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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-16-05 01:58 PM
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I deleted my message.
Edited on Sun Jan-16-05 02:55 PM by madfloridian
I thought most of us knew our Democrats were saying those things...that they would still vote for the war even now. So many are.

Too much anger, let it go...let them go on to Iran.
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Vincardog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-16-05 02:02 PM
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1. Diebold and ES&S chose him not me
I will never submit to the tyranny of the Shrub no True Patriot will either VIVA
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Selteri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-16-05 02:03 PM
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2. There is something wrong
with ANYONE who thinks they are above the law which is what he just said. Welcome to a dictatorship.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-16-05 02:05 PM
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3. Not the point of the post.
He did not need to be re-elected for the war to continue.
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Vincardog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-16-05 02:11 PM
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4. So because the petty dick tator starter an illegal unjust war of
aggression to benefit his corporate backers and got us so far in that he does not believe Sen. Kerry could have gotten us out. That justifies his crony capitalism and cronyism? That means that there can be no discussion of the absolute shambles his whole administration has been? Is that what he is saying?
I say no. Hold him accountable in the Hague.
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cestpaspossible Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-16-05 02:12 PM
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5. 'Our Democrats are pretty much chiming in to say he is right.'
?? I missed it. Who said that, when and where?
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Mist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-16-05 02:16 PM
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6. Avoid craziness--don't try to "make sense" of anything * says
He's the world's most infamous and dangerous dry drunk (who may not be all that dry). Believe me, I know the type. Grandiose and out of control. When it happens with an individual in one's life, one learns to keep away from that individual. When it's the prez., we're fucked.
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Cocoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-16-05 02:18 PM
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7. Kennedy said what Bush said was "ridiculous"
you realize, what you are doing is basically smearing the dems?

What they actually say doesn't really matter to you, just the attitude that you already held.
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Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-16-05 02:23 PM
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8. You have Democratic LEADERS saying the Iraq invasion was a good idea...
Edited on Sun Jan-16-05 02:30 PM by Q
...and others praising Bush for his great leadership in the 'war on terror'. There are others still that say they could fight a 'better' war in Iraq.

This isn't a smear. It's the truth. With few exceptions...Democrats support Bush's aggressive war. They have from the very beginning.

Kennedy is one of the FEW Democrats that have fought Bush on this issue. But he is also one of the few remaining liberals in the Dem party leadership. The New Democrats don't seem to care what he has to say.
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Cocoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-16-05 02:30 PM
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9. this is a DISCUSSION board
when people are so wrapped up in their own agenda that they think it's ok to distort reality in order to push it, it stops being discussion and starts being propaganda.

This poster did not give an example of a single dem that expressed approval for what Bush said. It's a fucking smear.
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Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-16-05 02:34 PM
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10. Where is the distortion? Whether you like it or not...
Edited on Sun Jan-16-05 02:35 PM by Q
...the Democratic party supports Bush's invasion and occupation of Iraq. Even Kerry supported it...with his vote and in saying that he would simply change the approach.

Bush said his 'win' in November gives credibility and a sense of approval for his war in Iraq. Given that the Dem party has supported it from the beginning...it's not very difficult to extrapolate that they agree with what he said.

But the issue isn't really about Bush said...it's about his ability to continue the 'war' because he now has approval from at least half of the country AND the Democratic party.
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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-16-05 02:52 PM
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14. I agree with you wholeheartedly. Our government WANTS this war.
They need to steal the oil but don't want it to sound bad.
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Selteri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-16-05 02:34 PM
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11. I think the term is Troll
Using and twisting words to create a meaning that didn't exist. It's like using the fact that a lot of Senators voted for the war under a different precept than we were brought to war has been used to claim that they justified it.
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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-16-05 02:53 PM
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15. But they have yet to state it is wrong.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-16-05 02:45 PM
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12. Not approval of what Bush said....approval of the war.
I guess I did not think I had to give examples as so many voted for it and on TV still say they would. Maybe we don't hear things the same.
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Cocoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-16-05 02:52 PM
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13. "our democrats are pretty much chiming in to say he's right":
"chiming" implies multiple voices, in harmony. Your linked story does not provide ONE such voice, nor do you.
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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-16-05 02:53 PM
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16. You must be deaf.
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cestpaspossible Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-16-05 02:57 PM
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17. Dean says Bush is on the right course. Is that who
Edited on Sun Jan-16-05 03:41 PM by cestpaspossible
you're talking about?

The Bush administration is strongly encouraging elections in Iraq to take place on January 30th, and I believe that is the right course to take. The only chance America has to get out of Iraq, without long term damage to our national security, is to let Iraqis take over their country's government as soon as possible.
Keep the Election on Track


It's crazy to attack Dean over this. Just agreeing with a particular course Bush is taking and hoping for the best possible outcome for the United States is not the same thing as saying "Bush was or is right".
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Kolesar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-16-05 03:15 PM
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19. your url has two http
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-16-05 03:14 PM
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18. Tsk, tsk, how dare you point out the obvious.
Our Democratic "leadership" is so busy puckering up for Bush's butt that they've completely forgotten that they're supposed to be an opposition party.
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