What constitutes a victory ?

[kentuck]

Listening to a short excerpt of Tim Russert asking Robin Wright how can we "win" in Iraq? She said we simply change the way we define "winning". So short of a cataclysmic catastrophe on a worldwide scale, no matter what happens in Iraq, it will be called a "victory".

No matter if we kill 200,000 Iraqis. No matter if we lose 2,000 of our own troops. No matter if the Shiites take over and form a theocratic government. It is all a victory.

Unfortunately, the present circumstances must change before we can declare anything. At present, it is an undefinable disaster. We have no idea the destrutive force we have unleashed upon the world. We have no idea when we will be able to withdraw, if ever. We have no idea how the future of Iraq will look.

If everything is a victory, then nothing is a failure. That is the new Bushworld. No matter how much they have screwed up the war in Iraq, the economy, foreign relations, our fiscal stability, it is not a failure. It is all a victory. Don't worry, be happy.

[BlueEyedSon]

1. Just like Vietnam: Declare victory and come home. nt

[DELUSIONAL]

2. People have be lied to so many times

and the truth has been twisted -- night is day, day is night, up is down, white is black, green is red and death is victory.

The bush gang has come up with 26 different reasons why the US invaded Iraq -- and all of the reasons are lies.

Can the US just leave -- like they did in Vietnam? Can the US stay?

If there is a way to screw up in Iraq -- the US has done it. Apparently the jerks running the show in Iraq are living in a fantasy land -- and there is no real reporting to the American people.

Everything is fine -- just a few loud noises. Oh people die -- just like people die in the big cities in the US -- nothing to worry about.

Even if the US military left -- US non political aid agencies couldn't move in to help organize the mess that the military has left behind.

Fallujah will be a monument to Der Bushita -- this will be his legacy. And any other Iraqi (or Syrian, or Iranian) city that he orders destroyed -- on a whim.