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EVDebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-19-05 09:02 PM
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So when was the last time "Privatization" worked ? Energy in CA
was a real fiasco; I heard they even wanted to privatize sewage treatment plants...Prisons, now there's a winner. Water systems is another big target I'm hearing about. Foreign companies owning US water systems without much public oversight.

In fact at the turn of the century most 'Railroad commissions' were set up just because private enterprise couldn't be relied upon to look out for the public's interests.

Comment please. Is SS privatization going to carry with it HUGE penalties if things don't go right ? Why bother with it in the first place, just raise the income cap of $90,000 on SS right now ?
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politicaholic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-19-05 09:06 PM
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1. I dumped a loud mouth girl last month so I could "privatize" my sex life.
It worked pretty damn well.
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-19-05 09:28 PM
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2. Exactly!
When was the last time privatization/deregulation improved anything? By improvement, I mean:

1. Increases "choice" for consumer/client
2. Lowers prices
3. Encourages small businesses to get involved
4. Encourages lucrative investment opportunities

Dos anyone know of such a sector? The airlines? Power companies? Communications companies? Hospitals? Anything???
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johncoby2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-19-05 09:37 PM
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3. Trash collection in Houston
Prices doubled.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-19-05 10:00 PM
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4. Fire department in Scottsdale. Arizona was a miserable failure.
Voted to put it back into city government recently. Response times had slowed and it was costing more, firefighters were very unhappy and campaigned hard to get it back into public sector.
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cattleman22 Donating Member (356 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-05 06:33 PM
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7. Airline deregulation has resulted in much cheaper fares. n/t
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Nederland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-19-05 10:08 PM
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5. California's Energy market wasn't "privatized"
Anyone who thinks it was needs to do some research.
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EVDebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-05 05:40 PM
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6. That's right, deregulated and sourced to the highest bidders
Edited on Thu Jan-20-05 05:41 PM by EVDebs
so that 'gaming' (or privatizing profits to Enron et al) could occur. Meyer Lansky kept the mafia in business all these years by keeping 'skim' to a minimum of 15%...in CA's energy monopoly days, PG&E and the other regulated companies were guaranteed a 12% profit, and little ol ladies and the stock market could go to the bank on that year after year after year. Then greed got in the way: privatization and deregulation.

Wall Street and The Economist magazine sold the politicians on the coming natural gas economy. It came, and the result was chaos.
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gfr4656 Donating Member (92 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-05 06:35 PM
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8. they privatized soc. sec. in
england. don't know any hard facts, but i heard it didn't work to well.
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