I don't know what all of you were talking about

[Mass_Liberal]

I watched the speech. It was excellent. He was a bit hoarse, but that aside it was one of the best speeches he's ever made. Very very stirring and it completely revitalized me when I was down after Iowa. We can do it! How can we fail with such an awesome guy as our candidate?

[DoveTurnedHawk]

1. People See Things Differently, Depending on Their Inclinations

You like Dean, so you like the speech. I dislike Dean, so I dislike the speech.

The question is how all of the millions of undecided voters will feel about the 13-second snippet of the speech they definitely heard some time last night or today. And the overwhelming responses of those people have been laughter, mockery, apprehension and just plain creeped-out.

DTH

[EllieDem]

2. Like I just said in another thread

Dean is damn lucky that Saturday Night Live is a rerun this weekend

[Mass_Liberal]

5. ah hehehehehahha

that was stupid.

[Mass_Liberal]

3. so he was hoarse

big effing deal. I can appreciate good speeches that othr candidates make, even ones I don't like. That speech was good, man.

[damnraddem]

16. I thought it was good, but ...

too repetitive, too much clutching for words, and went on too long. It could have been better; but let's face it, it was a tough venue.

[Jackson Smith]

20. Hoarse? He was screaming like an idiot. <nm>

[Mass_Liberal]

26. absolutely

I completely agree. I mean, in this day and age, a hint of passion is paramount to being a lunatic. If he isn't a quiet wuss, he doesn't belong in Democratic politics, does he?

[bigwillq]

4. We can't fail

Not only by Dean but by the other candidates. What a superb group. AS a Dean supporter, I thought the speech was great and the Dr. deserves a break. It was passionate, spontaneous, and sincere.

[EllieDem]

7. oh puleeeze

If this were a Bush* speech you Dean supporters would be laughing your heads off and you know it. I understand how you are trying to cover up for your guy - but at least be honest about it and don't blame the media. He did that one all alone. However, I think in the end it could get him some sympathy if the media plays it up TOO much.

[DoveTurnedHawk]

8. Great Point...If This Was a Bush Speech, We'd Be Crucifying Him Right Now

I am trying to picture him doing this. I can't do it. That's how unusual the outburst was, IMO.

DTH

[bigwillq]

9. i agree about your point about Bush

and I'm not blaming the media. Dean said it and I shouldn't have to cover up for him. but some people in DU and I'm sure other people across the country are making too much of a big deal about it.
Congrats to you and other kerry supporters on the win in Iowa.

[lastknowngood]

14. Bush can't compleate a sentance so what's the chance

n/t

[damnraddem]

17. We don't need this.

What you say is not true of the speech. But what we don't need is this interpretation according to who we support. We need both: 1) to pull together as Dems, and 2) to fairly evaluate what goes and what doesn't from any Dem.

[Mass_Liberal]

23. No, you are wrong.

If it were Bush I would be suprised at his sudden change of domestic agenda and eloquence. I'm not covering up. I didn't blame the media for anything. I think it was a good thing.

[TexasSissy]

6. I'll meet you around the corner! Around the block!

And roll up your sleeves! It was just funny, that's all. Nothing personal, but it just didn't come off well. Like sometimes a comedian's jokes don't work. It happens.

[bigwillq]

10. i agree. the speech had good intentions

to rally his supporters, to show how passionate he is about still improving America but yes it didn't come off well

[molly]

11. That awesome guy - as mr and mrs america views it -

would be in charge of their children's future - he would be the guy with his finger on the "button". You probably have no idea what the 50's and 60's were like concerning the "button", but take my word - they won't be voting for him. They saw a man "outta control" and belligerent - not their idea of a leader.

[KFC]

12. If that was one of his best speaches, he is done

He popped a nut live in front of a national audience. The ranting hothead image does not serve him well.

[EllieDem]

13. Heck, to be fair, if I were going on probably 4 hours of sleep

a night and shaking a million hands all day and giving interviews galore....who KNOWs what I'd do after that devastating loss. None of us knows that kind of pressure.

[molly]

15. Well, he should have thunk about the brass ring and bit his

tongue or whatever. The prize was too great. Thank goodness for many - they got to see what they would have bought.

[Mass_Liberal]

24. congrats on the victory

and p.s

might you be a little more tactful next time. I don't know. There is just somthing about the way you phrase the "devastating loss" that feels a bit akin to rubbin' salt into the wound.


If kerry loses in NH. I promise you I won't go over to Kerry supporters and say "Wow, I feel your pain. And it must be immense right now. WOW!! You really got walloped. That must be simply devastating"

[Le Taz Hot]

18. There was nothing wrong with it

but the media whores have been given their marching orders: "Finish him off." And isn't it nice all these "Democrats" are so accommodating.

[Skip Intro]

19. exactly

and exactly

[Dookus]

21. sorry... but it was

obvious here last night that something big had happened with that speech, and we knew it before the media had a chance to comment on it. Within minutes of his "yeeaargh", there was a thread here that quickly grew >100 posts - all before any media could comment on it.

If you're not a Dean supporter, the speech was simply bizarre.

[Mass_Liberal]

25. the only thing that proves is that

people can be very stupid. A man can be hoarse, or make a funny noise, and he gets as much attention as Rick Santorum making an anti-gay slur. Wow, that really proves our unity and singular focus on the issues and a positive vision for America.

[Sly Kal]

22. Clark/Dean

Or Dean/Clark would be okay too. I thought his speech was very good. He wasn't angry and he wasn't out of control.