-05 09:00 AM
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48. Thanks - Alterman is incensed about this
And rightly so, IMHO.

I agree - just because we don't always come down on the same side of a particular issue doesn't mean that we can't see eye-to-eye on others.
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Connie_Corleone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-05 10:05 AM
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56. It's illegal to threaten the president/vice-president, joke or not.
If Moore said it in a joking way about Eastwood, most people would know it was a joke. The others who can't tell a joke from a real threat, well...
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tngledwebb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-05 10:40 AM
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Beg to differ- JOKING about killing the prez is NOT illegal. Yet.
It happens all the time in the real world. But if such joking was reported in the media, what would happen next to whoever said it, you, Joe Sixpack, or Michael Moore, do you think? I'll tell you what- they're going to 'em make an offer they can't refuse.

At any rate, Clint's attempt at humor eludes, as does his his appeal.
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tngledwebb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-05 10:40 AM
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62. Self delete.
Edited on Fri Jan-14-05 10:53 AM by tngledwebb
n/t
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Catchawave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-05 08:20 AM
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45. I guess in the absence of voice inflection....
...it does look a little freeperish in the article !

What would have been funny, he could have said

"if mm shows up at my door I'll ask him "mr moore are you feeling lucky?" We all know what that scene LOOKS like :)

I have a feeling the very creative Mikie will be using this scenario from the awards show in one of his future projects!
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Liberal In Texas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-05 09:40 AM
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50. Joke or not, there are enough nut cases out there that bandying
about things like this in a public forum just gives the wackos ideas.
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-05 09:45 AM
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51. A joke like yelling "fire" in a crowded theater.
Edited on Fri Jan-14-05 09:47 AM by robbedvoter
In the charged atmosphere the fascists created in this county, this kind of 'humor" is just as irresponsible as Limpball's "entertainment" that sent killers at Daschle's house.
P.s. Never had any respect for ol' Clint, nor did I appreciate his "artistry" - I believe his success is based solely on politics.
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no name no slogan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-05 09:59 AM
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55. I say we jump to conclusions FIRST, and sort out the facts LATER
Just like we did in Iraq, when we went WMD hunting. And just like we did in 1898, when "cuban terrorists" blew up the USS Maine in Havana Harbor.

Yup, it's always best to shoot first, and ask questions later.

Sheesh, people. Let's figure out the situation before we return fire, already.

:eyes:
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Mike Daniels Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-05 10:17 AM
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58. Actual thread title should be: DU'ers have knee jerk response to joke
Nothing else to say.
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demwing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-05 10:26 AM
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59. Do you mean YOU have nothing else to say?
Or that there is nothing more worthwhile to say about this subject?
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tngledwebb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-05 10:52 AM
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64. You might be having a knee jerk response too,
just the other way. This is what discussions forums are for- shooting the s**t, going on our gut instincts like the boy king Shrubby does. You know, its never exactly been the Oxford Debating Society around here, has it?
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Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-05 10:27 AM
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60. This is unacceptable coming from anyone...
...even if Moore 'laughed it off'.

Eastwood is either suffering from mad cow or he's just another crazy Republican.
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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-05 10:31 AM
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61. its funny when actors
forget that they are not the characters they portray. Clint can shove his 44 magnum up his monkey ass.
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madison2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-05 11:01 AM
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65. Sounds like a Republican, not like an artist n/t
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lavenderdiva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-05 11:08 AM
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66. I believe I read when Moore's movie about Columbine High School
Edited on Fri Jan-14-05 11:12 AM by lavenderdiva
came out, that he himself is a qualified sharpshooter. Wonder if Clint is aware of that fact?

'Lest you think this is simply an attack on the NRA, Mr. Moore was a junior champion sharpshooter and is still a lifetime member of the organization.'

quote from: http://home.earthlink.net/~bubakar/bowlingforcolumbine.html

no wonder Moore laughed off Clint's comments...
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-05 11:22 AM
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67. Your Thread Title Is Inflammatory & Misleading- JUST LIKE FOX.
Congratulations.

The article title says Clint threatens Moore.

It goes on to recount:

During Award ceremony where BOTH men were present, Clint told Mike if he ever showed up at HIS door w/ camera he'd kill him. Moore laughed.

OBVIOUSLY a joke and not a death threat.
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Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-05 12:21 PM
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71. The coarsening of our society continues...
...when someone can 'joke' about killing their adversaries and people actually defend this crap.

Is it any wonder that the US has the highest homocide rate in the industrialized world?
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-19-05 03:29 AM
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76. Its good, clean fun!
I actually laughed when I read the full context.

Not w/ ya on this one, big guy!
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democracyindanger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-05 07:21 PM
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73. Fish.
I can't believe people are still getting on their high horses and wailing about how evil Eastwood must be, and that he's a right winger, blah blah blah.

Drudge started it. You bought it. Like fish on a line.

Incredible. Just...incredible.
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montana500 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-05 08:16 PM
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74. obviously it's a joke
Eastwood was doing a parody on the nutcases like Hannity and Savage.
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Celeborn Skywalker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-19-05 03:26 AM
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75. Seems like a joke
I don't know though, maybe Clint is a psychopath.
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