Face the Nation : Ted Kennedy

[rockedthevoteinMA]

This Administration makes a crisis out of any political issue.

He's kicking *ss!

[XanaDUer]

1. He is!

GO TED!

[rockedthevoteinMA]

2. I love it - he's calling them on their BS on Social Security -

He's my Senator :)

[MSgt213]

3. Those two clowns on with him are supposed to be journalist? What the fuck

trying to put words in Kennedy's mouth and asking questions like they are framed from the RNC.

[rockedthevoteinMA]

4. WOOHOO Leaning against Gonzalez!

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WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS TORTURE!! This nominee is the principal architecht for torture!!

[marcologico]

5. teaser: "last of the red-hot liberals," LMAO. Thanks for the headsup n/t

[marcologico]

6. Iraq: "blunder after blunder," "George Bush's Vietnam"

Social Security: another manufactured crisis, the administration is using it like a piggy bank.

Looking to the future: Americans should be guaranteed national security and economic prosperity, and this adminstration can't promise either.

...and he's just getting started!

[zulchzulu]

7. Uncle Teddy is a stud

I wish he was on more often. If it was a baseball game, every one of his responses was either a triple or a home run.

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[Dr Fate]

9. Did he?

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[marcologico]

11. guys in case you missed it, rest assured: THE LION ROARED.

Everything you keep claiming Dems don't stand for, he stood for. Basically shoring up the New Deal and getting the hell out of Iraq, which was also Kerry's message. So why is everybody hating on Kerry? I have yet to hear Dean propose ANY policy except where to send the check!

[Q]

12. It wasn't Kerry's position to 'get the hell out of Iraq'...

...it was staying the course while pretending to bring 'democracy' to the people being slaughtered.

Kennedy is one of the few remaining liberals in the party who refuses to run away from the label. That's one of the reasons the New Democrats hate him so much. They want nothing to do with the 'new deal' and not only want to stay in Iraq...but expand the war to other regions in the ME.

[welshTerrier2]

13. clarify please

i agree that Dean has not called for U.S. withdrawal from Iraq ... and it's about time he did !!!

mega-Kudos to Kennedy who's been right on Iraq from day one ... but why are you saying that was Kerry's message too? do you have a source for that?

[marcologico]

14. Sure. Kerry on Iraq: "Wrong War, Wrong Place, Wrong Time," 9/6/04

Kerry on Iraq: 'Wrong War, Wrong Place, Wrong Time'
Reuters
Monday 06 September 2004

CANONSBURG, Pa. - Democratic presidential nominee John Kerry on Monday called the invasion of Iraq "the wrong war in the wrong place at the wrong time" and said his goal was to withdraw U.S. troops in a first White House term.

--snip--

In Racine, West Virginia, Kerry assailed Bush's record, repeatedly telling a Labor Day rally the "W" in Bush's name stood for "wrong - wrong choices, wrong judgment, wrong priorities, wrong direction for our country" on everything from jobs to Iraq.

full article: http://www.truthout.org/docs_04/090804Z.shtml

[welshTerrier2]

15. well, yeah, but ....

to say Kerry's position was the same as Kennedy's is just not right ...

withdrawing during a first White House term was nothing but a plan to pursue a military solution there ... and Kerry's statements, and his vote, on IWR were very different than Kennedy's ...

Kerry, like Dean, has never said we can't succeed in Iraq ... Kerry's "first term" plan was to CONTINUE THE "WAR" ... he called for more involvement by other countries; he criticized how bush handled Iraq; but he did say the crisis could not be resolved militarily ...

i hope he does soon ... we need him; we need Dean; we need every Democrat to put an end to bush's perpetual "war" ...

[marcologico]

17. How to get out is the $24,000 question.

As far as I can tell Kerry and Dean had exactly the same position, which was to increase immediate support for the troops, who were getting shot to pieces last fall, and begin a withdrawal as soon as the country could be handed over to an international peace-keeping force. Kennedy didn't say that this morning because he didn't allow himself to get pinned down.

[dolstein]

16. I don't see how having Ted Kennedy go out and attack the President

actually wins the Democrats any converts on the social security issue.

[marcologico]

18. He was drawing a line in the sand, as in, "we're not rolling over" nt

[Dr Fate]

19. Ignoring the truth about Bush's credibility gap wins us no converts.

All DEMS, not just Ted, need to tell the truth about Bush on a daily basis- LOUDLY and forcefully.

Telling the truth about Bush's pattern of dishonesty & bad decisions is NEVER a bad strategy.

[mbee]

20. He should have said they create a crisis with everything they touch!

Of course they plan it that way.

[marcologico]

21. that is EXACTLY what he said!

no kidding!

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