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Gold Metal Flake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-16-05 10:39 PM
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US Iraq Dead Actually 8000??
From: The Voice of the White House


January 12, 2005: "Several interesting items, one only amusing and the other serious. The Bush people have received so many very serious death threats aimed at Our Beloved Leader that they might as well put a dummy in the Presidential limo on inauguration day. No one will talk about the volume and apparent seriousness of these ongoing threats and neither will they talk about the ACTUAL DEATH TOLLS IN IRAQ! You have been posting only the official figures which are not accurate. These OFFICIAL figures indicate about 1,400 are dead and perhaps 4,000 wounded. Actually, and I have seen the figures from the Pentagon, over 8,000 are dead and over 15,000 are wounded, some maimed for life…blind, missing legs and arms or with the prospect of spending the rest of their young lives confined to a wheelchair in a Vets hospital with a permanent piss bag tied to a leg. This is the greatest secret and holds the greatest fear for the Bush people."

Is this possible?

Can we find out?

What about the parents, spouses or other next of kin? Can we find some way for these people to come forth with the names of their dead in order to compile an alternate, public list of casualties? Even if it's just 1000 more than the "Official Body Count", it would trigger questions that even the Corporate Whore Consent Machine (CWCM, NOT MSM) cannot shout down.

If what VOTWH claims is true, even by half of the figure he/she states, it could destroy the administration.

This could be HUGE if true. If true, it would go WAY beyond election fraud, because it could not be dismissed, and it would be so simple to explain.

If this is true, we would need help to get word out for people to come forward. We would need some method, some device, to allow the statements from the next-of-kin to be taken and recorded. Some "thing" that the names of the dead and their military ID & other info to be attached to for the record.

What does DU think about this?
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toymachines Donating Member (782 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-16-05 10:45 PM
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1. i am sure some family would have noticed their childs' name
was not on the list of those killed. I find it hard to believe that such a thing could happen without someone putting up a big fuss. although it would be a major secret which the media would surely keep hidden. hell i would believe just about anything from that administration now.
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shraby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-16-05 11:02 PM
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2. What if.....
families weren't notified at all and are assuming they just haven't heard from their relative in Iraq lately.
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nonny Donating Member (309 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-05 10:09 AM
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9. "The List"
I have searched for a complete list of names but have not found it.
Please post the link.
If the list is numbered --- then we can check the total.
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sleipnir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-16-05 11:04 PM
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3. Common scare tactic.
There is no evidence to support this. Actually, I strongly believe this whole "thousands more dead" is part of Russian disinformation campaign aimed at breaking support for the war. I've noticed that about 75% of all the sources on these types of stories are consistantly from Russians. Who has the most to gain by a quick US pullout? Hummmm....that's a no-brainer. Remember, Russia had huge contracts in Iraq involving oil and other commodities prior to the war. Now they've got absolutely nothing.

Sure this might seem a bit far out, but it's certainly worth a look. Lots of disinformation came out of Russia, though the web, during the actual conflict, why not now?
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MasonJar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-16-05 11:07 PM
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4. That is possible, but still why not check into it. If the WH can hide
the bodies from the press as they pour into Dover, they can certainly manipulate the lists. We seldom hear about any of the woumded actually dying of their injuries and yet many must. The wounded is much worse than the government admits. In addition we have killed in the 100.000 range of Iraqis, who were simply living their lives in their own country. I am so ashamed. Let's check out the numbers. We need to set up a web site for all parents and spouses of soldiers killed in Iraq.
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Oversea Visitor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-16-05 11:09 PM
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5. It will pop sooner or later
if it is true. Only so much can be covered up. There is always a breaking point.

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Zynx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-16-05 11:24 PM
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6. Bunk
You can't hide modern military deaths in this fashion.

This is propaganda, and poor propaganda at that.
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Kindigger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-16-05 11:41 PM
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7. Wish I could find that story (with pic)
where helicopters were dropping body bags in a river. The bag occupants were GIs.
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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-05 08:27 AM
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8. I agree; pure bullshit.
Families would speak out if they hadn't heard from their loved ones within a week or two. There is no way the US military could cover up a dozen troops' deaths, let alone thousands.

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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-05 10:30 AM
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10. Heck, let's just leave the Iraqi dead at 8,000 officially
The Red Cross has pulled out, The UN has pulled out, Doctors Without Borders has pulled out...so...heh...just call it 8,000 and let it stay at that.

They're brown people anyway...

/sarcasm
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