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OrangeOwl Donating Member (25 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-05 10:38 PM
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Kilgore Resigns in Virginia
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carrowsboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-05 11:15 PM
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1. but for the wrong reasons...
He needs to resign cause he illegally eavesdropped on calls, not to run for Governor.

>>>"Three years ago Jerry Kilgore made a promise to Virginians. Today, he broke that promise. Considering how weak and ineffective he's been in office, I wonder if anyone will even notice he's gone," Elleithee said.<<<<


Hehehehehe!

As a Virginian, I've had my Kaine for Governor sticker on my car since Nov 3rd...right after Kerry resigned.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-05 11:19 PM
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3. Notice that theT-D tries to say that it is no biggie-Sabato doesn't buy it
Kilgore would become the fourth straight attorney general to resign before his term ends to run for governor.


snip


University of Virginia political science professor Larry J. Sabato said it's unusual nationally for elected officeholders to step aside to pursue a higher office.

"This is awfully early to be leaving," Sabato said.

"This is an insane tradition almost unknown elsewhere around the country. There's no need for a sitting attorney general to resign. We've invented a problem that doesn't exist," he said.


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carrowsboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-05 11:26 PM
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4. more like
The Richmond Times-Disgrace

They'll spend the next few months doing hit pieces on Kaine while announcing Kilgore as The Second Coming.

Also, is Kilgore gay? He pings loudly off the gaydar.
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OrangeOwl Donating Member (25 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-05 11:31 PM
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6. Don't fall into that trap
The more people make fun of his Southwest Virginia accent, the more we write off the western part of the state.

Keep doing that, buddy, and we lose.

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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-05 11:35 PM
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11. He's from Scottsville (Walton Mtn.) funny story about that
I know (two degrees of seperation) of someone who knows someone who was one of the people who had to resign over the eavesdropping thing. See the original plan was that Kilgore's voice would not be heard in his ads just his image. I am not sure if McCain-Feingold changes that on a state level ("I am ____ and I approved this message") but I have noticed that Kilgore has tempered his sugary sweet VuhginYa accent.

It really did take one aback the first time you heard him speak.
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 05:58 PM
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20. Hi OrangeOwl!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-05 11:48 PM
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15. LOL
Edited on Mon Jan-17-05 11:48 PM by underpants
See my post just above this one.

I can just see heads shoot backwards all over the Commonwealth.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-05 11:15 PM
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2. I just heard it-resigning Feb.1st to concentrate on his campaign
Welcome to DU OrangeOwl :hi:

Before he leaves he has to push his extension of the death penalty (purely political).

I hope this backfires on him. Kaine should drill him on leaving his job and shrugging his responsibilties to run for office.

BTW-I noticed that the stock shot of Kilgore that WWBT (Channel 12 in Richmond) included him leaving a building right beside Wilder-no accident that.
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OrangeOwl Donating Member (25 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-05 11:29 PM
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5. Hold on ... Let's attack on what's actually true
First, I must say that it is dangerous to accuse him of having listened to the phone calls. He did not. And no one -- no one -- had accused him of that, except you, as far as I know. If state Democrats didn't accuse him of that, I'm sure it probably didn't happen.

No doubt Larry Framme would have tagged him with that if it were true.

It is very reckless to accuse people of crimes when they have not committed them. I'm just trying to be safe here.

That said, you can say what you want about other stuff about that scandal.

Now -- death penalty.

Here's where we get him.

He is unabashedly Pro-death penalty. Our man Kaine is against it, and if governor, would have the power to do a moratorium.

Think about that. Just like Maryland or Illinois.

So, Kilgore is for the death penalty. Kaine is against it.

That's all I need to know.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-05 11:31 PM
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7. Kaine is also untouchable on guns
"Project Exile" granted him the highest possible rating from the NRA.

I didn't accuse him of the eavesdropping thing (BTW-without money from Warner and Allen the Repubs would have been bankrupt and unable to run candidates) so I don't know what you mean.
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OrangeOwl Donating Member (25 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-05 11:33 PM
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8. I was
respinding to carrowsboy, who actually accused him of crimes.
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OrangeOwl Donating Member (25 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-05 11:35 PM
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9. Whoa
Kaine has the highest rating from the NRA?

I'd like to see that.

Simply embracing "Project Exile" doesn't do that.

I'd like to not think that Kaine is a tool of the NRA.

I don't think that's true.

Please provide backup.

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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-05 11:37 PM
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12. No not a tool just that Exile gave him that rating.
See he is TOUGH on enforcing existing laws ( an NRA rallying cry) so he gets the high rating. He started as a civil rights attorney.
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OrangeOwl Donating Member (25 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-05 11:44 PM
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14. I don't understand
Exile is not a rating agency. Exile is a state and local law. It does not give ratings to people at all.

So what do you mean?

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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 08:47 AM
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16. By instituting Exile the NRA now rates him very high
Cause and effect. The NRA rates him highly BECAUSE Exile was put in place.
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carrowsboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-05 11:35 PM
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10. well...
Edited on Wed Jan-19-05 09:18 AM by Skinner
He isn't exactly innocent.

http://www.timesdispatch.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=RTD/MGArticle/RTD_BasicArticle&c=MGArticle&cid=1031779563080


Democrats blasted Virginia Republicans yesterday for their role in the eavesdropping scandal, said Attorney General Jerry W. Kilgore reacted to it like "Pontius Pilate" and suggested he fire his chief administrative officer who was involved, Anne Petera.

A spokesman for Kilgore said he had no plans to get rid of Petera and noted it was his office that blew the whistle on Edmund A. Matricardi III, the former Republican Party executive director who illegally listened in on two Democratic conference calls in March 2002.

Democrats said part of the $750,000 that the Republican Party of Virginia has agreed to pay to settle the civil lawsuit against the GOP and four other defendants will go to two nonprofit organizations.

They are the Minority Political Leadership Institute at Virginia Commonwealth University and the Sorensen Institute for Political Leadership at the University of Virginia.


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OrangeOwl Donating Member (25 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-05 11:41 PM
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13. I'm one
who doesn't think that story has any more legs. No doubt Tim Kaine will try to trot it out, but the truth is, Kilgore is the one who told his people to call the State Police.

At the end of the day, that is what happened. I think we need to get over it. Plus, it was one of our own who gave the eavesdropper the passcode.

I mean, come on. Can we not do better than some manufactured scandal against Kilgore (when, in fact he behaved pretty well) and the way he talks?

How about the death penalty, abortion and taxes?

Hello?



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Moderator DU Moderator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 06:02 PM
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Per DU copyright rules
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Charon Donating Member (321 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 10:04 AM
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18. concentrate on his campaign
If the man is going to concentrate on running for office, why should he be on the public payroll as the Attorney General. Few politicians seem to accept the premise that the office the currently hold is the office they should pay attention to. Just my thoughts on the subject.
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spooky3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 08:53 AM
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17. he resigned now rather than later, so the Rethug legislature can appoint
Edited on Tue Jan-18-05 08:58 AM by spooky3
a successor. If he had waited, Dem. Gov. Warner would appoint.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A16444-2005Jan17.html
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 10:36 AM
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19. VA guy here
Edited on Tue Jan-18-05 10:37 AM by autorank
He's giving up certain advantages and doing something "early" according to Larry Sabatto (well known UVA hack). So there is room for a variety of questions and speculations.

The Republicans in VA are about to have a big meltdown (want to make any miscarriage a mandatory report to state officials w/in 12 hours of the miscarriage). Wonder what that will do for their image. Bastards are traumatizing women.

Whatever the reason for his resignation, the point remains that me must be defeated. We can't take another Republican Governor here. The last two flakes (Allen and Gilmore) did great damage and now we're stuck with the clowns running the legislature.

Go Kaine (I'll be giving and working for you!!!!!!!)
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