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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 11:11 AM
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Can someone explain this Zephyr Teachout thing to me?
I've read the kos threads, and the one that was here earlier, but I'm still a little fogged on the issue. Teachout is Wonkette? She tossed out this 'bloggers get paid' story while the Armstrong Williams thing was heating up?

I guess what I am most confused about is her motivations, if there were any beyond being kinda tone-deaf. I have no dog in this hunt, but am curious. Thanks for the help.
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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 11:12 AM
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1. Teachout is "Zonkette", not "Wonkette." NT
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 11:14 AM
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3. Ah. OK.
That would have broken my brain.
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 11:13 AM
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2. I believe she started a blog called Zonkette.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 11:19 AM
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4. If you missed the apology of the WSJ reporter, I can share it.
The original reporter apologized that it was used after she had declared it a non-story. Laura Gross explained it at the blog.

Zephyr is on some kind of blogger conference on C-Span soon and wanted to draw attention to her site...most likely her motivation.

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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 11:26 AM
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5. Any links you have
would be appreciated.

P.S. Keep an eye on truthout tonight. Our fifth story as slotted is going to have a ton of Dean stuff. You'll probably have seen it already, but it'll all be under one link, so you can gun it around.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 11:41 AM
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8. Here is Laura's unofficial post at the blog.
I will find my post with all the links to various sites and post it.

From Laura Gross in the comments section
"I know many of you have questions so I wanted to give you the full story. I am sorry I have not responded sooner, I have been traveling all day with Gov. Dean and I'm in St. Louis now. Thank you for your messages and e-mails . . . here's the full story:

So I got a call Thursday from the Jeanne Cummings, The Wall Street Journal reporter who covered the Dean campaign. By all accounts, she did a fine job -- covered all aspects of the campaign, even met the Web team and wrote a long story on their work. She was calling, she said, on behalf of some of her paper's reporters in Boston who were looking into a story about the campaign and the blogs.

She said she thought she knew what was going on, and we talked "on background" so she could "just clear things up once and for all" -- that is, not for attribution. By the end of the conversation she had confirmed what she thought -- that there was no news, that this was what she called a "dead story" -- and said that she didn't think there would be any article at all, much less one that mentioned Dean. She said that if for some reason she needed a quote she'd call me back.

Next thing I know there appears in the WSJ an article so sloppy and so inaccurate that I spent the morning trying to track Jeanne down to find out what happened. She called me back at 10:30 a.m. -- and actually apologized for the article (written by two colleagues). She said that she wouldn’t work with those reporters in the same capacity again, would only give them on-the-record quotes and assured me that she had notified her editors.

Jeanne's colleagues committed a journalistic no-no: they took her background conversation with me and made up a quote from "a Dean spokeswoman". Their fake quote had this spokeswoman apparently admitting that the bloggers were paid for promoting the campaign. They completely mischaracterized our conversation -- and Jeanne was rightly upset about it. I was, and am, too.

Since a distorted version of the conversation has been put in print, I'll tell you what was told to Jeanne when she asked what the story was with the campaign and these bloggers.

I said that, as many media outlets noted at the time and a giant disclaimer on their blog said, these guys were hired as technical consultants. Specifically, they helped the Web team pick a technology platform for the blog (Movable Type) and helped manage Internet advertising (banner ads, Google ads, etc.). They weren’t paid to write content -- either for the campaign or on their own blogs. And just in case there was any ambiguity, the campaign made sure they had a notice saying "I am a paid consultant for Howard Dean" right smack on the front of their personal blogs.

The only people the campaign paid to write blog posts were full-time staff at headquarters who wrote the content here on Blog for America. They and the rest of the staff at headquarters were people who quit their jobs and upended their lives to work 100 hours a week for a campaign they believed in -- and frankly, compared to "normal" jobs, the campaign barely even paid them. Had the campaign been throwing around cash to people just to write nice things on blogs, there would have been a mutiny in Burlington.

The point was also made that, besides being not true, this kind of accusation is in fact the exact opposite of the truth. Hundreds of thousands of people gave their time, money and hearts to the Dean campaign; all they wanted in exchange was their country back. They organized in their communities and they organized online, and many of them blogged every minute of it.

Some people even made the trip to headquarters -- on their own dime. They stuffed envelopes by day and slept in motels or on someone's couch by night -- and they blogged that too. To suggest that there was some network of paid advocates, as some of the more irresponsible outlets have done, disrespects one of the best things to happen to our democracy in a generation.

Jeanne's colleagues not only misrepresented my conversation with her, they also made a sloppy and completely ridiculous analogy to the Armstrong Williams scandal -- an analogy that has been snapped up and repeated ad nauseum by both lazy journalists and the right-wing media machine.

Here's the deal: the campaign paid these guys with private funds to do work that did not include writing content or otherwise talking/writing about the campaign -- and widely disclosed the relationship at the time anyway, just in case. The Bush administration used taxpayer dollars to pay Williams to lace his commentary with praise for a certain policy -- and both the administration and Williams covered it up. Also, it appears that what they have done is illegal.

No journalist with any integrity would be writing about these things in the same story.

I don't think I've ever met Markos, and I've met Jerome, but only briefly -- if the blogs or the media want to debate with them or about them, they can go right ahead. But they can leave us out of it. Because when it comes to Howard Dean and his presidential campaign, this is exactly what the Wall Street Journal’s Jeanne Cummings called it as we hung up the phone: a dead story.

Posted by Laura Gross DFA at January 15, 2005 12:06 PM"
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Tandalayo_Scheisskopf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 11:26 AM
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6. Not very well.
Teachout is not Wonkette. Wonkette is Anna Marie Cox. Wonkette is also a stone hottie. As for Ms. Teachout, I cannot comment, as I have yet to see a picture. Wonkette, if her writings are indicative of the woman, is a Very Dirty Grrl. Bless her for that. As for Ms. Teachout, I do not know if her practices and fantasies have either been revealed or catalogued.

Ms. Teachout seems to have gotten a near-terminal case of "Cattleman's Disease"(Diarrhea of The Mouth) and inferred that Kos, Chris Bowers and Jerome Armstrong were being paid to blog on behalf of Dean. Now, while all three worthies were being paid as Netroots Consultants by the Dean Campaign, they were not blogging(kos, Bowers) or if they were blogging(Armstrong), they had taken a leave of absence from their normal bloggish climes and all three had fully disclosed more than once.

It seems that Ms. Teachout, in the heat of the Armstrong Imbroglio, wanted to get some for herself. Get hers. Get that name out. Intentional or not, giving ammo to the likes of Novakula or Boortz is not how to make friends in her political sphere. Unless her sphere has recenly enjoyed a remodeling.

Of course, the usual mouthbreathers and uncontrolled droolers of the right-wing punditry and 101st Fighting Keyboarders, looking frantically around for cover in the Armstrong Imbroglio, decided a nod was as good as a wink to a blind weasel and proceeded to beat that woefully innaccurate drum, to the point of doing the solo from "Inna Gadda da Vida".

Lesson: They are now after the blogs. They are going after the one unfettered source of criticism left in the larger medial world. No surprises there. We all know that they cannot tolerate any criticism whatsoever. No matter. Said worthies referenced above and many others are made of stern stuff and will weather the storm with style, flair, finnesse, elan' and savoir faire.
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 11:27 AM
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7. Ah
Hm.
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sarahlee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 11:46 AM
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10. Some of what you wrote is backwards
Edited on Tue Jan-18-05 11:49 AM by sarahlee
Kos kept blogging, but put told his community he had been hired by the Dean campaign for some technical consulting (he and Armstrong were asked to help with the programming for the Dean blog). Kos also put a note on his pages that said he was working for Dean.

Armstrong is the one who stopped blogging while being paid by the Dean campaign.

Don't know about Bowers.

Teachout must have wanted someone to know who she was before the conf. or she has a book coming out and wanted someone to buy it.

As there is absolutely no similarity to what Kos and Armstrong did to what Armstron Williams did, some think the Freeper puppetmasters paid her off to create a diversion.
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NewYorkerfromMass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 12:09 PM
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12. If they are really going after "the blogs" then good luck with that
you'd have an easier time picking up mercury in your hand.
They were really just trying to conflate the Armstrong Williams case with these very minor blog fees paid to known partisans.
You are right about Zephyr glomming onto the glory.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 11:45 AM
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9. Here is a thread I started with many links, twists and turns.
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realFedUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 12:03 PM
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11. Go to the sources
Talk to Kos and Zephyr.
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