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minkyboodle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 07:37 PM
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Kucinich dropping out (If You listen to the lazy DC local news)
Just wanted to drop a note to those interested in DK's campaign. I was eating dinner tonight and had the Washington DC local news (ABC 7 WJLA) and they were doing a wrap up of the Iowa race. I can't remember the words but I'm positive that they basically said Kucinich was done and was going to throw his support to John Edwards. Now I'm a big Kucinich guy and I like Edwards but this isn't true. As you all know the Iowa deal was a one time thing for that caucus to try to maximize both candidates success. Its really frustrating, its not enough that the local news completely ignore him but now apparently he's dropping out (even though I just got a campaign email that didn't jibe with that). argghh I sent an email asking for a retraction but I'm not holding my breath. Wish I had the damn thing on tape. If you want to let them know the website is http://www.wjla.com there is an online form there.
Scott
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goodhue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 07:40 PM
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1. yeah
They are not alone in getting this wrong. Its Congressman Gephardt that dropped out. This politics stuff is so confusing, particularly for journalists who can't think for themselves. But rest assured DK is in for the long haul!

Kucinich: This Will Go to Convention
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
January 19, 2004

Democratic Presidential Candidate Dennis Kucinich had been showing at 3 percent in the polls in Iowa, but topped 15 percent or more in many precincts in order to win 1.3 percent of the total delegates. Had he failed to top a surprising 15 percent, Kucinich would have finished with zero delegates as expected. The polls did little better at predicting the results for the other candidates in the Iowa caucuses, and tonight's results may have raised more questions than they answered about the final outcome of the Democratic nominating process.

"This is the beginning of the campaign," said Kucinich. "We've got 49 states left to go. The media had long ago predicted the winner of the entire process and even the loser of the general election, and tonight's caucuses have the pundits scratching their collective scalps in bewilderment. I moved from ninth place to fifth and won delegates despite the 15 percent threshold.

"The longtime poll leader dropped to third, which some pundits are erroneously crediting to Dr. Dean's status as an anti-war candidate. Dr. Dean did not consistently oppose the initial stages of this war and he has said that he will keep our troops in Iraq for years.

"As I climb higher in New Hampshire and each successive state, and as the situation in Iraq continues to worsen, Democratic support for peace will be reflected in my campaign's success. I predict a brokered convention in July. By the end of this month my campaign will have raised over $10 million, including matching funds, and I'm just getting started.

"As part of my strategy in the Iowa caucuses, I worked out an arrangement with Senator Edwards that may have allowed each of us to pick up a few more delegates. Our supporters, of course, ultimately chose their own courses of action. But none were left with their only strategic choice being leaving their caucus and going home. John and I are friends and I wish him the best. But we have 49 states left to go, and we're each on our own."

For more information: http://www.kucinich.us

For Congressman Kucinich's Schedule: http://www.kucinich.us/schedule.htm.

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robsul82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 08:13 PM
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2. He might be doing just that...
Seriously, I have this vision of DK going all the way to the convention with about four delegates and bongo players following him all the way out the door.

I just hope he gets out before the convention.

Later.

RJS
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minkyboodle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 08:20 PM
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3. I'll take bongos over last night's......
YEEEEEAAAHHHAHAHAHAHAAH moment.

Scott
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robsul82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 08:28 PM
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9. Would you take our poll numbers in NH?
Oh, I knew ya would. ;)

Later.

RJS
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youngred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 08:23 PM
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4. thanks for playing
How's Dean today? sorry low blow, but its that kind of attitude that made him make the deal with edwards

shame you didn't learn anything
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Sly Kal Donating Member (248 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 08:26 PM
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7. Plain old dirty politics
Kucinich is a politician same as everyone else.
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robsul82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 08:27 PM
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8. Amen.
Saint Dennis is a *CRIMINEY!* politician, just like EVERYONE else. I know it's a shock to those with bongos, but eh.

Later.

RJS
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youngred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 08:34 PM
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12. You exemplify the worst of the Dean campaign
no one said he wasn't a politician, but he is a lot more honest, fair, and straightforward than anyone in this race (the bleoved gov included) and almost all of capitol hill.

much later I hope
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robsul82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 08:37 PM
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14. Awwwww.
Please. Kucinich should be deified, if I hear DUers and his supporters I've had to deal with out there correctly. And he's a dealmaker, just like EVERYONE else. Shocker.

Later.

RJS
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youngred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 08:39 PM
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17. your point is what exactly?
besides jealousy that we went to Edwards rather than Dean?
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robsul82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 08:39 PM
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18. My point is stop crying.
As the Governator says, "You need discipline!" :nopity:

Later.

RJS
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youngred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 08:53 PM
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22. My point stop bitching
and do something positive instead of alienating people
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minkyboodle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 08:46 PM
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19. couldn't agree more
leave it alone youngred, I'm already ashamed of my earlier response but the poster caught me at a bad moment.
SCott
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youngred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 08:29 PM
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11. HARDLY dirty politics
Dean is not a liberal, Dennis is.

Edwards is not a liberal, but he's a helluva lot closer on a lot of more important issues than Dean is.

Dean treated Kucinich horribly, and so did his supporters.

But then I imagine buying Carol Mosley-Braun out of the race was clean and above ground and good right?
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jonnyblitz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 08:29 PM
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10. now I understand youngred
re: what we discussed in our PM exchanges.
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youngred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 08:37 PM
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15. Thanks
you've restored my faith in the many over the few on the issue.
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 08:23 PM
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5. Lazy is right
That's an echo of the misrepresentation that came out on Monday about the Edwards deal. They blew the story.
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Sly Kal Donating Member (248 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 08:23 PM
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6. Edwards and Kucinich
Obviously an odd couple. It was all politics of course, but Edwards got the better of that deal.
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youngred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 08:36 PM
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13. look at the facts
Edwards has a very good liberal record on a lot of issues
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Shakespeare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 08:37 PM
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16. Actually, it made complete sense if you heard Kucinich a few months ago
He was on the daily show, and Stewart asked him which of the other candidates he liked best. Without hesitation, Kucinich said "Edwards." He went on to say they had a lot in common, and enjoyed talking with each other.

At the time, I thought "how odd." But last night's move made sense in context of the earlier statement.
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genius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 08:46 PM
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20. I saw that. Also, it is clear that Kucinich has had a profound effect
on Edwards's positions on the issues. THese are the two nice guys in the campaign.
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MrMonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 08:53 PM
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21. I heard this on Saturday morning radio
as *speculation*. I'm sure that if it was confirmed, we would all have heard so by now.
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