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quaoar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-16-05 01:15 PM
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WTF? One of Bush's best friends is a Democrat???
His name is Roland Betts, he says he's a Democrat, went to Yale with Bush, one of the founders of Chelsea Piers in New York, persuaded Bush to have the Republican Convention in New York, taught public school in Harlem, has an interracial marriage, has financed several movies, etc.

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/01/14/politics/14betts.html?ex=1263358800&en=ba3a828ca99bc31a&ei=5090&partner=rssuserland

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Clearly, Mr. Betts is not the person to go to for an unvarnished view of the president, and he invariably describes a more thoughtful and curious chief executive than Mr. Bush's public image suggests.

"He asks me a lot of questions," Mr. Betts said. "As we're going for walks, he wants to know, 'Well, who do you think would be good here, and what should I do here?' "

Before the war with Iraq, Mr. Betts said Mr. Bush frequently asked him, "As a citizen, what do you think here? Do you think the case is adequately made?" Mr. Betts said that he often responded no, but that by the eve of the invasion he had said yes.

At the same time, Mr. Betts describes a president more concerned than he lets on about the perception among some critics that Vice President Dick Cheney is running the country. When Mr. Bush spoke to the commission investigating the attacks of Sept. 11, Mr. Betts said that the president took along Mr. Cheney not to present a consistent story but to show the panel that Mr. Bush was in charge. "What he told me was that he wanted people to see how deeply he understood all this," Mr. Betts said, "and how he was calling all the shots."
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paineinthearse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-16-05 01:21 PM
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1. Ever hear of Zell Miller?

Democratic Sen. Zell Miller of Georgia explains why he plans to vote for President George Bush in November.
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cruadin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-16-05 01:28 PM
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2. It's what they call a DINO.
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PROGRESSIVE1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-16-05 01:28 PM
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3. "Zell (Dick Russell-Pro Segregation) Miller" ring a bell?
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noamnety Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-16-05 01:28 PM
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4. Funny donations for a democrat
Where I come from, we call that an opportunist, not a democrat.

BETTS, ROLAND W
NEW YORK,NY 10025
CHELSEA PIERS MANAGEMENT INC
7/8/2002
$1,000
Schumer, Charles E

BETTS, ROLAND W
NEW YORK,NY 10025
CHELSEA PIERS MANAGEMENT INC
7/8/2002
$1,000
Schumer, Charles E

BETTS, ROLAND W
NEW YORK,NY 10011
CHELSEA PIERS MANAGEMENT
11/3/1999
$1,000
Kelley, Stephen P

BETTS, ROLAND W
NEW YORK,NY 10025
CHELSEA PIERS MANAGEMENT INC
3/23/1999
$1,000
Bush, George W

BETTS, ROLAND W
NEW YORK,NY 10025
4/20/2004
($25,000)
Republican National Cmte

BETTS, ROLAND W MR
NEW YORK,NY 10025
CHELSEA PIERS MANAGEMENT INC./CHAIR
12/31/2003
$25,000
Republican National Cmte

BETTS, ROLAND W MR
NEW YORK,NY 10025
CHELSEA PIERS MANAGEMENT INC./CHAIR
4/15/2004
$25,000
Republican National Cmte

BETTS, ROLAND W MR
NEW YORK,NY 10025
CHELSEA PIERS MANAGEMENT INC./CHAIR
4/28/2004
$12,500
Republican National Cmte

BETTS, ROLAND W MR
NEW YORK,NY 10025
CHELSEA PIERS MANAGEMENT INC./CHAIR
4/28/2004
$12,500
Republican National Cmte

BETTS, ROLAND W MR
NEW YORK,NY 10025
CHELSEA PIERS MANAGEMENT INC./CHAIR
1/6/2004
$2,000
Bush, George W

BETTS, ROLAND W MR
NEW YORK,NY 10025
CHELSEA PIERS MANAGMENT INC./CHAIRM
4/10/2000
$2,000
Bush, George W

BETTS, ROLAND W MR
NEW YORK,NY 10025
CHELSEA PIERS MANAGEMENT INC./CHAIR
6/7/2000
($1,000)
Bush, George W
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PROGRESSIVE1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-16-05 01:30 PM
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5. He gave a few thousand to Democrats and a hundred thousand to...
the Rethugs. Mr. Betts is NOT a DEMOCRAT. He's a PR stunt to make Bush look bi-partisan.
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Tigress DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-16-05 01:32 PM
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6. Yup
Every repub needs a token Dem on the payroll these days - right?
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Menshevik Donating Member (674 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-16-05 01:48 PM
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13. yup
sure is a lot of money that "democrat" gave to the RNC!
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magnolia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-16-05 01:32 PM
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7. Oh please!!!
Edited on Sun Jan-16-05 01:34 PM by magnolia
Mr. Betts must be hallucinating if he claims to have heard Bush say: "Do you think the case is adequately made?" Even if the question were written for him and he were cued through his earpiece he still wouldn't have communicated it so clearly and concisely without any uhs or ums!

And if Bush wanted to prove he was in charge and understood everything so "deeply"...he would have gone in front of the 9/11 panel alone, under oath and he wouldn't have been afraid to have it televised. Mr. Betts must think we are all idiots!
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Joe Chi Minh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-16-05 01:58 PM
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15. They are very limited
Edited on Sun Jan-16-05 02:02 PM by KCabotDullesMarxIII
in their choices, Magnolia, and seem to think that a foolish dissimulation is better than nothing at all.

And too limited in their own intelligence to realise that, on the contrary, remaining a mute inglorious neocon will beat staging a transparent masquerade, any day of the week.

It is as if they were aiming these attempts at subterfuge at the people who are too unworldly to bother to vote in any case!
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-16-05 01:35 PM
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8. Oh, I see- good-hearted Democrats are supposed to like Bush.
More propaganda- "...see, good-hearted "Democrats" LIKE this nice man dont have a problem with Bush."
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crispini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-16-05 01:37 PM
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9. The operative part of your post is:
"he SAYS he's a Democrat."

Yes, and I SAY I'm the Queen of Spain! People can SAY anything.
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unblock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-16-05 01:41 PM
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11. we are honored by your presence, your highness!
Edited on Sun Jan-16-05 01:41 PM by unblock
:hi:
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crispini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-16-05 01:44 PM
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12. LOL. Thank you, you may kiss my hand. :) nt
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ZombieNixon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-16-05 04:36 PM
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17. Mmwah!
...waaaaait a minnit...Spain doesn't have a queen. You're a fraud! ;)
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oldtime dfl_er Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-16-05 01:39 PM
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10. this is one more piece of propaganda
Edited on Sun Jan-16-05 01:41 PM by oldtime dfl_er
to soften junior's image. It's bs. Remember that -- very specifically -- some of the people who have left the administration have used these EXACT words to criticize smirky. Universally he is called "incurious", described as one who "never asks questions", etc. This is a typical rovian tactic to take a negative and , through whatever means necessary including lying, change it around to a positive. They lie. They lie.


And the crap about bringing Cheney along to show he (bush) was in charge? How fucking cynical and insane is that answer? Who the fuck is going to believe that horsepucky? sorry for the swearing but Im getting angrier and angrier. The friggin NY Times should know better, what the fukc is their problem?


www.cafepress.com/showtheworld
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noamnety Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-16-05 01:56 PM
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14. Propaganda? Never!!
I was laughing when they got to the part where they managed to slip in that Bush's friend actually married a black woman. :)
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quaoar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-16-05 05:58 PM
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20. But look here.....
In 1972, he married a fellow teacher, the former Lois Phifer, who had passed muster with Mr. Bush. "I wanted her to meet George; I wanted George to meet her," Mr. Betts said. "An interracial marriage in 1972 was a very uncommon thing." Mr. Bush approved, and by the time Mrs. Betts was in the hospital after the birth of the first of the couple's two children, in 1975, the still-single Mr. Bush came to keep his old fraternity brother company at Mr. Betts's town house on West 102nd Street, where the Bettses still live.

See, that proves that Bush is progressive and generous, right? After all, he allowed his friend to marry a black woman.

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noamnety Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-16-05 06:55 PM
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21. Buahahahahaha
I should have kept reading, I didn't know they worked it in again! That's hilarious.

They should have used it as a headline. "President chooses to Remain Friends with Man who Married Black Woman"
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-16-05 05:00 PM
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18. They do know better. They are part of the problem. (nt)
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Contrary1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-16-05 02:10 PM
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16. Well, I for one, am convinced
that these two are best buddies. Doesn't everyone
autograph pictures they have taken with friends?
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-16-05 05:05 PM
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19. Teresa Lapore, Ed Koch, Zell Miller...Also I remember mcClellan once:
"The president has many friends who are members of the N.A.A.C.P.,"

I believe you all know the original "My best friends are..." quote.
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