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Bush_Eats_Beef Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-19-05 10:24 PM
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GREAT news, boys & girls! MSNBC said the country is NOT divided!
Edited on Wed Jan-19-05 10:25 PM by Bush_Eats_Beef
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"Who are you calling divided, buster?
Are Americans really bitterly split? No, they aren’t."

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6809712/

Glance at any newspaper and you will read some pundit or another harrumphing that American voters are irretrievably divided, leading to ever more poisonous political rhetoric.

As a result, America is “deeply divided” (Fox News, Washington Post, Los Angeles Times, Boston Globe, San Francisco Chronicle, Philadelphia Inquirer, BBC). Or “bitterly divided” (CBS News, Chicago Tribune, Tampa Tribune, PBS, Economist, Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel, Time, Newsweek, Denver Post, Boston Herald, Detroit News, Newsday, Dallas Morning News).

Americans are “weary” (Chicago Tribune) of firing at one another across “fierce political divisions” (MSNBC.com).

But no matter what TV talkers and articles like this one may insist, people who study such things for a living say it just isn’t so. Americans aren’t irreconcilably divided over politics. It’s the politicians who are irreconcilably divided over America.

“Social scientists have known for at least 50 years that the vast stratum of people who are heavily involved in politics are not representative of the vast bulk of the population,” said Morris Fiorina, a political scientist at Stanford University whose latest book, “Culture War? The Myth of a Polarized America” makes a compelling case that pundits and journalists have it all wrong.
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AuntiBush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-19-05 10:26 PM
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1. Well! I know I feel better now...
N-O-T! They're as bad as FAUX!
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yinkaafrica Donating Member (535 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-19-05 10:26 PM
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2. That is tragically unlaughable
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atommom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-19-05 10:27 PM
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3. Oh. I guess I'll just go stand in the corner, then.
I guess they told ME! :D
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AuntiBush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-19-05 10:27 PM
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4. How do you stomach
watching SCAR-BOIL Country? He's totally disgusting!
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alcuno Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-19-05 10:28 PM
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5. I don't think I could ever tire of firing on those elitist Republicans.
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-19-05 10:30 PM
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6. Poll: Nation split on Bush as uniter or divider
On the eve of President Bush's inauguration, a poll shows the nation is split over whether he has united or divided the nation, but a majority believe his inauguration festivities should be toned down because of the war.
During the 2000 campaign, Bush promised to be a "uniter, not a divider.
Forty-nine percent of 1,007 adult Americans said in phone interviews they believe Bush is a "uniter," according to the CNN/USA Today/Gallup poll released Wednesday. Another 49 percent called him a "divider," and 2 percent had no opinion.
http://www.cnn.com/2005/ALLPOLITICS/01/19/poll/index.html
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x1165732
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gaia_gardener Donating Member (333 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-19-05 10:31 PM
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7. And my family didn't purposefully exclude
me from the extended family xmas gathering. Whatever.

I'm able to set aside politics, but my family can't. They send me pro-Bush shit all the time (finally stopped when I started replying all with anti-Bush shit). They think it should be their mission in life to "educate" me and bring me back into the fold.

Meh
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fishwax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-19-05 10:52 PM
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8. I think there's some truth
to the argument that the nation's populace as a whole isn't as polarized as it's sometimes made out to be. I feel pretty polarized and I have friends that are just as polarized as well as family who are equally polarized in favor of bush.

But I'm also constantly surprised when chatting with less-political friends, because they aren't as polarized. They may have voted for Kerry, but they don't worry (as I admit I sometimes do) that four more years of bush and we won't ever have to worry about elections again. They may oppose the Iraq war and think that bush was wrong, but they don't believe (as most of us do) bush acted with malice aforethought. Or maybe they oppose the Iraq war but still voted for bush because of abortion or they were fooled into believing he lowered their taxes or whatever, but they don't spout the typical right-wing bullshit about kerry hating america, etc.

It was the same thing during the whole Clinton affair. The hypocrites on the right assumed that everyone hated bc as much as they did, and the truth is that most people, even some who didn't agree with him politically, saw impeachment as a sham. My brother and father still speak disparagingly of clinton (their main objection to him has to do with ecological and land-use issues), but they both saw impeachment for the crock that it was. The country wasn't as polarized as the repubs thought it was (or as it seemed to be in, say, 1992 when Clinton was first elected. The right-wingers miscalculated by assuming that a divided electorate meant a polarized electorate, and believing that just because the mouth-foamers amongst them were willing to say, do, and believe anything that would get him out of office. Close to half of the electorate voted for a candidate other than Bill Clinton, but most of that half wasn't as motivated (polarized) as those who drove the impeachment.
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-19-05 11:02 PM
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9. Corporate Whores!
Money talks! Bushit walks!
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truebrit71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-19-05 11:20 PM
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10. Complete, total and utter bullshit.
But then what do you expect from the Corporate media?
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