Okay, Who Did It???

[ChiciB1]

Someone is saying Abraham Lincoln MIGHT have been GAY!

Lawdy, Lawdy... WHAT will THEY do, if THIS one is confirmed????

Tear down the Lincoln Memorial?????

[Dookus]

1. It's old news

Abe evidently shared a room (and presumably a bed) with another man for a few years in his early adulthood. It wasn't a terribly unusual situation back then, though.

There's a new book out that offers some new evidence but it's hardly conclusive.

[TexasSissy]

7. Yes, this has been speculated about for years.

They were travelling and staying somewhere. The two men ended up sharing a bed. Some say it wasn't unusual for back then, esp. if there weren't two beds. Others say it's fishy.

Guess we'll never know. But he wasn't GAY gay. AT most he would've been bisexual, I would think, since he was married for years and had several children (presumably he liked having sex with women). And there are writings by him indicating a deep love for a woman before Mary Todd, but she married someone else.

[MissMarple]

9. Sharing beds was quite common then, and they became close friends.

http://archive.salon.com/books/it/1999/04/30/lincoln/

It is often difficult to understand the past through the eyes of the present.

"The strikingly handsome 23-year-old merchant took pity on the man and invited him into his own bed, free of charge, which happened to be just upstairs. The traveler inspected the bed and, looking into the merchant's sparkling blue eyes, agreed on the spot. For the next four years the two men shared that bed along with their most private fears and desires.

If this sounds like the opening of a homoerotic dime-store novel whose subsequent scenes feature fiery loins and ecstatic eruptions, hold your panting. The year is 1837, the place Springfield, Ill., and the leading men none other than our 16th president, Abraham Lincoln, and his lifelong friend Joshua Speed.

It is a story that historians have told and retold, puzzled over and reinterpreted, dismissed and decorated. Some describe Lincoln's acceptance of Joshua Speed's generous offer as terse and matter-of-fact; others as beaming and emotional. What none of them questions is that Lincoln and Speed's years of living together cemented a friendship unparalleled in its intimacy and tenderness in Lincoln's life. So far, all major historians have stopped short of intimating that Lincoln was ever involved in a romantic affair with a man -- in fact, they explicitly discourage such interpretations."

[ooglymoogly]

11. sharing a bed out of convenience here and there in 1857 is

one thing; sharing a bed with a friend for two years is quite another.

[KittyWampus]

19. Beds Were A Luxury? Did You See Prairie House? Anyway, I Own A B&B

and have had many beds shared by 2 women who just wanted to save money. Also a few guys (but not very many).

[Ian David]

2. Have you read about Mary Todd Lincoln?

If I was married to her, I would have SAID I was gay just to have an excuse to sleep in my own bedroom. That way, the Secret Service would be able to keep her from killing me in my sleep.

[elehhhhna]

4. Like Abe was George Clooney. Please.

[Lostnote03]

8. Wasn't Mary Todd a conspiracy theorist wrt the official explanation....

....surrounding Abes assasination

[Walt Starr]

3. That's why they call themselves "Log Cabin Republicans"

Ancient history.

[ChiciB1]

5. Well, Walt... Finally

KUDOS! And that DOES make a lot of sense. But do the IDIOT followers KNOW???

[McKenzie]

6. sigh...

I find it sad that people have to be judged on the basis of their sexuality. Heteros have been responsible for some seriously bad shit so maybe we should comment on the inter-relationship bewteen heteros and shitty events. Anyone who believes that sexuality has ANYTHING to do with competence, or judgement, has their head up their backside.

This is nothing more than a diversion from the real issues. If I was asked which was more obscene, people doing what they want on a consensual basis or bombing women and kids, I know which of the two I'd regard as deviant.

BTW, I'm a non-practising hetero.

edit: speled rong...agen

[ooglymoogly]

10. who the hell gives a flying fk

he was a great man who in my opinion would have supported gay rights.
he was not a hypocrite like the pugs of today who are about as close to lincoln republicans as hitler was to jesus. imnsho

[ChiciB1]

12. Never Said He Wasn't

Gays, Lesbians, Lincoln... I was just wondering how many "red-staters" heard this, and then it made me LAUGH!

I HOPE he was!

[ooglymoogly]

14. ever heard of gaydar

[Stinky The Clown]

13. When I read your post's title I was ready to answer a more normal question

one I often hear: "Who farted?"

[ChiciB1]

16. Gee, Sorry I Wasn't Using My Beaner!

That good enough???? I couldn't help myself, it's been one of those days. I'd bet real good money on the fact the MOST people don't know the rumors, and especially the REPUKES!

I guess I was just being a little facetious and besides it DID make me laugh. Use your imagination.

[KittyWampus]

20. Funny! Never Seen A Farting Smiley!

[ooglymoogly]

15. who did it, who did it,, who stole the strawberries

capin queeg

[Kat45]

17. It is old news, but they were talking about it on the news the other day.

I didn't catch it all, so I'm not sure what prompted it to be brought up.

[proud2BlibKansan]

18. Check out this link

http://www.logcabin.org/logcabin/home.html