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Tue Jan-20-04 05:13 PM
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Limbaugh Thinks Edwards Can Beat Bush |
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I looked through the threads till about noon and I didn't see a thread on this subject.
While I was on my lunch break today, I flipped over to oxyrush's show to see what the con perspective was on Iowa.
To my amazement, and honest to God, I heard our druggy friend on the right admitting that Bush could loose to Edwards. This is the first time I have heard anything except the mythical "landslide" come out of his mouth. He sounded very depressed, and said he was running a "JFK" type campaign, and that he was like "Bill Clinton without the baggage"
This was very encouring to me, to see the righties disalusioned at this early stage of the race. I had honestly heard very little about Edwards until his strong finish yesterday in Iowa, and had for the most part dismissed him as a major candidate.
To this I say good luck to Edwards, and whoever is the nominee has their work cut out for them.
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Tue Jan-20-04 05:14 PM
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1. Why the hell would he say that?? nt |
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Tue Jan-20-04 05:16 PM
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He just had his Oxycontin prescription refilled...
I hear it messes with the mind.
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Tue Jan-20-04 05:16 PM
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6. Because his future ratings depend on a Democrat in the WH |
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Rush needs a Democrat in the WH. He is all about the money/ratings. He can't keep his right wing hate group focused without a target. Rush ratings are tanking and the cure is a Democrat in the White House.
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Tue Jan-20-04 05:20 PM
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12. Bingo, an excellent point |
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Secretly, he is hoping for a Democrat winning, because God knows he'll still be rich, and he'll have something to bitch about and get ratings up again.
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Tue Jan-20-04 10:17 PM
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57. exactly! without Clinton to hate, they have nothing |
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Look, the GOP runs every branch of government, and look what a disaster it's been!
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Tue Jan-20-04 05:29 PM
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19. I'm sorry. You're believing him? |
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This paragon of honesty? You're buying this spit?
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Wed Jan-21-04 01:24 AM
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62. No, I'm not. That's why I asked WHY would he say that? nt |
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Tue Jan-20-04 06:17 PM
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38. Why??? For once rush tells the truth. |
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Edwards can indeed beat bush. And so can Clark and Dean...
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Tue Jan-20-04 09:42 PM
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55. Maybe because after Dean, Edwards is the weakest on |
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Wed Jan-21-04 12:08 AM
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58. To boost one of our least formidable candidates. |
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If they can't get Dean, they'd like Edwards. IMO. I like Edwards (tho' cant forgive his IWR/Patriot Act votes), but he doesn't have Clark's toughness. Or even Kerry's.
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Tue Jan-20-04 05:15 PM
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2. I've heard the "Bill Clinton without the baggage" phrase before |
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Who knows? Still, it's interesting to see Rush say it.
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Tue Jan-20-04 05:33 PM
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22. Okay, now I know he's lying. |
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Because Bill Clinton's baggage was a gift to them. They looked for anything else but sex was all they could find. And even then they desperately tried to make it rape, serial rape.
Rush thinks he's the weakest of the high number guys still left.
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Tue Jan-20-04 05:16 PM
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4. Limbaugh is up to something. |
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If he's deviating from his usual hype, he's either got an ace up his sleeve or a knife in his boot. I wouldn't take anything that he's saying at its face value.
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Tue Jan-20-04 05:16 PM
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5. I about fainted yesterday when Scarborough |
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was saying how great Edwards was. Makes you go hummmm.
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Tue Jan-20-04 05:21 PM
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He said "Republicans should be afraid of Edwards".
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Tue Jan-20-04 05:36 PM
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23. Makes you go, ooooooh, the blastfax is working. |
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Create interest in the weakest of the strong ones.
This one they're sure they can beat in a walk.
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Tue Jan-20-04 06:21 PM
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42. Tucker Carlson was also complimenting him a lot |
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Talking about what a great personality Edwards has, especially one on one. Hmm... I guess Edwards is definately not as polarizing as some of the other candidates.
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Tue Jan-20-04 05:17 PM
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7. Funny, other Rethugs are saying the same now. Like Joe Scarborough. |
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Edited on Tue Jan-20-04 05:18 PM by blm
I think they don't want to be beaten by the AWOLSTICK.
Remember how Rush's anal cyst deferment came out? After he attacked Kerry's patriotism. heheh....
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Tue Jan-20-04 05:18 PM
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8. Of Course Rush Would Say That |
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Tue Jan-20-04 05:18 PM
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9. Ruh, Roh. That can't be good for John. |
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I wonder what they have up their sleeves?
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Tue Jan-20-04 05:18 PM
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10. Today in class, something weird happened about Edwards |
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Edited on Tue Jan-20-04 05:19 PM by sgr2
We were discussing all of the candidates, and this Republican girl in the back of the room (I know her, always defends Bush) said, drumroll please:
If the Dems nominate Edwards I would vote for him over Bush.
I was like, WHAT?????
She said the following:
1. He's very good looking 2. He's a great speaker, and it's refreshing to hear a Democrat with a positive message 3. He's a self-made man
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Tue Jan-20-04 05:21 PM
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14. But will she support him after they "Rove" him? |
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Tue Jan-20-04 05:30 PM
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And they have very little to Rove him with.
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Tue Jan-20-04 05:47 PM
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31. She'll be pissed they went negative on a guy who's so positive. |
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Tue Jan-20-04 05:40 PM
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25. "He's very good looking"???????????? |
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I do not like this focus. She ALWAYS was pro-Bush? No tenuous signs of disillusion?
Oh, goody. The campaign is paying college students to spread disinformation.
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Tue Jan-20-04 06:20 PM
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41. You think this sort of thing doesn't matter in the election??? |
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Are you serious??? The 15% apolitical voters inh the center vote for exactly this sort of superficial reason. In this TV age, someone ugly couldn't possibly be elected prez, no matter what they say or stand for.
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Tue Jan-20-04 07:05 PM
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That seems interesting since George W Bush is the antithesis of a self made man.
I seriously think that the Republicans are pumping up Edwards for a reason. We heard this from Ben Stein on Caucus night. You know they will go after him for being a trial lawyer.
I dunno, something is fishie.
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Tue Jan-20-04 09:12 PM
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52. No, she's just some 22 yr old college girl |
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It's not some sort of conspiracy, she's a political science major so she pays attention to what's going on. You'd be surprised how many moderate Republicans will vote Dem if provided with someone who doesn't scare them or presents a good image.
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Tue Jan-20-04 05:19 PM
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11. I would be very suspect of anything that Rush says that might be |
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good for the Democrats!!!!
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Tue Jan-20-04 05:21 PM
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13. Rush also says he's done nothing wrong....legally speaking. |
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Tue Jan-20-04 05:23 PM
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16. Sounds like Rush will be heading back to rehab soon. |
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Edwards beat bush? A pro-war dem who claims that he doesn't like the war he helped start against a pro-war halfwit. Yeah right. Not unless over half the electorate start hitting the oxycontin.
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Tue Jan-20-04 05:24 PM
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I believe nothing he says. TURN IT OFF
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Tue Jan-20-04 05:28 PM
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Tell me that is a misprint. Limpballs spouts. Limpballs pontificates. Limpballs rants. Limpballs sneers. Limpballs lies. One thing he doesn't do is think. Why does anyone here care what he says?
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Tue Jan-20-04 05:32 PM
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21. So now Rove wants to run against Edwards? |
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Tue Jan-20-04 05:44 PM
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28. I don't think Rove is happy at the current "toss up" field |
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the GOP just doesn't know where to direct the attacks!
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Tue Jan-20-04 06:22 PM
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44. Sounds like the 'brar' patch fable to me. |
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I imagine the very LAST Dem Rove wants to run against is John Edwards.
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Tue Jan-20-04 05:39 PM
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24. Limbaugh's sand bagging. |
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They are gearing up to run against Edwards as money grubbing trial attorney.
I in no way agree with the assessment but that has got to be their plan.
I'm hoping that Edwards will make a great VP to Kerry.
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Tue Jan-20-04 05:43 PM
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27. Edwards will eviscerate them on the "trial lawyer" issue |
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The rethugs tried it in '98 and Edwards beat them over the head with it.
Remember, he worked for people, not corporations.
And he has former clients who are more than happy to vouch for him.
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Tue Jan-20-04 05:48 PM
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33. he was losing UNTIL they brought up the trial lawyer thing! |
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Tue Jan-20-04 06:15 PM
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37. You had better hope that none of the companies that he sued in his |
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career ever went out of business and put people out of work.
I can see the commercial right now.
Pan a beautiful, expensive house that is currently owned by one of Edwards' former clients. Then interview poor ol' Goober who is living in a run down shack, collecting food stamps and aluminum cans to make ends meet all because mean old John Edwards closed down the plant and put some poor dad out of work.
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Tue Jan-20-04 06:22 PM
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43. The instate corp -- the hospital -- changed policies and treated nurses |
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better as a result. It saved lives.
The out of state corp (the trucking company) got the Republican legislature to change the law to protect them from the liability Edwards's trial court decision threatened to impose on them. NC'inians should be pissed. The rest of America should think that any company that benefitted from that sort of Republican protectionism SHOULD be out of business.
The out of state swimming pool pump company should have gone to JAIL. They're lucky to still be in business.
As for the insurance companies who were the parties who really covered these damages, the Bush family and Republicans have allowed them to have the best years of their lives in the 20 years Edwards has worked against them. They're fucking loaded and run the government. That's why Edwards is running for president.
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Tue Jan-20-04 05:44 PM
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29. What freaked me out about it was, |
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that he said something to the effect, that yeah, he was a trial lawyer and whatnot, but a lot of people see that as "sticking up for the little guy" And how there's really nothing to hit him hard with.
Im just wondering what his ulterior motive was today.
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Tue Jan-20-04 05:45 PM
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30. I have two extreme right wing relatives. Both like Edwards. |
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One said he would donate some money to the campaign.
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Tue Jan-20-04 05:48 PM
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32. One of his major targets of hatred, the ACLU, is helping him, and |
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he's seen the light??
:shrug:
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Tue Jan-20-04 05:53 PM
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34. JRE better watch out. Rush 'n' Rove will probably |
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be paying 16 year old girls, drug pushers, etc., to compromise him. And I'm sure they have a few tricks up their sleeve for Clark, Kerry, and everyone else.
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Tue Jan-20-04 05:55 PM
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35. The Dean trial baloon has floated to the ground. They have to be realistic |
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...and it's true. Everywhere I turn, people are talking about considering Edwards -- people on the right, people on the far left.
Rush is letting people know: if you really love Bush, he's going to lose to Edwards.
I'm sure his own audience is wondering why they should hate Edwards. It can't be obvious. His demographic is the working class. Those are the people Edwards has helped all his life.
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Tue Jan-20-04 06:04 PM
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36. The GOP talkers are the GOP's "tell" |
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Rush bashes Clark, nice to Edwards Scarlborogh bashes Clark, nice to Dean and Edwards Tweety bashes Clark, nice to Dean Dole nice to everybody except Clark
It's good to see people catching on to what some of us have been noticing for months.
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Tue Jan-20-04 06:18 PM
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39. Even a broken clock syndrome... |
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I think they know that Edwards is squeaky clean and has a background that resonates with people. Remember, some Democrats voted for Reagan because he was "likable". That was supposedly dumbya's strength too-- but what happens if they have to run against someone _more_likable.
Sometimes cowards like Rush and Scarborough will accidentally voice their fears. Roveco wants Edwards LEAST of all...
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Tue Jan-20-04 06:19 PM
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40. Edwards is young, attractive, and the "son of a mill worker" |
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Theres no way that Bush would win if he had to go against Edwards.
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Tue Jan-20-04 07:01 PM
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45. I'm sure the point's already been made, but... |
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isn't it obvious what Big L's doing? The handwriting's on the wall for Dean - he's history. Who is the next weakest candidate? Who isn't Wesley Clark - the nominee the pugs are most concerned about?
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61. Exactly my take on it. Edwards it their second choice for Bush to |
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Tue Jan-20-04 07:03 PM
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46. I've been telling you guys this for months |
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and telling you why and now limbaugh is coopting my material ?
figures...
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Tue Jan-20-04 07:48 PM
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48. They can all beat Bush |
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Limpballs just doubled up on his Oxy today. Probably in fear of Kerry kicking Chimp's ass in November, but any of the candidates can beat the Crawford Cretin.
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Tue Jan-20-04 07:51 PM
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49. Newsflash: Limbaugh is a Drug Addict |
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Tue Jan-20-04 08:49 PM
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50. I'm afraid you only happened.......... |
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to hear part of his story today. As rush often does he will give a half hearted compliment to a lib, only to turn around and squash the lib a few moments later. Trust me here. He never,ever says anything good about us at all. He is not to be trusted. Pretend you never heard one word from him. He is the Devil:evilfrown: !
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Tue Jan-20-04 08:57 PM
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51. Headlong Rush To Republican Defeat (Hee!, Hee!, Hee!) |
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I confess that after nearly twenty years of institutionalized Republican Party nastiness, I'd be more than happy to follow up a Democratic presidential victory in 2004 with gloating faxes to the (Poo-Poo)In Broadcasting network marking Dubya's defeat, with similar follow-up faxes and e-mails to Whirled Nertz Daffy's Dow Jones affiliate. :evilgrin:
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Tue Jan-20-04 09:18 PM
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53. Limbaugh is an entertainer |
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Limbaugh is an entertainer, though a dangerous one. I think he was actually speaking as an entertainer. He knows that Bush did as well as he did last election only because of perceived likeability and celebrity (he looks alot like his father), and he knows that Edwards is more likeable.
Why he would tell his public this, I don't know except to focus them on the new "threat."
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Tue Jan-20-04 09:24 PM
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54. Let's let Rush pick the nominee! |
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Do you know how to tell if Rush is lying? If you can hear him, he's lying.
He is a big fat idiot, lying liar.
This is no slight to Edwards, who I sincerely believe could beat Bush. I happen to believe that Kerry, Dean and Clark could also.
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Tue Jan-20-04 10:15 PM
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56. OxyRush has better ratings when DEMS are in power... |
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...so he could really care less, one way or the other- I dont find him too sincere about anything...
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Wed Jan-21-04 12:46 AM
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60. Don't Play Poker With Rush Limbaugh |
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This is the second warning in my "Don't Play Poker With . . . " series.
Don't play poker with Rush Limbaugh, he keeps showing his cards and losing. You feel guilty about taking his money.
Need political advice from the opposing party? Ask Rush Limbaugh, he'll never steer you wrong. Oh yeah, su-u-u-ure.
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One thing I've noticed is that, even here- a bastion of liberalism- there is a lot of antipathy towards lawyers. As a law student, I personally do not understand it, but there is no denying that even many self-proclaimed liberals are blinded by their hatred of people with the nerve to pass the bar. It is to the point that it makes this place unpleasant to visit sometimes.
I think Rush realizes this.
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Wed Jan-21-04 02:07 AM
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64. I really liked Edwards and Gep right from the beginning...then |
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I sided with Kucinich. I like Kucinich still; I think Edwards and Kucinich are both about the People, so whichever of these two begin to climb in upcoming caucuses and primaries etc I will support. 'Of the People, by the People, for the People...'
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