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Sat Jan-15-05 04:23 PM
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http://www.dailykos.com/story/2005/1/15/153355/351mp3...I am listening to it now. He says in taking Jerome on board, he took the strongest voice for Dean off the web. Jerome closed down MyDD while he worked for Dean. Much more.
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Sat Jan-15-05 04:28 PM
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1. Pls. Keep these post coming. |
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This thing is an even better lesson on how democratic campaigns are run than the Washington monthly article.
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madfloridian
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Sat Jan-15-05 04:31 PM
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3. I am doing for honest journalism. |
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Not for you, not for reforming campaigns......for honest journalism.
Reforming campaigns won't matter until we get some media.
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Sat Jan-15-05 04:31 PM
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2. Kos is wasting all his time defending himself |
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meanwhile the Armstrong Williams issue goes to the back burner and no one is trying to investigate how wide the payola issue is.
GOPers win because they never defend, they always are on the attack. They did not defend Williams, they went on the attack and starting spreading the poop around on blogs.
Never waste time defending against GOPers and MSM, attack.
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Sat Jan-15-05 05:18 PM
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We have the MUCH better case, anyway.
This was the PRESIDENT that did this.
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madfloridian
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Sat Jan-15-05 05:26 PM
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8. They said to let the swiftboat thing go, too. |
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And look what happened. The WSJ has two links up to a dead story. It is perpetuating.
I don't think it should be let go.
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Sat Jan-15-05 05:28 PM
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Our leadership is just bullshit. They're fucking amateurs.
I'm so sick of this.
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Sat Jan-15-05 04:56 PM
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4. Thune paid 2 South Dakotan bloggers $35,000 |
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to shill for him, neither of whom apprised their readers that they were on the take. I don't recall rightwing pundits getting the collective vapors when that was revealed over a month ago.
If it wasn't before, it's pretty clear now the only value in the DailyKos brouhaha is its proximity to the Williams story and the lifeline it extends to the likes of Novak, who's able to happily finesse the Education Dept's quarter million dollar bribe.
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Sat Jan-15-05 05:14 PM
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5. What else is he saying? C'mon - share! lol |
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Sat Jan-15-05 05:25 PM
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7. I had to go out, so have not finished it. Here is a summary. |
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http://www.mydd.com/story/2005/1/15/161017/816I did not get to the part where Mathew Gross speaks, but I will later. There is a summary of what was said here. SNIP..." Regarding the suggestion that is still swirling around the blogosphere regarding the role that Markos and Jerome played on the Dean campaign: Laura Gross (no relation) is 100% correct when she says: hese guys were hired as technical consultants. Specifically, they helped the Web team pick a technology platform for the blog (Movable Type) and helped manage Internet advertising (banner ads, Google ads, etc.). They weren't paid to write content -- either for the campaign or on their own blogs. And just in case there was any ambiguity, the campaign made sure they had a notice saying "I am a paid consultant for Howard Dean" right smack on the front of their personal blogs.
As for the accusation that we had any other "internal goal": As is well known, I was the Director of Internet Communications and "Blogger in Chief" for the Dean campaign. To my knowledge, there was never any internal expectation that either Markos or Jerome would provide anything other than technical or advertising advice or services, and those were the only services they did provide."
I frankly thought Trippi was not good at making points, but Dave Winer was rather antagonistic to be blunt. This link seems to summarize pretty well.
Trippi made one point I liked. He said they were the first campaign to allow bloggers on the campaign plane, the big one. He said they were entering new territory. I have trouble listening to him now, but I will try to finish it.
One poster at the site I linked said the WSJ and others are "swiftboating Dean"....WSJ, though they know their reporter has said this to DFA, has links to two articles about it....just perpetuating it.
I think DFA may have to attack this formally, maybe.
Here is summary from Jerome about what he did for the campaign, which is well known anyway...it is sickening this is going on.
SNIP.." And to even further clarify, I directed and managed all of the online advertising campaigns and expenditures for DFA. The "technical consulting" that Markos did for the campaign included building out the ForumForAmerica.com website, which Murshed Zaheed managed; Markos was to build out the 50 state websites through MT, but Zephyr decided we should build them by developing Drupal's platform from the groundup instead (so only a few wound up actually happening); and after migrating DailyKos.com onto Scoop from MT, he proposed that BFA be migrated onto Scoop under his advice, but some on the webteam (not I) feared that Scoop couldn't scale. ha!
What's left of this now? The accusations of Zephyr Teachout did not pan out, neither were they ever confirmed, and now have been contraditcted by the person who hired us, Joe Trippi, and the Blogger in Chief of the Dean Campaign, Mathew Gross."
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Sat Jan-15-05 06:23 PM
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But these "stories" are total BS on a level that is approaching the Smear Boat Veterans...I usually try not to let ignorance get me emotional, but c'mon folks, this is sheer idiocy.
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Sat Jan-15-05 06:33 PM
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11. Great. Now I know there's a story there. |
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Hadn't even been following the thing but the mad leaps to denounce this 'idiocy' are interesting indeed!
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