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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-21-05 04:35 PM
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The irony is that the more you hate Bush, they more they love him
At least, that is the way it seems to me. No doubt, that is is why Reagan was so glorified. He was not well-liked by most Democrats that I knew. Today, the Repubs are ready to put him on Mt Rushmore, if they had their way.

But, how does one not hate what Bush is doing to the country? They seem to thrive on the division. They are like suckling pigs gobbling up the hate and turning it into greedy and sloppy hog love. They snort and go on their way, ignoring everyone that does not love their esteemed leader.
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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-21-05 04:39 PM
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1. Wasn't that the same way with Clinton?
When the media started to beat up on him, and the impeachment proceedings started, his approval ratings rose.
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imenja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-21-05 04:43 PM
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3. Bush feelings are far more partisan
Clinton had some support from ordinary voters including some Republicans. From what I can see, Democrats universally despite Bush. Kentuck has a good point. They may love him precisely because we despise him so. I had never thought of it quite that way before.
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Sparkle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-21-05 04:41 PM
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2. You could be right. That's how I felt when Clinton was in office.
The more they hated him, the more I fell in love with him (as a politician). I researched to figure out why they hated this guy and I simply couldn't. I really do believe they hated him because he was from the south and he wasn't a good ol boy. And the fact that he was good looking with sex appeal.:-)
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-21-05 04:44 PM
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4. What's the difference....??
Between the Repubs hating Clinton and Democrats hating Bush? Is the Democratic "hate" more legitimate than the Repubs?
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Sparkle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-21-05 04:48 PM
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5. There may be some Democrats that hate Bush but
most don't hate him personally. They hate his policies. But with Clinton, the republicans HATED that man on a personal level (and they still do!).
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justsomegirl Donating Member (197 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-21-05 05:56 PM
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9. The difference to me is...
Last I checked, Bill Clinton's lies didn't kill thousands of people.
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digno dave Donating Member (992 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-21-05 06:32 PM
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11. The more we hate the harder they laugh
Bush is a dope, that's obvious. But he is not as bad as most haters want to believe he is. He's not evil and he's not another Hitler. He's just an overzealous, thieving politician with a God complex.
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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-21-05 06:43 PM
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13. But...
Erm...

He's just an overzealous, thieving politician with a God complex.

That was also Hitler.
I, however, don't think Bush is as smart as Hitler - but he's certainly as opportunistic.
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Jade Fox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-21-05 04:49 PM
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6. They are defensive....
They have made the decision (for whatever reason) to like Bush, and
criticism of him threatens that decision, so they cling to it ever tighter.

This kind of "support" for Bush in largely emotional. He is an empty suit,
easy to project one's Presidential fantasies onto, just like Reagan was.
I suspect part of their projection has to do with imagining Bush to be
unfairly persecuted, a common fantasy of passive, angry people.
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Generator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-21-05 04:50 PM
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7. Do they really love him?
Or is about who they really hate?

The hate Saddam. They hate terrorists. (they believe who they are told to hate) Some of them hate gays. Some of them don't like women very much.

The fear...US.. gays and weakness. They are afraid of dying..they believe what they've been told..Saddam being gone makes them safer.

Sure some like Bush...but it's about an idea.. an idea of being safer..an idea that Gays aren't going to "take over" their community, their school ect... it's about the idea that they will have more money because of lower taxes with Bush.

It's a myth. It's not all that personal in their great love of him, otherwise, heh they wouldn't have to steal and suppress votes now would they?

They think our "hate" of Bush is because we are weak. That we are anti-God, and that he is pro-God. That we don't understand they have simple ideas, like they don't want to DIE and are AFRAID of GAY people and why oh why don't we understand Bush is saving us from all that?
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No Exit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-21-05 05:53 PM
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8. That's why I love it when Bush is photographed making lovey-
dovey with Clinton. That causes huge cognitive dissonance for Stepford-Bushies. LOL.
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snippy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-21-05 06:10 PM
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10. Bush's followers truly are bizarre. n/t
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senseandsensibility Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-21-05 06:41 PM
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12. I don't agree
* "s approval ratings were only sky high in the post 9-11 days when there was LITERALLY no criticism of him allowed EVER on the corporate media. As soon as the Dems starting criticizing him again (although not nearly as much aa they should have) his ratings went down. It does hurt him when the other side is represented. If we had even a somewhat even playing field in the press, he'd be toast. I think most of his followers know little or nothing about politics and government, and just swallow what they hear on FOX. They want to be on the winning side. The less popular * appears, the better for us.
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