Biden lectures Europe in confirmation hearings.

[rodeodance]

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.......Foreign Relations Committee Chairman Richard Lugar opened Tuesday's hearing with warm words about Rice, who has served a mostly behind-the-scenes role at the White House for the past four years. He called her "highly qualified'' for the post.

Biden also praised Rice, but noted that "relations with many of our oldest friends are quite frankly scraping the bottom right now.''

However, Biden also had blunt advice for European critics: "I have one simple message: Get over it. Get over it. President Bush is our president for the next four years. So get over it and start to act in your interest, Europe.''..........

[riverwalker]

1. "So get over it and start to act in your interest"

like you Joe? In other words, forget what is in the best interest for the planet or the nation, and just act for what's best for YOU. Like you licking bushcos butt. Joe, you protest just enough to cover yourself, but never enough to make any real change. The days of playing both sides are over. Today was the final test, and you failed.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

2. Biden would eat shit if it would get him on camera.

He is beyond worthless.

[Tinoire]

6. Biden's "surface" is mostly posturing & hot air for domestic consumption.

[Kahuna]

13. LOL! Talk about "lense-lice" .. If you look it up in the dictionary

there's a picture of Biden. :evilgrin:

[yurbud]

3. that's stunning--who are his donors?

That could explain his despicable behavior.

[PROGRESSIVE1]

4. Joe Biden is SHIT!

:puke:

[Donna Zen]

5. And yet

day after day those who chose to forget, suggest that we nominate Biden. OMG

Over a hundred thousand people dead because Joe Biden was lied to by bush--and he says to GET OVER IT.

[lebkuchen]

7. Viele Grüße aus Deutschland, Senator Biden

up yours

[Tinoire]

8. This is not new. Check the PNAC Biden. Lectured the EU in letter he signed

The last PNAC letter... Signed by none other than mighty Joe Biden himself.

:puke:

What arrogance. Open letter to the heads of the EU indeed!!!! :puke:

Letter of 100 on Democracy in Russia, September 28, 2004

An Open Letter to the Heads of State and Government
Of the European Union and NATO

September 28, 2004

As citizens of the Euro-Atlantic community of democracies, we wish to express our sympathy and solidarity with the people of the Russian Federation in their struggle against terrorism. The mass murderers who seized School No. 1 in Beslan committed a heinous act of terrorism for which there can be no rationale or excuse. While other mass murderers have killed children and unarmed civilians, the calculated targeting of so many innocent children at school is an unprecedented act of barbarism that violates the values and norms of our community and which all civilized nations must condemn.

At the same time, we are deeply concerned that these tragic events are being used to further undermine democracy in Russia. Russia's democratic institutions have always been weak and fragile. Since becoming President in January 2000, Vladimir Putin has made them even weaker. He has systematically undercut the freedom and independence of the press, destroyed the checks and balances in the Russian federal system, arbitrarily imprisoned both real and imagined political rivals, removed legitimate candidates from electoral ballots, harassed and arrested NGO leaders, and weakened Russia's political parties. In the wake of the horrific crime in Beslan, President Putin has announced plans to further centralize power and to push through measures that will take Russia a step closer to authoritarian regime.

We are also worried about the deteriorating conduct of Russia in its foreign relations. President Putin's foreign policy is increasingly marked by a threatening attitude towards Russia's neighbors and Europe's energy security, the return of rhetoric of militarism and empire, and by a refusal to comply with Russia's international treaty obligations. In all aspects of Russian political life, the instruments of state power appear to be being rebuilt and the dominance of the security services to grow. We believe that this conduct cannot be accepted as the foundation of a true partnership between Russia and the democracies of NATO and the European Union.

These moves are only the latest evidence that the present Russian leadership is breaking away from the core democratic values of the Euro-Atlantic community. All too often in the past, the West has remained silent and restrained its criticism in the belief that President Putin's steps in the wrong direction were temporary and the hope that Russia would soon return to a democratic and pro-Western path. Western leaders continue to embrace President Putin in the face of growing evidence that the country is moving in the wrong direction and that his strategy for fighting terrorism is producing less and less freedom. We firmly believe dictatorship will not and cannot be the answer to Russia's problems and the very real threats it faces.

The leaders of the West must recognize that our current strategy towards Russia is failing. Our policies have failed to contribute to the democratic Russia we wished for and the people of this great country deserve after all the suffering they have endured. It is time for us to rethink how and to what extent we engage with Putin's Russia and to put ourselves unambiguously on the side of democratic forces in Russia. At this critical time in history when the West is pushing for democratic change around the world, including in the broader Middle East, it is imperative that we do not look the other way in assessing Moscow's behaviour or create a double standard for democracy in the countries which lie to Europe's East. We must speak the truth about what is happening in Russia. We owe it to the victims of Beslan and the tens of thousands of Russian democrats who are still fighting to preserve democracy and human freedom in their country.




Urban Ahlin Madeleine K. Albright Giuliano Amato

Uzi Arad Timothy Garton Ash Anders Aslund

Ronald D. Asmus Rafael L. Bardaji Wladyslaw Bartoszewski

Arnold Beichman Jeff Bergner Joseph R. Biden

Carl Bildt Max Boot Ellen Bork

Pascal Bruckner Mark Brzezinski Reinhard Buetikofer

Janusz Bugajski Michael Butler Martin Butora

Daniele Capezzone Per Carlsen Gunilla Carlsson

Ivo Daalder Massimo D'Alema Pavol Demes

Larry Diamond Peter Dimitrov Thomas Donnelly

Nicholas Eberstadt Uffe Elleman-Jensen Helga Flores Trejo

Francis Fukuyama Jeffrey Gedmin Bronislaw Geremek

Carl Gershmann Marc Ginsberg Andre Glucksmann

Phil Gordon Karl-Theodor von und zu Guttenberg

Istvan Gyarmati Pierre Hassner Vaclav Havel

Richard C. Holbrooke Toomas Ilves Bruce Jackson

Donald Kagan Robert Kagan Craig Kennedy

Penn Kemble Glenys Kinnock Bernard Kouchner

Jerzy Kozminski Ivan Krastev William Kristol

Girts Valdis Kristovskis Ludger Kuehnhardt Mart Laar

Vytautas Landsbergis Stephen Larrabee

Mark Leonard Sabine Leutheusser-Schnarrenberger

Tod Lindberg Tom Malinowski

Will Marshall Margarita Mathiopoulos

Clifford May John McCain Michael McFaul

Matteo Mecacci Mark Medish Thomas O. Melia

Sarah E. Mendelson Michael Mertes Ilir Meta

Adam Michnik Richard Morningstar Joshua Muravchik

Klaus Naumann Dietmar Nietan James O'Brien

Janusz Onyszkiewicz Cem Ozdemir Can Paker

Mark Palmer Martin Peretz Friedbert Pflueger

Danielle Pletka Florentino Portero Samantha Ravich

Janusz Reiter Alex Rondos Jim Rosapepe

Jacques Rupnik Eberhard Sandschneider

Randy Scheunemann Christian Schmidt

Gary Schmitt Simon Serfaty Stephen Sestanovich

Radek Sikorski Stefano Silvestri Martin Simecka

Gary Smith Abraham Sofaer James Steinberg

Gary Titley Ivan Vejvoda Sasha Vondra

Celeste Wallander Ruth Wedgood Richard Weitz

Kenneth Weinstein Jennifer Windsor R. James Woolsey

http://www.newamericancentury.org/russia-20040928.htm

[Generator]

9. Of course he is technically correct

Bushscum is around for four more years(if no one is brave enough and works hard enough to have him exhiled).

But that's not the point. People react reactively to you telling them "Get over it." It just pisses them off instinctively because you are saying their ideas and feelings don't matter at all. So even if it's in your "best interest" anybody with a soul would yell back, "go fuck yourself."

Is this basic psychology so hard to understand? Jeez.

[ClarkUSA]

10. Isn't Biden dying to run in 2008?

What a career pol. He was one of Kerry's much-touted top advisors, too.

Figures.

[truebrit71]

11. Hey Joe...get over this....!!!

*displays middle digit*

[seabeyond]

12. anyone who didnt hear this on your own, just listening to what

others are saying, i would suggest you listen to what biden had to say. cause though i heard the same words, adn many many other words biden said, i did not take it the way this thread is implying biden stated.

i dont think he was lecturing europe. i think he was lecturing bush throughout his statement, and this was him saying what repugs have been saying for a couple years to us now. for me, he sounded like he was being snotty to rice, not to europe.

so if you have an opportunity i would hope you would listen for yourself.

[Dave Reynolds]

14. Since November 3

I have gotten very very fucking sick of hearing "get over it".