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ringmastery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 07:06 PM
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What happens to Dean if he places second in NH?
He still has lots of money, but where would he win afterward? Does he have to win to remain viable? Would second be the kiss of death?
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arewethereyet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 07:07 PM
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1. he must win
and convincingly to retake the democratic end of the democratic party
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 07:07 PM
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2. They will say
he's losing support but has enough money and campaign support to continue.
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sangha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 07:08 PM
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He'll be super-sizing your lunch
if he doesn't take NH
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ShaneGR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 07:08 PM
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3. He's finished... and he doesn't have that much money.
He'll get massacred in the south by Edwards and/or Clark.

The Dean camp spent a fortune in Iowa, while they're not close to broke they no longer have a commanding money lead.

It's do or die time next week, his troops desperately need a boost.
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rbrussell Donating Member (42 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 07:11 PM
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6. No, Not at All
I think that Dean made clear yesterday that he was going to wage a national campaign. The primaries move so quickly this year that we can afford to lose in New Hampshire.

The real targets are the states that he rattled off- New York, California, etc.

This isn't going to be over quick.
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LuminousX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 07:09 PM
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4. Nothing. A 2nd place finish would be pretty good.
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jsw_81 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 07:46 PM
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12. A second-place finish would be devastating
Dean's entire strategy hinges on a big win in New Hampshire.
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 07:11 PM
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5. He's still in the race....
But he would have to win somewhere in the next primary afterwards.
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Jackson Smith Donating Member (134 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 07:12 PM
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7. Depends on who wins NH. If Kerry wins NH, Dean is DONE.
If it's a dark horse like Clark or Lieberman, Dean could still be viable. Kerry winning both Iowa and NH would be the end of the Dean campaign I'd think.
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funky_bug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 07:13 PM
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8. Depends on who he beats out
If he slams the coffin on Clark or Edwards, then he's taken a strong second. If he slams the coffin on Dean, then he's going to emerge as a very viable candidate against Bush. But if Dean slams the coffin on Kerry, then the game is on, and IA goes *poof*.
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David__77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 07:18 PM
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9. I think he can win CA, that's all I know.
It's winner take all here, and it's one-fourth the needed delegates. I'll be working for him. It's entirely possible to have him be the nominee even without a majority of the delegates. There's no reason not to vote one's conscienice in this race.
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The Magistrate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 07:20 PM
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10. If Gov. Dean Does Not Win New Hampshire, He Is Through
Even if he wins there, it will be greatly devalued in analysis, because he is a local figure, and he will get only a short lease on life by it. He will not do well in the next, multi-state round of primaries, featuring southern and south-western states, and will not last credibly beyond them. It will probably take him a little longer to admit it.
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jsw_81 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 07:45 PM
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11. He'll go home to Vermont
There is no way he will survive a second-place finish in New Hampshire.
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DoveTurnedHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 07:49 PM
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13. I Think He'll Be OK If He Takes Second in NH
He's only out if he takes third or worse.

Taking first, however, would re-establish him as a credible threat.

DTH
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knight_of_the_star Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 07:54 PM
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14. Depends on who beats him
If either Kerry or Clark beat him, then put a fork in him he's DONE. If Kerry wins then considering how Kerry fells towards the back of the pack up until yesterday then he will shut Dean down. If Clark does that will hurt just as much considering that NH is Dean's backyard, he's been saying he will nab the state, and that will hurt him, though not as much as if it was Kerry, but it will put those two men in the front and center of the race.
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Feanorcurufinwe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 07:55 PM
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15.  A close second would be a minor setback.
A distant second a bit worse.
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