*OFFICIAL* Condi Rice Hearings, NOW on CSPAN 9am east.

[TheDonkey]

Biden on now, not really tearing Condi up, but he is giving her a laundry list of things this State Dept needs to get done (which she is likely to ignore).

[Badger1]

1. 30 minutes

and not yet one question. These kiss ass, both dems and repugs, just love to hear themselves talk. I won't waste my time listening to anymore of this bull shit.

[spotbird]

4. You're right.

Unbelievable.

[MaineDem]

26. The questions come later...don't worry

This is all procedural at this point.

[spotbird]

2. Biden is running out the clock.

God these men love the sound of their own voices.

The administration witnesses love these blustery questions, it leaves them less time not to answer the questions.

Also:Please senators, no compound questions! Condi won't answer a question as simple as the date, give her an opportunity to wanter and she'll run with it.

[spanone]

11. Biden asked her about twenty questions......waste of time.

[imax2268]

3. Feinstein up now...

kissing Condi's ass...

:puke:

[KoKo]

22. She put a crown on Condi's head and kissed her up...going through her

whole history, child prodigy, played piano at 3 and brilliantly followed her star to the white house. Lots of stuff about her being a woman and black, and it was as if she was MLK or something.

It was really horrible. Fienstein sitting right next to Condi and sucking up in the most personal way.

That was after Biden who "sounded like" he was holding her accountable until he admited she asked him to go on a diplomacy mission in Libya and how he would vote for her anyway. Biden also said the hearings weren't about "holding the President or anyone accountable." No one is to be held accountable for taking us into an illegal war and killing thousands of innocent people including our soldiers.

This is such a white wash it's nauseating. One party system...that's what we have. I hope Boxer is better...but she's totally outnumbered here. The whole committe is sucking up. It's shameful...

[JohnOneillsMemory]

34. Rice skipped 1st and 7th grade. That explains losing touch with the herd.

This is a formative experience.

Once she became a 'brain' and lost any integration with her social peers, she became the perfect tool of oppression and destruction that pathological power embodies.

Lost little girl...

I skipped 3rd grade and it took years to be accepted back into the 'other reindeer games.' But I learned about groupthink psychology as a result. Condi lost her conscience and was rewarded for it.

[grumpy old fart]

5. Like she's gonna honestly answer any questions anyway....

even if she were asked any tough questions, which is beyond doubtful.....Bunch of pathetic corporate butt sniffers, oughta just roll over and play dead...Thank you Ma'am, may I have another?

grrrr, I gotta get some coffee....

[imax2268]

7. Checka...Checka...Checka...Checka...

spit it out already...

[TahitiNut]

33. Condi will filibuster, duck, weave, and dodge - running out the clock.

That's her style. She runs off at the mouth with a bunch of bullshit having no relationship to either the question or to the actual behavior of this Regime.

[dogman]

6. Don't the Dems just love her?

B$$$'s DNA will be all over the Dem leadership.

[grumpy old fart]

9. Dems are nothing but a Blue Dress..... eom

[kentuck]

40. OO-oo-oo-oo....

That's a sticker!

[spanone]

8. First, Joe Biden tells her he is going to vote for her confirmation. WTF?

Before she answers ONE question. This is a bullshit session. Just vote right now and get the shit over with.

[grumpy old fart]

17. Can't they at least say, "I'm gonna vote to confirm, because I have no...

real choice" and then go on to explain in detail why the person should not be confirmed? Nah, what would be the point? They should just say, "I'm gonna vote to confirm, because I have no balls at all and my pockets are filled by the same corporatists who love our Fuhrer...Heil Chimp King!

[tgnyc]

260. Biden fancies himself a "true" statesman

but he's really just Bush's bitch. From this morning's AP report:

Biden also praised Rice, but noted that "relations with many
of our oldest friends are quite frankly scraping the bottom
right now."

However, Biden also had blunt advice for European critics: "I
have one simple message: Get over it. Get over it. President
Bush is our president for the next four years. So get over it
and start to act in your interest, Europe."

[imax2268]

10. Did she just pull out the

"oppressed person because of the color of their skin" card...?

[TheDonkey]

12. This is sad so far

hopefully someone will ask her a sharp question and not tap dance in front of the camera.

Boxer, Obama, Kerry, Dodd might still be worthwile to see.

[Untouchedalarm]

59. John Kerry

Kerry is on the committee. Where is he?

[JDPriestly]

265. Kerry is playing Mr. Nice Guy

I e-mailed him and complained. I worked hard on his campaign and feel betrayed now that he is just rolling over for business as usual.

[spotbird]

13. The very worst of it is that when the Republicans fail.

These will be our leaders.

How can we possibly blame the media when this is what they are fed?

[imax2268]

15. Condi up now...

wonder how long her statement is going to be...?

[beam me up scottie]

20. Invoking MLK's legacy now. No shame. puke

n/t

[Maestro]

I thought the same.

[beam me up scottie]

76. Between condi and *, the past 2 days must have been

difficult for MLK's family. I would lost it, I don't have the composure and dignity of Mrs. King.

[KoKo]

52. True....I had hoped for better than this...even thought the past record

is not good for our hopes. This is the second time some of us are going through these confirmation hearings for the Chimp's Cabinet and now they have a track record that sucks...yet it's the same old "lets work together and not hold anyone accountable...we must have more "diplomacy."

:puke:

[GregD]

14. For cube folks, www.kpfa.org is covering the hearing

[imax2268]

16. you guys are not missing to much right now cube rats...

just a bunch of ass kissing...

[GregD]

19. you got that straight - what a bunch of eyewash

Biden already assured his vote, so why would "evil eyes" Condi have any reason to answer any of his hard questions, assuming there are any?

Bensky also told us at the beginning that this 2-day hearing may get wrapped up in one day.

I'm furious to see Feinstein presenting the sales pitch for Rice. WTF does it take to form a cohesive opposition around here?

[Ladyhawk]

194. We Californians need to get rid of Feinstein. eom

[spotbird]

18. The cube rats would be better off not following this at all.

It is nauseating, it makes the Gonzales hearing look like a grilling.

What's the point.

[KoKo]

47. I'm waiting for Boxer....her hair has gone white overnight...and she looks

very unhappy...so do a couple of the other Democrats when Feinstein was giving the "Condi Suck up." I wish everyone except Biden and Feinstein would vote NO to Condi.. She Lied...she needs to be held accountable.

I hope we get a surprise...

[JohnOneillsMemory]

73. also streaming at www.c-span.org

[Wilber_Stool]

21. What the fuck

is she talking about?

[imax2268]

25. she's burning up time...

just blabbering some jibberish from KKKarl...

[E_Smith]

31. radical islam = communism

i think this is the overriding message.

[TheDonkey]

23. Condi:"the time for diplomacy... IS NOW!"

This dumbass is just in her own little world. WTF the time for diplomacy was 3 years ago.

I find it amusing that the woman behind Condi is practically falling asleep.

[grumpy old fart]

24. "Ideology of Tyranny and Hatred"....

She must be talkin' bout *....

[Maestro]

27. "Spread freedom and democracy throughout the world."

"That is the mission of the US..." OMG, what a bunch of caustic, ironic, good sound-bite rhetoric just spewed from her mouth. PNAC must be giggling at this moment.

Alliances are important she said. WTF!? I'm gagging.

[TahitiNut]

41. They "spread freedom" like a rapist "spreads love."

They're perverts and ghouls.

[JohnOneillsMemory]

66. Ouch. That's sharp, TN...see Christian Parenti's book 'The Freedoms'

about the clusterfuck in Iraq. The Iraqis now sarcasticly refer to their chaos and suffering as 'The Freedoms' bestowed by the US.

[TahitiNut]

118. It's the simile that comes closest of any that I've considered.

My reading list is so long I doubt I'll even come close to finishing before I'm ashes. I go through $10 reading glasses like mad.

The implacable enmity of ordinary Iraqis for the US is now assured for many decades to come. Anyone who can't put themselves in the place of an Iraqi whose home is invaded and family abused by foreign soldiers in the middle of the night is so lacking in anything remotely associated with human empathy as to be not quite sane. Anyone who can't put themselves in the place of an Iraqi whose home is bombed and family slaughtered isn't even close to being human or sane.

[imax2268]

28. oh god...if I am confirmed...?

:puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke:

[KoKo]

29. Condi gives the same speech over and over and over...broken record..

She just isn't qualified, I don't care how much Bush and the members of this Committe (except Boxer and Obama) suck up to her. She got where she was because she's a tool of the Bushies and PNAC. Not because of independent thinking which is what we need.

She isn't being held accountable for anything. But Clinton was impeached for marital infidelity.

[TahitiNut]

30. Every word coming out of her mouth is a lie - 180 degrees from Bushoilini

International law? Nope. The U.S. is an outlaw nation.
Diplomacy? Nope. Militarism.
She's a lying, detestible Reichbot.

[imax2268]

32. my coffee is curdeling...

[imax2268]

35. kind of like our Democratic demands were met...

aye you stupid cow...?

[ncrainbowgrrl]

37. THe town square test?

Uh- oh.

[Catchawave]

74. the town square question caught my attention.....

...the locals are trying to ban protestors and leafletting at ours because they're afraid it will hurt business :(

[E_Smith]

43. this is nutty

its our job to spread democracy to every nation!!! YES, invade MORE countries!

this is pure PNAC.

[grumpy old fart]

36. Ukraine refused to accept flawed elections....Please jump on this Boxer!!!

God, the gall....

[imax2268]

38. the town square test...???

what the fuck is that...?

walk through the town square and speak their minds without fear of arresst or bladaaa blaaaaaa...???

What the fuck...?

[Maestro]

39. "The town square test"

"We cannot rest until everyone living in a fear society is free."

The sound bites keep rolling...

Condi,

[TahitiNut]

51. She's the COMPLETE antithesis of Wellstone's maxim.

"Never separate the lives you live from the words you speak." (Paul Wellstone)

There is nothing but a separation between the words she speaks and the behavior of this regime.

Condipocrisy on steroids. Thank God she's never reproduced!!

[grumpy old fart]

42. So Bush is gonna break with the Saudi Thugs????

[E_Smith]

48. No they were left off the list. Free pass. nt

[JohnOneillsMemory]

44. "The Town Square Test" She describes the Fear Society!!!!!!!!!!

In touting the fictitious 'American Freedom' she says an important test is the ability to walk into the town square and express yourself and protest. If that is not possible, then you live in a "Fear Society."

SHE FUCKING ADMITTED IT RIGHT OUT LOUD.

EVER PROTESTED THE BFEE REGIME, BITCH? TRY A 'FREE SPEECH ZONE' OR A FACEFULL OF GAS AND PEPPER SPRAY APPLIED TO YOUR EYES WITH Q-TIPS LIKE THE ECO-PROTESTERS.

[imax2268]

46. YUP...

going on right here today...!!

[grumpy old fart]

45. "The Holy Land"....

you catch that? From our secular government..?

[imax2268]

49. man is she wasting time with all this crap...

this is nothing but a time killer...listen to this jibberish...she's just wasting time with all this...just like she did during the 9/11 investigation...

[JohnOneillsMemory]

53. Idealistic rhetoric that Army psy-ops calls 'glittering generalities.'

Listen up kids. This is called 'lying under oath.'

C'mon Boxer. Go for the throat.

[AG78]

50. I love humanity

The crap we come up with...it's inspiring.

[KoKo]

54. I had to put Condi on "Mute." waiting for someone else...n/t

[underpants]

55. My God is she STILL reading???

I had a full conversation with a co-worker about the playoff games this weekend while she has been stalling for time.

[E_Smith]

56. "fighting an ideology of hatred" and "protecting the homeland"

nice sound bites.

[imax2268]

57. oh please...

put on a commercial about viagra or something...she's a real bore...

[JohnOneillsMemory]

58. "freedom, prosperity""freedom, prosperity""freedom, prosperity"

"freedom, prosperity""freedom, prosperity""freedom, prosperity"

[imax2268]

61. seriously...

someone kick that jukebox...

oh...wait...she's finally done...

Question time...this should be good...

[JohnOneillsMemory]

60. 10 min. rounds now. ONLY KERRY IS MISSING...WTF??

[robbedvoter]

65. Bagdad really, really needs him - elections, ya know?

The art of concession needs to be passed on. Acting like you lost is not so easy. Harder still, pretending you give a damn.

[JohnOneillsMemory]

69. Sharing his expertise in accepting election fraud? Yup.

[E_Smith]

70. Is Kerry "recusing" himself?

[spotbird]

80. Figures.

In a way it is better than creating a record of adoration like the others are doing.

[robbedvoter]

95. Oh, yeah, everything Kerry is doing (or not) is better....

Adoring fans always know. Thanks for enlightening us.

[spotbird]

148. Whatever. nt

[KoKo]

62. Look at what CNN already has up on it's home page....snip

Condoleezza Rice was praised for her accomplishments and public service today at the opening of her confirmation hearing to replace Colin Powell as secretary of state. "The enormously complex job before Dr. Rice will require all of her talents and experience," said Committee chairman Richard Lugar.

(Includes a pix of Feinstein sitting next to Rice)

http://www.cnn.com/

[imax2268]

63. oh no...not again...

:puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke:

[JohnOneillsMemory]

64. Feinstein proves the Dems are also Rebublicans...traitors to humanity.

[E_Smith]

68. what is wrong with feinstein?

WTF?

[JohnOneillsMemory]

71. DINO. Her husband gets millions in Homeland Security contracts. Nuff said.

[KoKo]

121. I didn't know that about her husband...thanks for the info. n/t

[mhr]

72. Yet Another Reason Some Of Us Are Considering Leaving The Party

The Democrats have become schizophrenic - no clear direction, no clear theme, no clear leadership.

[hiley]

126. damn what is wrong with these people ?

mushroom cloud.......:wtf:

[pbartch]

244. CNN IS A LYING SACK OF DOG POOP

I hope they have a poll on today........we need to get THOUSANDS of people on there to SHOW OUR BACKING OF THE Dems

[mhr]

67. Yada, Yada, Yada - Could This Woman Be More Boring?

eom

[KoKo]

99. Condi says Military Plan and Troop strength was adequate. She wouldn't

do anything about Iraq differently. Biden mentioning that Bremmer didn't quite agree...Biden saying everyone he meets with in Iraq says they need more troops...but everyone was surprised. Biden says he's concerned that she still things the force strength was appropriate.

He's now catching her in statements she made about force strength...saying that the Administration hasn't been truthful about the numbers of "Trained Iraqi Forces." He's gently chiding her (imho) about the numbers they been told and whether they are trained or not.

She's now bloviating to change the subject. She's saying desertion was the problem. But, she has an active program for discipline.

It's getting a little more interesting....he is talking about "leveling with American People." He's catching her in her lies...sort of...

[ncrainbowgrrl]

75. Ok, what's up with the Uh- Lies.

I mean- Allies.

[E_Smith]

78. LOFL. nt

[beam me up scottie]

81. she must have been using *'s speech counseler.

counseler.

[E_Smith]

77. Condi pronounces Allies with emphasis on IES.

How pretentious.

when is Boxer up?

[JohnOneillsMemory]

79. 'Law of the Sea Convention' will aid the military. Impunity to destroy.

She's gonna push this to a vote this year.
Say goodbye to marine life like whales and dolphins and...

[caligirl]

82. Di Fi number 202 224 3841

[caligirl]

83. Boxer number 202 224 3553 SFO 415 403 0100

[Wilber_Stool]

84. I guess we're all Republicrats now................n/t

[Al-CIAda]

85. Can there be any doubt...our "leaders" are DEAD and IMPOTENT

The Dem. party needs BURYING.

[grumpy old fart]

86. "what is expected of the American people"?

to sit down and shut up and drink the Kool Aid....if she answers honestly...

[JohnOneillsMemory]

87. Biden now softballing at length. "Did you consider how many troops needed

in Iraq?" She says no. DUH!

She says Tommy Franks and Joint Chiefs of Staff called the numbers.

[E_Smith]

"good advice from Franks"

right.

[imax2268]

94. yup...

and he got a medal...!

[E_Smith]

88. "good advice from Franks"

right.

[JohnOneillsMemory]

92. She says she wouldn't change the numbers going in based on what

she knows now.

"Troops melted into the civilian population without fighting and now military force can't win this. Reconstruction and elections can."

[grumpy old fart]

89. "unforseen circumstances?"

[grumpy old fart]

91. She thinks it's great that we are WAY under deployed in Iraq...

go ahead Biden, tell her how much you love her...

[beam me up scottie]

93. wow, I must be psychic.

[Al-CIAda]

90. Biden asking about D-2 football??!!!! What about ALLOWING

9-11 to happen?

What about PLANNING 9-11?

What about the WAR GAMES involving hijacking planned THAT MORNING???

What about the LACK OF INTERCEPT and DEFENSE?

WTF!!!?

[JohnOneillsMemory]

96. Football chat is a 'friendly one of the guys' tactic to show she's one of

the boys who kill with big toys. Testosterone indicator.

[grumpy old fart]

97. DEMAND A REAL ANSWER, you asswipe BIDEN!!!

She dancing all around the past lies on this "training" issue....

[JohnOneillsMemory]

101. She calls torture and execution 'discipline problems.' "More leadership"

is needed. I think that is exactly what caused the horror, not lack of it!

[E_Smith]

103. "leadership gap" to be addressed with death squads?

i think i read that yesterday.

[Mist]

98. Been watching from the beginning

Took me a while to find the thread. Well at least Biden mentioned a lot of the questions many have about CondiLIESa. Luger and Feinstein should wipe the brown drool off their chins. (I know that's disgusting, but so's this hearing!)

[imax2268]

102. BARF...

she is dancing around the issue now..."trying, trying, trying"...notice she keeps saying "trying"...

[TheDonkey]

106. haha, good synopsis

Hagels up now, I brought the trashcan closer to my desk.

[Donna Zen]

100. Feinstein

iirc, DiFi's husband is concerned about oil and gas interests.

Condi's claim to intellectual fame is her vast knowledge of Caspian Sea oil contracts.

I see a connection.

[imax2268]

104. it takes some time...?

How much fucking time to they need...?

[KoKo]

105. She can't quite say how many Iraqi's have been trained, and she's glad

Senators have visited Iraq and given them feedback. She says they are looking into the problem. Biden says there's not more than 4,000 Iraqi's trained and Condi should pick up the phone and talk to folks on the ground in Iraq... :D

[grumpy old fart]

110. Here comes the B.S. Q&A....

[Quixote1818]

111. She sounds qualified. Glad to know she is on top of things. God help us!

That right their is enough to vote against her in my opinion.

[robbedvoter]

113. Yeay! You go Kerry!

[KoKo]

116. I get the impression no one knows what the Hell we're doing in Iraq...

The questions and answers are all clueless. Sort of going around and around. We got into Iraq on false information and we are there...but when we invade on lies...how can we expect to know what the truth of anything is.

This is what's tragic about this.

[JohnOneillsMemory]

124. This hearing is a charade to imply competence where none is evident.

Christian Parenti has written a book called 'The Freedoms' after being on the ground in the chaos.

He says even gung-ho 'America the Beautiful' special forces and intel military lifers are realizing this is a cluster-fuck of atrocities on the part of the US which is making things even worse every second.

Good Mourning, Vietnam!

[JohnOneillsMemory]

107. Chuck Hagel up now 10:34am EST.

[JohnOneillsMemory]

109. Asking about 'the exit strategy' !!!!!

[JohnOneillsMemory]

114. "Building security capacity towards the day LESS help is needed"

meaning the US ain't leaving. Just training Iraqis to occupy themselves.

"Lessoning our own responsibilities..."

"Helping Iraqis take on their own responsibilties..."

"Diminution of our own responsibilities over time..."

"Our evolution of attitude towards how much say the Iraqis have..."

PERMANENT OCCUPATION AND CONTROL, BABY!!

[ferme ta bush]

108. Hagel's doing the Comb-Forward now...

[E_Smith]

115. BS is really flying now!

"how much we need to help them is proportional to how much they need help"... or something

"i would hesitate to put a time table on it"

"evolution of attitude"

[Roland99]

125. "evolution of attitude"??

Didn't she get the Creationist memo?

[E_Smith]

119. she has to manure, uh i mean demure.

[grumpy old fart]

112. 4,000 or 210,000......numbers make no difference at all to this admin....

And none of these Senators will beat her over the head with this...."iraqis have to be capable"..."Iraqis will take more and more responsibility"...total Kool Aid babble....

[JohnOneillsMemory]

117. "Hard work"..."this is a time of responsibilty"...air...gas...smegma..spin

[beam me up scottie]

120. the Palestinians and Israelis have to live up to THEIR responsibilities?

[imax2268]

122. she didn't say

era of responsibility did she...?

[KoKo]

123. and "the coalition" is training them.......HA! what coalition...n/t

[beam me up scottie]

127. yes, most state leaders would welcome their advice

regarding partisan cooperation.

[KoKo]

128. Tune In....Sarbanes showing our Trade Deficit....Great....now it's getting

interesting...

[beam me up scottie]

129. ooh, bringing out the visual aids now...

[JohnOneillsMemory]

130. D-Paul Sarbannes now showing chart of massive trade deficits.

Yeah, let's talk about the next disaster, the US economy.

[imax2268]

131. OH MY GOD...

tweety and this other witch are breaking in...

COME ON...!

I wanted to hear Condi's lame excuse for an answer...

[JohnOneillsMemory]

132. citing book- "The US is like Blanche DuBois, relying on kindness of

strangers." Being held up by debt to other nations.

Oooh. There's a portrayal of a pitiable and weak condition!

Condi stars in 'Streetcar Named Desire,' the neo-cons desire to rule the world...

Hey graphic artists. Do a pic of W yelling "Stella!" to Condi.

[imax2268]

133. So...

does anyone think that Sarbanes got her with his line of questioning...?

Or did he just softball...?

[JohnOneillsMemory]

135. He showed a chart of massive economic vulnerability. A hard hit, IMHO.

[Geek_Girl]

136. I think He scored some points

But his area is more in the area of economics. I think it lays some ground for future political positioning on the trade deficit debate.

[Mist]

134. At least Sarbanes called CondaLIESa on trade deficits

She said we have the "fastest growing economy" and he said yes, but it's growing in the wrong direction (meaning increasing trade deficits).

[imax2268]

137. yea...that was good

wasn't it...I was watching MSNBC...tweety and some other chick broke in and I didn't get to hear her answer...so I switched to CSPAN...and got the last bit of her answer...

I think he got her on that one...!

[beam me up scottie]

138. many many bad people (?) want to harm our interests?

she HAS been hanging around * way too long. Just how much does your IQ drop when you associate with him?

[Untouchedalarm]

139. Kerry

I think I saw Kerry

[grumpy old fart]

140. Yeah, he's there....guess we'll see....eom

[JohnOneillsMemory]

141. Chris Dodd "we're in trouble in this hemisphere" -no Venezualan oil.

Hey lady. What about this crisis?

[Al-CIAda]

150. Maybe if we did have the CIA try to assasinate the Venezualan

leader,or rig the election down there, we might be on better terms.

[medeak]

205. comparisons to Cuba?

Like Venezuala doesn't hold elections.

This is terribly for my mental health....have to turn off.

[grumpy old fart]

142. Question was, "are you going to change directions?"..

and her answer is "we've made great progress." Can't she just say "no" and move on?

[buzzard]

143. Questions are rarely answered and this is the fault of the

questioner in my opinion.

[Untouchedalarm]

147. Unanswered questions

Nobody wants to be the bad guy.

[grumpy old fart]

144. Ok Ok...now follow up with a good civil rights question...Fat Chance

[grumpy old fart]

145. I see the son is a Nazi just like his dad....

Sen. Allen...GAG....what a totally airhead asswipe...

[LibDemAlways]

153. The asswipe was in my high school graduating class.

His most memorable "contribution" to the school was spraypainting racist graffiti all over the walls one weekend in an effort to incite hatred against blacks. He was probably the only kid in Southern California to have confederate flags all over his car. I heard that in college he kept a noose in his dorm room. Major league asshole and one the repukes will someday put on a Presidential ticket.

Wonder what Allen really thinks of Condi and if the "n" word, with which he's very familiar, was in the back of his shallow little mind.

[grumpy old fart]

182. Wow, great info....daddy's Nazi tendencies were well known to some

But I'm not sure the son's have been as well documented. Doesn't this come out in his Senate run?

[Catchawave]

191. Nah, it's what gets you elected in Virginia....

...think NASCAR mentality :)

[LibDemAlways]

193. When he was running against Chuck Robb

in 2000, I contacted the Robb campaign with the info. They wanted corroboration and I invited them to send a representative to our 30th high school reunion which was that weekend. They would have heard an earful, but they chose to pass. I also gave them the name and number of another member of the class who lives in Virginia and who had tried (unsuccessfully) to get the media in the state to go with the story. Don't know if they ever followed up. I've contacted reporters in VA also, but they couldn't be bothered.

[Al-CIAda]

146. "Sweet nectar of liberty"? lmao...who are these ppl. trying to fool?

Condi condemning 'propaganda"

lmao....what a joke.

[underpants]

152. George Allen is jawdropping stupid (Did he say that?)

He actually worked "fair and balanced" into the discussion.

[otohara]

149. MLK & Condi Rice in Same Sentence

over and over - making me ill. How dare they.

[Untouchedalarm]

151. Very sad

[blueblitzkrieg]

154. Kerry is talking!

[imax2268]

155. finally...

someone with BALLS...!

[Darkhawk32]

156. Sounds like he's going run her aground... n/t

[loritooker]

157. Let's hope.

[beam me up scottie]

158. nailing her on "unseen consequences" WOOHOO !

[caligirl]

159. Condi sounds like * But its hard"

[underpants]

160. "No one said it would be easy....there would be ups and downs"

LIAR!

[imax2268]

162. is she trying to use all of Kerry's time

with this answer or what...?

[Geek_Girl]

That's was her game plan

Jibber jabber without answering his question.

[robbedvoter]

257. Kerry used all kerry's time. I missed the question in the self-congratula

tory running sentence about how great Kerry did on HIS visit and whom he spoke to. Not a campaign stop, John!

[LittleClarkie]

264. That's not what I heard

My impression was that he referred to his trip because that was the base for his knowledge and his questions. I came in during Biden's questioning, and to me Kerry was the first to really challenge Rice. He'd talked to these leaders and was able to throw that in her face.

I liked the way Feingold then turned up the heat. He sounded good.

Btw, does Condi normally have that waver in her voice. She sounded emotional. And I could have slapped her for the way she played the 9/11 and the race card again and again. How many times were she and the Republicans going to repeat MLK.

Are you going to let your feelings about the election color your opinion on everything Kerry does? I see earlier in the thread you got snarky about his not even being at the hearing. A small thing really, so I won't even make you eat the whole crow. Just a foot.

[paineinthearse]

161. What the freepers are saying...

See http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1323020/posts

[beam me up scottie]

163. she would rather trade the difficulties we are having now in

Iraq than have Saddam back in charge? How do you feel about the 100,000 plus lives that were lost? Glad you traded those bitch?

[Greybnk48]

168. LIAR

Go John. Not for lack of trying??? Now she's pretending to be Black!

[beam me up scottie]

171. snort

n/t:evilgrin:

[imax2268]

164. so much for real questions...

she gave a long answer on purpose to burn up his time...she knows that he would nail her boney ass to the floor...and she gave a long answer on purpose...typical...

[paineinthearse]

165. "The policy of Aribization"???????

Rice just said "...the policy of Aribization..."

Yikes, that sounds a lot like "Vietnamization". Deja vu.

[beam me up scottie]

169. ups and downs? this is the vocabulary of a doctor?

[paineinthearse]

172. White House and State Dept searches for "aribization"

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Well, I guess you heard it here first.

[beam me up scottie]

176. rumsferatu's been coaching her

[loritooker]

186. She slipped and said to Kerry "The reason I rehearsed these (countries)"

when she was wasting his time blathering about Germany, Russia, etc. what they would do, wouldn't do. He cut her off and told her, basically, you don't have to tell me that, I know that already, my question was, what are you going to DO about it? And she said she had "rehearsed" those countries. Yes, I'd say she's been doing a lot of rehearsing.

[sunnystarr]

179. Do a search for Arabization and you'll get some results. (nt)

[paineinthearse]

188. Duh, maybe if I tried "ArAbization".

Search whitehouse.gov by keyword

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[caligirl]

166. 3/5ths of a man? Condi come on you can do better, the folks in Ohio?"

[Geek_Girl]

167. Geeze

talk about playing the race card this is really making me sick

[caligirl]

170. So blatantly too, after her boss abused the voting rights of so many.

[Greybnk48]

174. what are those lapel pins some of them are wearing? n/t

[annabanana]

177. maybe just a pnic-pnac................eom

[beam me up scottie]

173. this is the not so accidental genius of having minority yes-men

[annabanana]

175. Norm Coleman is a tool...........n/t

[Greybnk48]

181. Didn't Dick Cheney violate the sanctions on Iraq? n/t

[caligirl]

178. Will * really do anything about Putin? * self interests come first you

know. Both are screwing their respective countries.

[Darkhawk32]

180. OIL FOR FOOD?!?! WTF?!?!?!

Corporations were behind Oil for Food.... Jesus H. Christ.

[caligirl]

183. He threw her a bone, gave her a chance to recite political propaganda

[beam me up scottie]

185. Yeah, oil for food is much worse than than turning a

sovereign nation into a wasteland bordering on civil war with wall-to-wall terrorists.

[annabanana]

184. She's holding up Afganistan and Pakistan as shining examples

of what America can do in the region.......

ow my brain....

[buzzard]

197. If you want opium.n/t

[iwantmycountryback]

187. Feingold's up!!

Can't wait to see this. I expect a lot out of him.

[AlCzervik]

189. me too, after Norm Coleman i need something good

[loritooker]

190. Feingold: Your job is to reach out to others for help!!

[caligirl]

192. Na! She has to be told to do stuff, remember 9/11

[beam me up scottie]

195. No, no other nations have offered to help in Iraq, just like

she didn't know Al Qaeda was going to attack us.

[caligirl]

198. Scary isn't she, but remember for all short comings and deficient

job performances "Its Hard" is the line. Feingold is doing a great job. If this is hard ball so far, can't wait to see Boxer.

[beam me up scottie]

200. yeah, NOW she looks at the terrorism reports every morning.

[caligirl]

196. Good one Russ, self defeating strategy of the * administration

[Mist]

199. Wow - Feingold is being tougher than the others

Uses the "A" word: accountability. Says he hasn't heard about accountability for our being in Iraq. Really pointing out the lack of real plans on part of admin. Says there hasn't been accountability on part of admin. for no WMD's. Refreshing to hear someone tell the truth. CondaLIESa still spouts admin. jibberish. She's a well-trained bushbot, I'll say that for her.



(dozed off for a while-woke up to hear Feingold tearing Condi a new one)

[caligirl]

201. Voinobitch is on now, and no condi is not doing us some favor for coming

before congress to answer up for short comings and out and out failures,

[Skidmore]

202. Voinovich--What's up with this thanking her for being "willing"

to come before them to answer questions? It is required by law, I believe, for the Congress to approve her appointment. She has no choice, if she wants the job.

[caligirl]

204. King * speak for I am not afraid to brown nose the SOS

[grumpy old fart]

203. Yeah, Voinovich, all the trouble is cause * doesn't have enough money

[AlCzervik]

206. yeah but he wandered off the farm when he said

"We need to look at our tax policy" If i remember right he wanted much smaller tax cuts and the rnc ran some very nasty ads against him.

[paineinthearse]

216. "Wagner's music is better than it sounds" WTF?

With respect relations with Europe, Rice said "Wagner's music is better than it sounds".

This administration has an affinity with nazis.

[Mist]

207. OMG! CondaLIESa says

the tsunami was a wonderful opportunity for us to show compassion--it's "paid great dividends for us." GACK!!

[pdxmom]

211. Boxer is laying into her about it.

n/a

[loritooker]

219. Yeah Barabara!!!! She looks great, too.

[AlCzervik]

212. Boxer just dressed her down for that very comment!!!!

[LibDemAlways]

213. Even for the BFEE, that's a new low.

175,000 people die and all they care about is getting some good PR out of it. There are no words...

[Spazito]

221. That statement is the epitome of the bush admin policy....

tragedy, including 9/11, is an OPPORTUNITY. What a DISGUSTING thing to say and this from the person who will be point person on US diplomacy?

[caligirl]

208. public diplomacy is not your strength Condi, your a yes man, that

is your strength.

[caligirl]

210. BOXER!!!!!

[caligirl]

220. Searing comments and attack on the facts by Boxer!

[Catchawave]

209. What exactly has to happen for Condi not to be confirmed?

She's not ANSWERING questions, just running down the clock.

[realFedUp]

214. the bar is so much lower for Bushies

I guess you'd have to have five people
witness Ms. Rice either giving a blow job to Bush in
the Oval office or her killing someone
with witnesses other than the Bushies
watching.

Sorry, I am past cynical.

[beam me up scottie]

218. LMFAO!

of course, anyone they kill would automatically become a terrorist or an insurgent or an enemy combatant...

[blueblitzkrieg]

215. BOXER IS RIPPING INTO HER!!!

go barbara

[paineinthearse]

222. Boxer mentions "Fog of War"

http://www.sonyclassics.com/fogofwar/

If you have not seen this, get a copy ASAP.

[Catchawave]

217. Here comes the Boxer Rebellion....

..nailed her on that "tsunmai opportunity" ...you go girlfriend!!!

Scary that Condi will be in charge of such diplomacy.

[realFedUp]

223. I hope we see this in print....in mainstream newspapers. n/t

[caligirl]

225. Pay day is Friday, time to support Boxer's PAC

[Greybnk48]

227. Put it in the record Barbara!! n/t

[Geek_Girl]

224. Boxer is my new hero!

Calling it like it is! Condi is nothing more than a big liar!!!

[beam me up scottie]

228. makes me wish I was a lesbian.

[Mist]

226. Good for Boxer! She's calling CondaLIESa on that tsunami remark

"You use the word "opportunity......this has been a great disaster." Now Boxer's moving on to Iraq. "You mention Iraq only indirectly and only in response to questioning. You never mention the 1300 American fatalities." Boxer asks if CondaLIESa has ever seen "The Fog of War." Boxer: "Al-Qaida has expanded into 60 countries after we went to Iraq." Boxer: "There was no Al-Qaida in Iraq until after we went to Iraq." Boxer making all the points that need to be made, about Condi, and administration. Boxer: We have to question a war not based on the truth....those of us in the highest positions of gov't must be held accountable. (There's the "A" word again--good for Boxer for grabbing it and running with it!)

[Greybnk48]

229. Boxer is establishing a pattern

of gratuitous lies by this admin. How can they trust anything they say--especially Condi?

[Geek_Girl]

230. Barbara is establishing a pattern of LIES

From a Liar!!!

[caligirl]

231. tried to call her DC office and her SFO office, both lines very busy.

[Geek_Girl]

232. I hope it's the press

Maybe this will light a fire in the media. But I doubt it.

[underpants]

233. I thought Condi was going to cry- INTEGRITY?!??!

What integrity?

[Geek_Girl]

235. Condi is trying to spin her Lies

But Barbara is pounding her lying ass!!!!!!!!

:bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce:

[underpants]

241. Link to Bush's AEI laundry list speech 2/28/03

http://www.aei.org/news/newsID.16197/news_detail.asp

[LibDemAlways]

243. Apparently nothing makes a pathological

liar like Condi more uncomfortable than being called out. Thank you, Barbara, for ripping her a new one.

[loritooker]

234. Go Boxer! I love her!

[beam me up scottie]

236. Funny it takes a women to demonstrate to men how to have balls

and use them!

[loritooker]

238. LOL!!

[caligirl]

Yes and I just got through to the DC office and they are taking your

comments seriously. Call them they are keeping track of this. And Condi is more like * every day.

[mhr]

250. On Hold With Senator Boxers Office Now - Waiting To Praise Her

For criticizing Condi and holding her feet to the fire.

[JohnOneillsMemory]

247. Despite that Harvard president being an asshole, the brains of women

and men ARE different in important ways as a result of biological division of labor and the resulting socialization that reinforces it.

I conclude that women are more socially evolved, complex, sophisticated, smarter-whatever you want to call it.

They seem to have a keener sense of the integrity of human interaction and they are usually the whistleblowers when corruption an incompetence threatens group safety.

The 'gender gap' in polling on issues of war and the family bear this out.

I have my own theories that are based on evolution but I don't want to get flamed by knee-jerk sexism from either gender.

Simply put, women are 'smarter' because they HAVE to be for survival.
and men are 'dumber' because they HAVE to be for the same reason.

Now we are evolving as socialized animals to the point where division of labor between killing and nurturing is no longer required for survival and is instead a threat to it. IMHO.

I sincerely believe that only women can save us from the wars of men.

[beam me up scottie]

255. wow. I like you.

You've obviously put a lot of thought into this-should make for an excellent debate another time.

[JohnOneillsMemory]

237. Damn-missed some of Boxer. Condi impugns her OWN integrity!

[loritooker]

240. Tweety's already talking about it.

[cthrumatrix]

248. Tweety ..... a guy who REFUSES to call out Rice for her LIES

[Spazito]

239. Wow! Barbara Boxing is AWESOME!!

She nailed the liar over and over again, she never backed down! I can't wait for the second round of questioning from Boxer, it should be stunning!

[Catchawave]

242. Whew....I need a recess too...

...that was the most exciting I've ever seen on CSPAN....let the calls begin!

Boxer is AMAZING :)

[Mist]

245. Oh, poor CondaLIESa!

To Boxer: "I hope you're not impugning my integrity." (after Boxer pointed out that CondaLIESa contradicted herself, the admin., and various reports re:reasons for going to Iraq). Boxer: "I'm just pointing out how you've contradicted yourself." CondaLIESa looks wounded and says again she doesn't want her integrity quetstioned.


Condi, the very word "integrity" in your mouth should make your head explode!

[beam me up scottie]

246. Yes, how dare she question anyone in this administration after

* said they don't need to be held accountable!
the nerve...

[loritooker]

256. Please call Boxer--DC is jammed, but call your nearest office, or e mail!

[loritooker]

258. Oops-not intended as a reply to Beam Me Up. Sorry about that! nt

[caligirl]

249. Boxer number 202 224 3553 SFO 415 403 0100

[GreenPoet64]

251. Barbara I'm so proud! Go girl !

:toast: :toast: :toast: :toast: :toast:

[caligirl]

253. I told them she Is So Brave! call, we've got your back Barbara!!

[robbedvoter]

252. Condi dear: it's not a "discussion" - it's a HEARING - and whether you

are happy to be there is irrelevant, you POS!

[imax2268]

254. here ya go...

*SMACK* here's some accountability that you keep talking about...

*SMACK**SMACK**SMACK**SMACK**SMACK**SMACK*

How's that taste Condi...!

[caligirl]

259. Boxer didn't have to call Condi a liar, just using her own words did it!!

[Deb]

261. Sen Boxer showed Condi unfit for Sec. of State

and it's all under oath on record. To all her constituents, thanks for electing a wonderful Senator.

[Freddie Stubbs]

262. Do you think that she has convinced many other Senators?

:shrug:

[Roland99]

263. "This is their fight"

WTF?


It's not the Iraqis' fight. Well, it is *now* that we invaded their country and caused this problem.

[E_Smith]

266. Condi knows nothing about foreign economic policy

she was grilled about the dollar vs the euro, trade deficits, and foreign ownership of debt and all she does over and over is say "we must promote a level playing field".

[E_Smith]

267. Dodd hammers Condi on torture--she pulls a gonzo

she won't condemn torture

Dodd: "I am troubled by your answer."

Tells her to speak with McCain about "these activities."

[underpants]

268. !!!!Watch out for George Allen's Jedi mind tricks!!!!

:bounce:

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