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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 09:40 AM
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Bush Rewarded by Black Pastors' Faith
His stands, backed by funding of ministries, redefined the GOP's image with some clergy.

By Peter Wallsten, Tom Hamburger and Nicholas Riccardi, Times Staff Writers


MILWAUKEE — Bishop Sedgwick Daniels, one of this city's most prominent black pastors, supported Democrats in past presidential elections, backing Bill Clinton and Al Gore.

This fall, however, the bishop's broad face appeared on Republican Party fliers in the battleground state of Wisconsin, endorsing President Bush as the candidate who "shares our views."

What changed?

After Bush's contested 2000 victory, Daniels felt the pull of a most powerful worldly force: a call from the White House. He conferred with top administration officials and had a visit in 2002 from the president himself. His church later received $1.5 million in federal funds through Bush's initiative to support faith-based social services.

more: http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/politics/la-na-faith18jan18,1,5004035.story
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atommom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 09:42 AM
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1. When will people wake up?
* does NOT "share their views." He's just throwing money and platitudes at them. :argh:
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 09:50 AM
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7. Money buys alot of faith. The Puritans left Britain because they couldn't
practice their religion since their version of Christianity was not supported by the British government. This money comes with strings.
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Goldeneye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 09:44 AM
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2. How could he support Gore in 2000
Edited on Tue Jan-18-05 09:44 AM by Goldeneye
and then claim Bush shares his views now. Can you say wedge issue...I thougt clergymen were well educated.
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Missy M Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 09:46 AM
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4. I would guess the 1.5 million
was the deciding factor in sharing views.
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oneighty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 09:48 AM
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6. Money talks
God stuff walks.

Pieces of silver always wins.

180
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forintegrity Donating Member (449 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 09:45 AM
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3. whores!
all of 'em!
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 09:47 AM
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5. so he got a grant re: to NCLB--there was a thread last night on DU
about Milwaukee and the getting of the NCLB grants also.
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RoBear Donating Member (781 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 10:00 AM
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8. How do these people breathe
with their heads so far up their asses? Reminds me of Log Cabin Republicans, supporting the party that wants to make them illegal.
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realFedUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 11:46 AM
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9. This article is an important read....
"In 2003, the administration awarded more
than $1 billion to hundreds of faith based
groups, some of which hadn't received such
public funds in the past."

I don't know if these faith-based funds
are part of 501c3's or are just handed out
to the church to do with what they want...
anyone know? Are there audits on how
monies are spent?

I do take issue with the so-called Bush "values"
that black pastors are supporting (or hiding
behind to take the money). Blessing a gay
marriage is up to the church itself. Not giving
the same rights to gay couples as straight couples
is a civil rights decision and has nothing to do
with religion.

The Bush values of lying to get support for an
illegal invasion of a weaker country, along with
the value of killing over 100,000 innocents in
Iraq and Afghanistan aren't God's values.
The Bush values of rewarding those who break laws,
weaken the Constitution and loosen the rules of
a civilized world aren't God's values. Loosening
environmental laws to make it easier and cheaper
for businesses to pollute and leave their waste
behind is not God's value. The use of torture
and dehumanization of God's children is not only
ineffective but abhorent to God.

I don't see too many of God's values in this administration.
The pastors who accepted these taxpayer monies
should be ready with their accounting books open.
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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 12:10 PM
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10. praise the lawd...
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Cell Whitman Donating Member (872 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 12:51 PM
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11. We are being "naturally subjugated"...
Edited on Tue Jan-18-05 01:18 PM by Cell Whitman
This article should be pinned or highlighted somehow, this is about driving the final nail in our nation's democracy. It is rather blatant and a huge untold story. The Black Commentator and a few others have been watching this but the MSM hasn't a clue or is unwilling to speak the truth about what is going down. This article is the exception, though I have a criticism.

I am new here. First let me say that I believe there is a reason our country is going right, fascist and THEOCRATIC. There is a reason for this, it isn't a natural occurrence, it isn't happening as the result of the "free market" of ideas. There is a definite reason for our nation's political climate's direction. There IS a reason. You can find some my reasoning here:

http://cellwhitman.blogspot.com/

The LaTimes article authors did NOT expose, as it should have in an article of this sort, how involved the Grand Theocrat, Moon, and his organization have been in the republican's efforts to theocratize our nation. They mention him but he should have been a star in this report. The conservatives have used Moon to promote theo-world through the Faith Based deal. Moon used his ties to the republican party to put him in a position to recruit among black ministers. Bush, wittingly or not, is helping Moon put the finishing touches on what Moon calls "the natural subjugation of the American government and population."

Moon is currently doing something similar with the United Nations. He has been promoting that a theocratic body be added to the UN via a Philippines proposal. In Moon's vision the new UN body will be above the secular UN. Gorenfeld posted an article recently which says the UN has laughed at Moon's and another proposal to promote theocracy by the Iranians. The UN may well turn Moon down, but in the meantime they did pass a resolution which is allowing Moon to promote his ideas within the United Nations and recruit for his own "Peace" UN which he has started.

You can read and watch some of those efforts here:

http://www.iipeacecouncil.net/index.html and here

http://www.iifwp.org/

and here is the resolution which allows Moon recruit within the UN structure.

http://tinyurl.com/62wsl

This is from American's United and one of the must reads, imho. This is further to the mention of Moon in the article.

http://www.au.org/site/News2?page=NewsArticle&id=5684&abbr=cs_

Meanwhile, in Washington, D.C., U.S. Rep. J.C. Watts, the House Republican Conference Chairman, was issuing press releases noting that the GOP's "faith-based" summit would be viewed by satellite at events in over 45 cities.

But if invitees took the time to read the fine print on the flyers touting the local gatherings, they would have learned that the get-togethers were sponsored not directly by the Republican Party but on its behalf by a group called the American Leadership Conference (ALC).

Reading further, they would have found out that the ALC is a project of the American Family Coalition and The Washington Times Foundation both front organizations for the Rev. Sun Myung Moon, a controversial Korean evangelist and founder of the Unification Church. The "faith-based summit" itself was sponsored by Watts (R-Okla.), Sen. Rick Santorum (R-Pa.) and other top congressional Republicans, but efforts to promote it at the grassroots level were turned over to a Moon organization.

Why is the Republican Party working hand in glove with Moon front groups? The partnership stems largely from Moon's phenomenal ability to make inroads in GOP and Religious Right circles. Despite his unorthodox theological views Moon teaches that he is the new Messiah, sent by God to complete the failed mission of Jesus Moon has had little difficulty penetrating the upper echelons of American conservatism.

While a number of Republican-aligned private organizations have promoted President George W. Bush's religion funding scheme, only Moon won an official relationship with the Republican leadership to rally grassroots forces on behalf of the "faith-based" summit. This enhanced status enabled him to do grassroots political organizing and religious recruitment with the apparent blessing of Bush and his GOP allies in Congress.
..............

Frederick Clarkson, a journalist who has studied Moon and other far-right movements, notes that Moon specializes in the creation of "Astroturf organizations" – groups that appear to have grassroots power but that in reality speak mostly for Moon. Moon has used these groups to curry favor with Republicans for more than 30 years, Clarkson said, and is revving them up again to help the new Bush administration.

"Whenever the conservatives identify an issue as important to their agenda, Moon creates an Astroturf organization to create the appearance of grassroots support for these initiatives," Clarkson said.


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This is a link to the "We Will Stand" tour which was part of Moon's efforts to help Bush buy Black votes while promoting his theocratic dream. Moon traveled around declaring himself the messiah, handing out gold watches to bring in the crowds and having his back up people work with the ministers on how to promote/get funding under Bush's theocratization plan.

http://www.wewillstand.org/

All that said, I do not believe that Moon is in this for the money, not yet. Kind of like when they asked him if he was KCIA, he said he wasn't "that small" and he meant it. At this stage it is all about naturally subjugating our population to an Americanized theocracy. That is the goal - increased control, influence will be his reward for now. Moon just wants to be accepted as a legitimate player for he knows with his zealous and manipulated/trained followers that is all he needs for they, with his template, will take care of the rest.

There is also a reason Moon has been having himself crowned around the world, bedsides being old and wanting attention, he believes he has won. I don't doubt that, look around.


cell

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Cell Whitman Donating Member (872 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 02:45 PM
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16. the ACLC who pushed the FBI also pushes Moon's 'tear down the cross"
Edited on Tue Jan-18-05 03:04 PM by Cell Whitman
campaign. Moon says the cross is a divisive symbol which is keeping him uniting the world's religions.

from the AU article:
But if invitees took the time to read the fine print on the flyers touting the local gatherings, they would have learned that the get-togethers were sponsored not directly by the Republican Party but on its behalf by a group called the American Leadership Conference.

Gorenfeld discussed the ACLC in his recent Gadflyer article about the Bush's greetings to a group of Unification Church front groups. Find that here:

http://gadflyer.com/articles/?ArticleID=258

Here is a link to pictures of a Moon tear down the cross get together with three of Moon's top "priests" in Israel. http://tinyurl.com/55w55

There is George Stallings the defrocked Catholic priest who heads the ACLC, Micheal Jenkins who has a new title every other week and Mr. Yang. Mr. Yang is the guy who is officiating. Mr. Yang, a man who loves cameras, dressed like a Catholic priest for the photos when Moon was crowned at the Dirkson building last year.

Check this out and don't miss Gorenfeld's article.

Gorenfeld's article:

http://gadflyer.com/articles/?ArticleID=258

And yes, after a couple name changes, that is the Unification Church flag being put over the cross before Yang chunks dirt on it.

I don't know if Jesus likes the symbol of the cross or not. Bill Hicks used to say that a cross would be the last thing Jesus would want see when He returns. But to have Moon shoveling dirt on it, I find rather abhorrent.

Moon's priests bury the cross in Israel.

http://tinyurl.com/55w55

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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 03:25 PM
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20. Hope you repost this in a thread of its own.
Soon.
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tgnyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 01:12 PM
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12. 1.5 million reasons
to kneel and fellate junior so he can show how intimate his relations are with black America.
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Cell Whitman Donating Member (872 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 01:49 PM
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13. This is a HUGE story
They are just out and out using the Faith Biased Funding Scheme to buy votes, blatantly, in the open. Using tax dollars to supply the "theo" while Bush's cronies supply the "fascist"... theofascim. Bush doesn't give a damb about this initiative other than how it helps him maintain power.

Towey is a partisan hack. To have him involved with bilions of tax dollars is worse than a crime.

From the latimes article.

Administration record-keeping has made it difficult to track where the faith-based money has gone. ...

But from the bully pulpit of the White House faith office, Towey often advocated for the president's agenda with biting attacks against critics and, at least once, Sen. John F. Kerry, Bush's Democratic opponent in the 2004 election.

Kerry had laid out a detailed plan to expand faith-based funding, but Towey charged that the Massachusetts senator was under the thumb of "secular extremists" and would relegate the program "to the Smithsonian." At one taxpayer-financed White House conference in the midst of the campaign, Towey declared the faith program a flashpoint in the "culture war" between people of faith and the secular world.

A longtime observer and critic of federal faith-based efforts, Robert Wineburg, a professor of social work at the University of North Carolina at Greensboro, says the Bush initiative is as crassly political as any program he has seen.

"Look at where they planned their large-scale meetings," said Wineburg, who has written books on the politics of faith and social service and has worked as a consultant to religious charities. "A grant-writing workshop in St. Louis in September before Missouri was a lock, in Miami in October before Florida was sealed. I wouldn't call it honest technical assistance based on communities that needed that assistance most at that specific time. I'd call it honest American, or maybe old-style Chicago, politics."

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msgadget Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 01:57 PM
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14. "...Crassly political.." indeed!
The religiosity harnessed by the right is disturbing in the extreme]. Why is it so much evil is perpetrated in the name of god(s)?

The democrats have to reveal this agenda without pandering to those already swayed by it. There are enough wide awake people on both sides who don't buy into this and they can be reached with honesty and good policy.
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realFedUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 03:11 PM
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17. Welcome to DU Cell
and for all you posted...I'll check out your blog.
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GOPBasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 02:17 PM
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15. "shares our values"
such as unnecessary war killing tens of thousands, adding trillions of dollars to the national debt, destroying the environment for future generations, etc. Them's is sum good'ol valyas.
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realFedUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 03:14 PM
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18. and especially when minorities are the ones who are usually go to war
The black pastors ought to be lamenting and
protesting the lies of invasion and deaths of young men
and women who are bravely putting their bodies
in harm's way in war zones.
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GOPBasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 07:02 PM
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26. In fairness, most probably are. 86% of blacks voted for
Edited on Tue Jan-18-05 07:03 PM by GOPBasher
Kerry. We don't get those kind of numbers from any other demographic, not even homosexuals. But I agree, this one pastor has gone out of his mind.
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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 04:28 PM
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23. the Amstrong Williams retort....the money is good maaan, the money is good
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realFedUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 03:15 PM
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19. Walking around money....
When you can't account for all those millions, it's called WAM
in this administration.
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realFedUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 04:01 PM
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21. The whole Bush administration needs a huge audit
Money disappears down the rabbit holes in
this administration from defense to faith-based
monies etc. Whose job is it to keep the records,
demand accountability?
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tjdee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 04:15 PM
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22. Black people/other nontrad. Bush supporters need to be investigated.
I hate to say this, and I'm black besides, but we really need to take a look at black people who supported Bush to see if they were paid.

Same goes for other nontraditional Bush backers.

This guy, Armstrong Williams....who else?

And why isn't the media asking that question?
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NewYorkerfromMass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 05:06 PM
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24. I must cynically agree
It stands to reason that money is the means and method to the madness.
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okieinpain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 05:14 PM
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25. hahahahahahahahahahahahaha, isn't selling your soul a sin.
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