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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-15-05 08:54 PM
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Can you guys explain to me DNC for Dummies
as well as DLC for Dummies?

Thanks in advance.
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smiley_glad_hands Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-15-05 09:03 PM
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1. I'll try
Edited on Sat Jan-15-05 09:03 PM by smiley_glad_hands
DNC=Democratic National Committe; official governing body of the Democratic National Party

DLC=Democratic Leadership Coucil; group of pro corporate/free trade elected and unelected democrats that have no offical relationship to the party. They are just a media pipe for centrist ideals, ie: the Clinton wing of the democratic party. He is/or was a member.
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OrwellwasRight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-15-05 09:14 PM
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2. I'll start.
The DNC is the "official" party organization. When its chair (currently Terry McAuliffe--don't get me started) speaks, s/he is speaking for the party. The DNC can spend money on its own for ads and party building activities, and under the BCRA-law, which I know very little about, money cannot go directly to presidential campaigns in the last 30 days before a presidential election although it can go to the DNC, which can spend it on campaign related activities.

There are 447 "members" of the DNC who have voting privileges in choosing the chair (which implies that there are members who lack this voting privilege).

Lots more details here:

http://www.dkosopedia.com/index.php/Democratic_National_Commmittee

The Democratic Leadership Committee is not the "official" anything of the party, but rather a caucus or think tank type organization. Its goal is to produce centrist, "neo-liberal" politicians and policies. It is discussed frequently because Clinton was a DLC product, so the DLC is very influential (i.e., it keeps boasting that it is the only wing of the party that can produce a winning presidential candidate, and many Dems believe that). I personally think the DLC is destroying the party because it is drawing us to Repub positions, forever moving the fabled political "center" further and further to the right.

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Tinoire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-15-05 10:46 PM
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3. For you... Anything
DNC was already explained. DLC is a right-wing takeover of the Democratic party. Think of little Lieberman clones running all over the place. He's a founder of both the DLC and the New Democrats (both the exact same movement, but the NDN/NDOL is trying to pretend they're not related). They push for anything the corporations want and pushed for this war. To this day, they are still saying the war in Iraq was a good idea.

Read this thread afterwards and shiver: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x1440617

Jesse Jackson calls the DLC, "Democrats for the Leisure Class".
Wellstone called them "forces within the Democratic Party who want us to sound like kinder, gentler Republicans".

You have the neo-conservatives and their PNAC who have hijacked the Republican party.

then you have the neo-Liberals and their PPI who are so closely allied with the DLC (Democratic Leadership Council) that they make joint announcements on their appointments.

There's a real rotating door between those two. They have hijacked the Democratic Party.

PNAC and PPI are both pretty much the same. http://rightweb.irc-online.org/org/ppi.php

The Lay of the Land for you & background info here: http://www.garlicandgrass.org/issue5/intro.cfm

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Behind the DLC Takeover
By John Nichols

At the national convention of a major political party, an ideologically rigid sectarian clique secures the ultimate triumph. It inserts two of its own as nominees for the Presidency and the Vice Presidency. Heavily financed by the most powerful corporations in the world, the group's leaders gather in a private club fifty-four floors above the convention hall, apart from the delegates of the party they had infiltrated. There, they carefully monitor the convention's acceptance of a platform the organization had drafted almost in its entirety. Then, with the ticket secured and with the policy course of the party set, they introduce a team of 100 shock troops to deploy across the country to lock up the party's grassroots.

This is not some fantastic political thriller starring Harrison Ford or Sharon Stone. This is the real-life version of Invasion of the Party Snatchers--with the Democratic Leadership Council (DLC) burrowing into the pod that is the Democratic Party.

Founded in the mid-1980s with essentially the same purpose as the Christian Coalition--to pull a broad political party dramatically to the right--the DLC has been far more successful than its headline-grabbing Republican counterpart. After Walter Mondale's 1984 defeat at the hands of Ronald Reagan, a group of mostly Southern, conservative Democrats hatched the theory that their party was in trouble because it had grown too sympathetic to the agendas of organized labor, feminists, African Americans, Latinos, gays and lesbians, peace activists, and egalitarians.

And they found willing corporate allies, in corporate America, who provided the money needed to make a theory appear to be a movement. In the ensuing fifteen years, the DLC's impact on the American political debate has been dramatic. The group now controls much of the upper-level apparatus of the Democratic Party.

(snip)

Those corporate contributors--whose names fill the lists of givers to the DLC and a closely linked political arm, the New Democrat Network--include Bank One, Citigroup, Dow Chemical, DuPont, General Electric, the Health Insurance Corporation of America, Merrill Lynch, Microsoft, Morgan Stanley, the National Association of Mortgage Brokers, Occidental Petroleum, Raytheon, and much of the rest of the Fortune 500.

(snip)

http://www.progressive.org/nich1000.htm

If you need more. I have PLENTY more and so do other DUers. Eloriel is a tremendous resort on this.
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