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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 10:19 AM
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2008 Presidential Election prediction:BOOKMARK THIS THREAD
Pull this out in about three years to see how right I am.

Jeb Bush will be the Republican candidate.

Hillary Clinton will be the Democratic candidate.

Just wait and see how right I am. I'm figuring the party elite of both parties already have made their choices.
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 10:22 AM
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1. Here's the infailible prediction: the BFEE candidate "won" - votes
already counted as of today, Jan 17, 2005. CEO of Diebold accepts the medal of freedom from BFEE whomever.
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ps1074 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 10:33 AM
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2. If JEB is the candidate
Then Hillay has no chance against him. From all the swing states she won't be able to carry a single southern state. Nor she will be able to carry FL, where Jeb will win at least 55% of the vote. This leaves us with OH again

</sigh>

Hillay won't be the dem nominee in 08 IMHO
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NewYorkerfromMass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 10:34 AM
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5. Kerry would beat Jeb.
You can bank that.
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NewYorkerfromMass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 10:34 AM
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3. John McCain is their one unbeatable candidate
If they were smart they'd run him. Nobody can beat him amongst any and all the Dems.
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StClone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 10:46 AM
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7. McCain may be their guy
But never underestimate BFEE (JebCo). Frist has no chance. McCain is not quite right in the head from my observations of him. I think the Right will go to McCain to try an moderate after a trip into Winger fantasy land with W.
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Dhalgren Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 10:34 AM
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4. I think you're right on.
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cybildisobedience Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 10:40 AM
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6. I don't doubt you either.
They effectively disarmed Rudy Guliani with the whole Kerik brouhaha (and does anyone think that it was an oversight on the part of the Bushies?).
The only other Repuke swimming around out there is Chuck Hagel, former owner of voting machine companies. He'll have to be dismantled in the primaries, which I'm sure the Bushies can adroitly handle between media slaughter, fixed voting machines and God knows what else.
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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 11:09 AM
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8. The Nepotism candidates.
Why can't we have candidates who aren't related to former presidents?
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 11:12 AM
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9. Much as I like Hillary, I don't see her running. She's smart enough
to know what a lightning rod she is for the repukes. We'd do better with someone relatively unknown, outside the senate. Any favorite governors out there?

After the next 4 years, I don't think anyone named Bush can run. Maybe one of the Bush nephews in 16 - 20 years.

Suprise repuke candidate? Ralph Reed?
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JoseRizal Donating Member (42 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 11:52 AM
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11. Some of you people are unbelievable with your hatred towards
Bush or anything related to the Bush Family. Consequently, it clouds our judgment with objective clear unbiased viewpoint. I know this is DU but as far as I am concern it does not only cater towards the very left of the party but to others like myself whose politics are more aligned towards progressive conservatism. As for Sen.Mccain he will be the nominee and as some other duers have pointed out he will be a winner for 2008 if not a landslide it will be a big enough margin to destroy once again the Democrats.

What I don't understand is that almost everyone here is convinced of Mccains(I might be wrong on my assumption so pardon me pls.)superiority and electability. Meaning if he wins by a landslide, a large majority of democrats will be voting for this man, question now why is that? He is suppoesed to be a Rino which is the enemy yet seems to pose on winning the Presidency.
Just like Reagan did in the 1980's I think Sen.John Mccain has that or will have that kind of appeal hes not a left wing liberal or a right wing conservative. From what I have seen read and observed on many many occasions Sen.Mccain comes off as avery sensible man with pragmatic approach to every issues. The senator exudes a likable character that will managed to swing large portions of the democrats to go vote Republicans.
I think frankly that it is much more prudent and beneficial for a politician whose views are moderate to be a Republican than a Democrat. Republican party for me seems to cater every branch of ideology in their party though they may project the aura of conservatism which can only play well with a moderate politicians like a Guliani or Hagel.The Republicans surprisingly is the party between the two national parties who are willing to reinvent itself by readily accepting people and politicians whom once were great democrats or leaned democratic.A case in point the former U.S. Pres.Ronald Reagan he was once an FDR democrat. Pres.Reagan brought on alot of Democrats to the Republican party that it nearly decapitated our party in 1980 elections.
I am going on here far too long that is only because I want to convey my dissatisfaction with some of the people on this site who are bent on making the great Democratic Party their party the party of left wing liberalism. Frankly speaking it should not be labelled as such it should be labelled as Democratic Socialist Party.This party has been lambasted from every angle every direction from all groups of people with different political viewpoint. I am afraid that if this party adapts itself or become a radical left then this party will become a party of ideology not a party for the people and by the people.
The United States of America and the majority of its people are not left wing thinking people that we can attest to as true based on the last elections of Pres.Nixon(2terms)Ford,Reagan(2terms)Pres.Bush 41 and Pres.George W.Bush. Some of you can argue the validity of his Presidency all you like but the fact of the matter is that Pres.Bush is in the White HOuse and not Pres.John Kerry. Heres one thing 3million votes may not be a mandate for some of the folks here but it is still a majority of votes for the Pres.Bush nothwithstanding the disputed Ohio state. After all it was and still the will of the people that voted this president into office wether you agree with it or not.
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GOPBasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 12:16 PM
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13. Can't imagine why I hate Bush so much.
He took a surplus as far as the eye could see and turned into an endless sea of red ink. Our treasury will go bankrupt by 2008, and let's see how much you like the President then.

He started a WAR on complete bullshit. Read my lips: that's lying. He lied, and thousands died.

He's destroying the environment. He's destroying freedom of religion by breaking down the wall between church and state.

Oh, and he STOLE his first term in office. And he probably stole this one, with help from his friends at Diebold. Sorry, but when you can't verify or audit the programming, there's no way you can say with certainty that he really won. The exit polls say otherwise. And if they were stealing votes with the programming, that can very well make up for the 3 million votes nationwide.
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zbdent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 11:37 AM
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10. Election? What election?
Doncha know there's a war on? Still ongoing in 2008?

You can't change horses in midstream, y'know. We're still fighting the war on terra!

If we hold elections, that will be a sign of weakness!

Remember the Supreme Court decision of 2007, after the terist attacks of 2006? The Supreme Court, having had several members replaced due to sudden "deaths", decided that the US was in a situation where we could not lift the red alert until all terrorists were caught and killed.

Remember the good old days where you could own a PC, and chat rooms were the last place of dissent once the newspapers were consolidated?
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PROGRESSIVE1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 11:56 AM
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12. I'll pass! I'd like to see Wesley Clark, Al Gore, or Mark Warner run.
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 01:05 PM
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15. I didn't say I agreed with it, for goodness sakes!
I'm just saying that's how the party elites in both parties will make certain it falls out.
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