The Washington Times IS a Moon tool - don't let'em tell ya different!

[Cell Whitman]

Hi.

I am not the best with the grammar and punctuation and I am sure much of this old news to many, so I ask for your patience. Note to mods: new guy here...if this should have been posted elsewhere, please move it. cell

I have noticed some posts and info on the Moon organization here. I started reading about Moon a few years ago. Let me tell you, I have come to believe there is a reason our country is moving more theocratic and fascist. I believe there is reason for this and it isn't the product of the free market of ideas or an outgrowth of any normal democratic process.

I believe that Moon has had more to do with creating our current political climate than anyone. Anyone. He outspent Scaife and when he spent it, I assure you he got his money's worth. He was there in the 80s when the current GOP was being molded. Whenever a hard right theocrat fell, there was Moon picking them up, dusting them off, giving them a pocketful of cash and pat on the keester as he sent them off to drive our country right and theocratic. Falwell, LaHaye, Viguerie, on and on. He financed Terry Dolan - giving $750,000 to his Conservative Alliance. Dolan, a name you might not be familiar with, is the father of the attack ad which changed the way we do politics in America. Dolan, just another of many non citizen Moon has helped.

I believe if you step back, look at the last 25 years, look at what Moon's organization has done and match it to what he said he would do - the goals he intended, you'll see he is winning. I believe the Washington Times has been a huge cog in his effort. When Reagan and the conservatives honored the Washington Times instead of disavowing it, that's when our democracy began its death spiral. imho. Moon is the straw that stirs the new conservative movement's drink. He said he was going to raise up the Christians so they would follow his lead and they are, while taking the rest of us with them. They just don't see it. Their leaders have sold them and our nation out. He lead them out of the 40 year liberal wilderness. He is their savior.

Moon wants us to go willingly. In short, Moon said that his goal was the "natural subjugation of the American government and population." Consider yourself as being subjugated. Leonard Cohen would say "he sank beneath our wisdom like a stone."

You ever google "America's newspaper"? hah

I believe Moon could sell his influence machine tomorrow, it has done it's job.

The idea, the frame, if you will, that the Washington Times is in any sense "independent" of Moon's plan's for the planet, is nonsense. Any study of Moon shows EVERYTHING he does is designed to help him move his theofascist ball down the field.

It's not exactly like most blogs, I don't think. But I have compiled some notes on this subject. There are only three posts there as I write this; let me tell you what is here.

http://cellwhitman.blogspot.com/

The post first post, Who IS driving the bus? goes through some of the who, why, where and what has happened to our nation the last 25 years. There are over 50 numbered notes to the first post. I believe you will find them very legit sources, most with links for you to check out for yourself.

The 2nd post which, in one of my more creative moments, was named Appendix A: Notes for above post. haha There you will find, yep, the numbered notes for the first post. haha

Whether you agree with my interpretations of this information in the first post or not, I do believe that EVERY politically minded person should be familiar with the information in the third post, "The "Independent" Washington Times? and the additional info below.

Here are a couple of things not in the third post, see what you see.

One source of information on Moon and his intentions are the former members of his cult. There are some really heroic people who have been trying to warn this country of this deceitful organization for a long time and we have foolishly ignored them for the most part.

One such former member is Craig Maxim, who is now a Christian. A singer, he traveled entertaining Moon at the leader of the UC's mansions around the world. Having read a good bit of Craig's work, I believe he is as honest a man as you will ever read. See for yourself; check out his ever growing site here. http://www.geocities.com/craigmaxim/craig.html

From the ARU forum where the UC is discussed: http://tinyurl.com/3msn5

Quoting Maxim - addressing another poster, who is a current member:

I have, on several occasions, been allowed to sit in on Korean Regional Leaders meetings, and other such high level meetings Moon has lead. I watched him direct activities these companies would go in. I watched the Korean leaders ask Moon about certain purchases, etc.. and what Moon told them to do, is done. I have watched Josette Shiner come and give a full report about things the Washington Times was doing, and make sure he knew everything that was going on. And similarly, Moon would respond to her comments and make decisions based on what she told him.

Moon was supposed to have NOTHING to do with the AFC and the Times beyond being the "founder" of these organizations. I personally witnessed that this was not true. I saw the reality myself. You on the other hand, are a nobody in the UC, and so all you have is the party line, which you believe without question.

Note that the "Jossett Shiner" he mentions is one of the finalists to be the our new Trade Representative. The current head is taking a job with Condi. Shiner is an assistant rep for Asia,, now.

Also, here's another quote to add to the mix:

From “Moonstruck: The Reverend and his Newspaper” by Ann Louise Bardach, an article that was originally to have appeared in Vanity Fair in 1992 but was killed. The article finally saw print in 2004 when included in the book Killed, Great Journalism Too Hot to Print by David Wallis. (Amazon http://tinyurl.com/63nfq )

quoting the 1992 Bardach article:

The reverend, who described himself as the Messiah, addressed some 200 staffers, wearing a beige suit and a snug-fitting silk shirt. According to one guest, Moon spoke in a "rapid fire, high pitched peals of oratorical Korean alternating with incomprehensible English," with both languages requiring the translation services of Moon's close ally, Times executive, Bo Hi Pak. Bristling with emotion while thumping the podium, he told a stunned audience that he had already poured a staggering $830 million into the Times. Moreover, he said that he personally raises the $7 million dollars each month needed to keep the paper afloat.

If Moon's figures are correct, they are a record-shattering sum for the newspaper business, surpassing previous estimates of $35 million to $50 million annual losses for the paper. Time Life pulled the plug on the Washington Star when its losses hit $30 million while the Dallas Herald owners closed their doors after less than $20 million seeped into the red. ....snip....

The paper's most powerful booster, President Reagan, let it be known that he "reads the Times first thing every morning at breakfast." It became apparent that the Reagan administration was doing more than just reading the paper; the Times received numerous leaks and exclusives, including coveted interviews with Reagan. ....

Charlotte Hayes, who wrote a hilarious and snarky memoir in The New Republic entitled "I was Moonie Gossip Columnist," still laments the loss of the generous expense account she had at the paper. "This is on the Rev.," Hayes, a thoroughbred conservative, would tell sources as she lunged for meal checks. "The Times," she added drolly, "is a place for free market conservatives to escape the free market." .......

Some insiders say that the Unification Church was the number one contributor to conservative causes throughout the 1980s.
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No, the Washington Times nor today's right wing theofascist Republican party is remotely the product of the free market of ideas. Sure others were involved, and today the right has many propaganda outlets. But when you look, I think you will find that Moon played a huge role in our direction. I don't think where we are today is where the average republican in 1975 would want us to be going, Moon changed everything. The political cult of conservatism is Moon's theocratic political army.

Even if you think I am nuts, please read the third post and use the info "liberally" or drip it out where you find a need.

at any rate, I hope it helps having some of it in one place, and no, as many of you know, it isn't everything by any means.

cell
http://cellwhitman.blogspot.com/

[madfloridian]

1. The Times once could not be posted here as a source.

Because it was owned by Moon. I guess it is allowed now, as it is quoted so often. Kind of sad it has become mainstream.

[AntiCoup2K4]

2. I don't see quoting the Washingmoonie Times as a problem

...as long as it's done to point out the lunacy of the BCE/PNAC agenda or how much the Busheep Media lies.

[Panda1]

13. It's good to keep an eye on the Moonie Times.

The same way we check up on what FAUX is blastfaxing.

Moon is insidious. He's everywhere.
Without Moon's money we would not be suffering this horrible inauguration of yet another BFEE/neocon administration.

Moon money is everywhere.

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[Cell Whitman]

6. not sure what you got there, lot of it didn't come though

They asked Moon once if his organization was tied to the KCIA and he said he wasn't that small. I believe him. I know some people connect him to the Illuminati. However, as someone who has tried to get people to pay attention to this story for some time, I can assure you if you mention Illuminati you will never get anyone to listen. They glaze over as it is, I don't see any sense in making it worse.

Please try not to blend them, conspiracy theory is the best defense for the right on Moon and they know it. I am not saying that the Illuminati doesn't exist or isn't important, though I do not watch it, but now is the time to show the country who Moon is, the Illuminati is not a tool for that and it isn't needed. imho. The truth about Moon and his organization alone will suffice if people will talk.

Moon works for no one but his own goals. If you are in a secret society with him, he is using you or he wouldn't be there.

Can you edit your post so the links are fixed?

[KingoftheJungle]

16. I tried, DU won't let me edit it (more...)

I copied and pasted it from another source, so I'll try to review it agian and clean it up and add some more refrences. Right now I'm busy with school so its hard to find the time. I'm on it though, I'm just trying to clean it up and add more reference material.

I also understand what you are saying about the Illuminati. I don't like the phrase much either, and I never bought into conspiracy theories until I started looking into the backgrounds of the voting company execs and their ties to prominent Republicans and industrialists, and the biggest link between all of them just so happened to be Opus Dei and the Council of National Policy, which we have now established to be practically one and the same (along with the Knights of Malta). You are also well aware the the Bush family has deep ties to Moon Unification, and we also have enough ties to show that Moon Unification is a parliament of Opus Dei. The web just keeps coming back to the same people over and over again, which is why I refer to it as "The Illuminati" since all of them are serving the same masters with the same overall purpose.

I don't like talking about all of this publicly, and I'm also not really too sharp on the details since I've only been involved with it a couple of months (it is quite a lot of info to absorb for a newbie), so I think it would be best if we go into the broad details through email (also so I can connect you to my sources, and get you an invitation into the yahoo group so you can view the stuff everyone has been working on recently).

my email is [e-mail]

[Cell Whitman]

4. Parry says WTimes "at least in part supported by laundered money"

Wanted to be sure y'all are aware these 4 Robert Parry interviews from David Emory's archives are available(need real player).

I am sure you are all familiar with Mr. Parry. IMHO, he's the most intelligent, honest, and straight forward journalist in the business. Even though he reports some sad truths it is kind of relaxing to me to just sit back and listen to the real truth without all the hub bub.

In these historical interviews he covers the Gary Webb story, BCCI, Iran-Contra, the cocaine coup, the October Surprise and - mostly in the last hour and half - guess who? hah Moon and all his shenanigans.

Obviously Moon has many sources of money. Parry does play down one source of this cash which I do not. We may never know the details of any drug money Moon has made, but we do know where he made a bundle for sure. He ran cons targeting widows in Japan. We're not talking flower selling. Japan is very non-litigious society, yet they have had 20,000 claims totaling $800 million from '87 to '97. The lawyers feel that the figure is less that one tenth the actual damages. If you believe that, that would mean Moon made $8 billion off these cons. Maybe not all he used to manipulate us, but nothing to sneeze at, either.

When we talk about 250 Gs for the Bush inaugural or the money to finance the religious right's takeover of our government, remember where some of the billions came from - it ain't pretty.

You can find the info starting in section #48 at my blog in Appendix A: Notes for above post. Read the links and see what you see.

anyhwo....Look at this gift package. FOUR HOURS of interviews with a truth teller, Robert Parry.

Emory's archive link.
http://wfmu.org/playlists/DX

November 23, 2004: FTR #485: Interview with Robert Parry and Lucy Komisar (she's a BCCI and money trail wiz)

December 14, 2004: FTR #489: An Interview with Robert Parry

December 21, 2004: FTR #490: Second Interview with Robert Parry

December 28, 2004: FTR # #491: Another Interview with Robert Parry

From part one of the Dec 28 show:

Parry: "So, there's strong evidence that the Washington Times and its political influence is, at least in part supported by laundered money, illegally brought in money."

Parry's classic series on Moon found HERE.

[KingoftheJungle]

5. Whitman: email me immediately !!!!

[e-mail]

I have a lot of information to show you, and you are needed in our group. Email me as soon as possible and I'll start you off

[Cell Whitman]

7. KingoftheJungle

Sorry, I am new here and any spare time is not in the cards right now. I will email you. What kind of group do you have? I really couldn't make hide nor hair of your post as it is now half gobbledy gook.

Please understand I, as much as anyone, know there are things out there, but enough already think I am nuts without adding to the mix.haha And the Moon story doesn't need the complications now. I can't even get most liberals to talk much about this, need to get over that hump first. haha I have a huge backlog of things on this that I should be doing.

It is a long story but I don't think the old noggin is in good enough shape to add another section right now. I am full up if you know what I mean. I am like thankful that people have time to watch the voter fraud stuff, I didn't. I hope maybe I can help some of them by compiling some Moon stuff in one place should they become interested.

I asked my brother once if he watched x-files and he said no, he said it took too much energy. I guess I am saying, I am just running out of energy.

Do you have any posts here about your information? The mods were kind enough to take my training wheels off so I expect to slip a few moon posts in here as we go along. Stay tuned.

What he is doing with the UN is a wild tale. Just what he said he would in 70s.

thanks,
cell

[KingoftheJungle]

9. we hard linked Moon to Opus Dei, and hard linked Opus Dei to votergate

I understand exactly where you are coming from, I am myself am exhausted with the torrent of information we have uncovered the last few months. I am still trying to absorb it all, and my friends think I am nuts too.

The thing is, Moon is just a slice of the overall pie and his web is the same web that includes Opus Dei, the Knights of Malta, the Council of National Policy, the Council of Foreign relations, all of the voter/database companies, Mitofsky polling, and the Republican leadership, just to name a few. Its the same group of people, using the same old connections, and all for the same goal that has driven the Illuminati for centuries. We already have many pieces of the puzzle put together, as well as a few experts in the conspiracy web, so there isn't much going to be demanded of you. I just think it would help reduce the mental strain of everybody if there was more cooperative group effort. You can feed off us while we feed off you, it works out for everyone.

[Panda1]

19. I think you're perfectly sane.

It's a scary topic to most people....links lead to links lead to links....big, huuuuuge topic.
Most people just avoid it. Over the past couple of years, mostly from reading links you've provided elsewhere, I've been able to reduce some of it to soundbites to toss into conversations. People are often incredulous. I've been told I'm lying. But small bites of the elephant do get out there.
One by one, one person at a time.
Every once in a blue moon I convince another. :wow:

Crack open the pods...use pitchforks. Hahaha.

Moon is verrrry bad news.

"Facts are stupid things"~St. Teflon

[progressiveright]

8. democrats

really need to start fighting republicans. Remember last year when some republican officials coronated rev moon as the son of god in the federal building in the middle of the night? It's understandable that moon owns a media empire that is republican mouthpiece, and republican congressmen wanted to be on his good side, so when he asked them to participate in some stupid ceremony in his own language where they had no idea what was going on they said why not. But if we had a democratic ginrich we would be hearing about that for months, about using government building for weird blasphemous religious ceremonies, media will not pick this up if not prodded. So many opportunities missed... no leadership, no discipline

[Cell Whitman]

10. There were some from both sides there

Everyone but Danny Davis said they were conned. I personally think they targeted one dem in particular. He had no idea what was being pulled on him. Wasn't there when Moon arrived. Did you know, they actually had a dry run Feb. 4 at the Reagan Building?

There were many who were conned into having a picture taken with Moon in the 70s before the congressional investigation. Even Ike sat with moon. It's the people who actively shill for him like Bush 41 and the ones who honor and work for his fronts who are selling out, rationalizing. imho. Poppy knows exactly what Moon is trying to do and he has helped him. I think that old man is as low as they go. Bush shilling for Moon was HUGE for Moon. To this day if a moonsterite is asked about Moon's plans for the planet they will say "Do you think President Bush, with the intelligence he has at his disposal would help father if he up was up to something?" Bush helped Moon gig people.

http://www.freedomofmind.com/stevehassan/presskit/articles/fisher.htm

"All these people should know better. My daughter would tell me over and over how in their recruiting films they would show Moon with Bush to impress young people. They use the films of Moon and Bush and other celebrities to reassure parents that it is okay that their children are on the streets selling flowers 18 hours a day." (Washington Post, July 30, 1996)


They work with each other.

Moon has been working on Black ministers for some time. The republicans used Moon's organization to promote the Faith Based Theocratizing plan and it allowed Moon to recruit ministers with the blessing of the Bush administration - the government. The country hasn't a clue.

That said, Moon financed and guided the religious conservatives all the way to power in America. It really is despicable what they did to get here. The Republican Party allowed itself to be taken over by extremists who are taking the world to hell.

Below is a link to a talk by Michael Jenkins, head of the UC in America, to the members of Moon's group in New York on March 21, 2004, two days before Moon was crowned in the Dirkson office building. I transcribed, so please bear with me...hah

Here's the link to the large audio/video file and excerpts.

Moon said Presidents would come to him for advice and they are.

http://www.familyfed.org/board/uboard.asp?id=video&skin=board_urim_simple&color=eng&page=1&u_no=87

at 15:55 Quoting Jenkins

Father's teaching must go to the president - of every nation - but especially of this nation. Amen. That's why we're going to Capitol Hill. That's why this Capitol Hill emphasis is developing incredible foundation to educate congress and from the foundation of congress we're educating the White House and the State Department. As Father said - maybe there is somebody from the CIA here. But I can tell you the administration and the State Department and also the CIA look very favorably on our work. We got a letter from the White House from a briefing we did on the work we did in Israel from the head of President Bush's representative to all the Jewish communities in America and he's a deputy cabinet member and he wrote on the letter in his own handwriting, "You're doing great work - IIFWP." Because of the healing we're bringing in the Middle East. So the White House is aware.
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(On Dec. 22, 2003 they had a ceremony in Israel where Jews gave a crown to Jesus, making him King of the Jews so he could fulfill his mission. This ceremony was then brought to the USA on Feb. 4, 2004 and held in the Reagan building. It was the dry run for the crowning on March 23, 2004.)
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at 28:40

Feb. 4th we had to expand the crowning of Jesus not only in Israel but to the world and that had to be done in America because represents the world. So Feb. 4th, congress with Congressman Danny Davis and Congressman Chris Cannon, a Mormon, and many Senators and congressman present, the crown was given by Jewish leaders. Three Jewish leaders came and gave the crown and not only that Muslims from Palestine and Israel and Jews from Israel and Christians all harmonized, reconciled and the atmosphere became like the Kingdom of Heaven - right there in the Reagan Building February fourth. And Father never said he was coming Feb. 4th. He said from the beginning "I'm not going there." So Father knew, somehow, that was a foundation for the next step and what's the next step? March 23rd.

March 23rd, what's that step? That step is the second Israel - Christianity - now Father's whole mission was to be originally received by Christianity after World War 2. Father was to be made the King of Christianity, King of the second Israel and ultimately King of the Universe. So that will occur March 23 and I know it will occur. Why? Because I have been with the congressman and I have been with the Christian leaders and both sides are totally united. They totally feel the confidence in Father, they totally feel.....Congressman Danny Davis is ready to put on the white gloves and carry the crown again. We told him about it,"Oh, I'd love to do it." We are going to crown Father Moon the king of the 2nd Israel, "Oh, I'd love to do it."* And all the Christian ministers from the ACLC who believe Father's the messiah, they are going crazy now "Can I be in the procession," that is amazing.

(* much bigger applause here than when Jenkins asked them to fork over a grand for Moon)
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After saying the FBI warned them that they may be attacked during their Dec 22nd rally in Israel
they weren't worried because...

at 26:20

But we had inside information also. Because the Muslim world is actually very, very friendly to Father. Why? Because they've become Father's family through the blessing, through the trust of President Wahid and the Muslim leaders throughout the world. Moslem leaders absolutely believe Father is the only bridge to the religions of the world. Believe me, look at all the Muslim news..in Al Jazeera and also all the major Muslim publications throughout the world. Father is being lifted up right now, as the ONLY one who can bring and heal...Muslims don't want war. The real religious Muslims don't want war they want peace. So Father is becoming the central figure. It's becoming very clear.

at 35:12

So I hope that gives you some background for March 23. The second Israel will come forward with incredible procession. And by the way, everybody that's on the stage, every politician and every religious leader that brings forward the crown and the robe, they are gonna believe that Father is the second coming, the savior and the messiah. No one's gonna be up there just out of ceremony. They're gonna do it from the heart.

note: Rep. Danny Davis carried the crown and Rep. Roscoe Bartlett carried the robes. I don't think they would agree with Jenkins. I understand Davis said he would no longer attend Moon functions. Don't know about Bartlett. At least Davis so far has said he won't lend his name anymore. The republicans will continue the fraud of sucking off Moon teat while rationalizing whatever front group they are bowing to is "independent" of Moon.

Hypocrites and frauds.

btw: Davis did NOT crown Moon. Davis carried the crown and Bartlett the robes. Moon third or fourth son(based on whether you count all his kids) and his son's wife actually did the honors.

[blm]

11. And don't forget Moon and Bush favorite propagandist, Bill Gertz was there

for the crowning and had invited HIS Republican guests.

[AntiCoup2K4]

12. I believe it was DLC poster boy Harold Ford who was there

Both a Moonie and a DLC'er, and some here still believe he's a Democrat :eyes:

[Cell Whitman]

15. Ford claimed he wasn't there

It was kind of funny watching them all dance around. Thing is that Moon did pull one on them but they should have known. He had the dry run on Feb 4 when congresscritters were there. They knew he was doing mumbo jumbo then.

Moonite says "Warner not deceived" hah

http://www.gorenfeld.net/blog/2004/08/jarmin-warner-was-not-deceived.html

The reason why he was deceived was because the repubs have been working with Moon fronts so long soul selling comes down right natural to them. Try to listen to the Parry audio, in the most recent one he talks about these soul selling thugs. They don't want to know where his money comes from.

here's the video of Chris Cannon sucking up to moon at the 'dry run' last feb...

quiktime

http://iapprovethismessiah.com/teaser/

[paineinthearse]

14. Remind viewers of CSPAN Journal

Check the CSPAN Journal schedule every evning for the next day's guests - www.cwspan.org

Every time a reporter from Washington Times or UPI is scheduled as a guest, submit a question the night before (address is in the "contact us" area) or call during the program.

Ask the guest how they can be an objective journalist when their organizations are owned by the Unification Church.

[blm]

17. Or ask why Bush isn't upset that crosses are being replaced by crowns.

Republicans attack Democrats and say we want to get rid of Jesus and they LOVE Moon who convinces ministers to throw away their crosses for him.

[Cell Whitman]

18. Very good idea.

Be sure to skim through this post for some fodder.

http://cellwhitman.blogspot.com/2004/10/independent-washington-times.html

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This is from a right wing Clinton/UN/Hilary hating site, but heck he don't like Moon so he can't be all bad. haha

Anywho check out this caller to Gertz on c-span. I watched this when it happened. Amazing.

http://www.usasurvival.org/ck06022002.shtml