Will the 60's and 70's repeat itself?

[Democrat Dragon]

Anti-war protests..

Draft coming...

Breaking in buildings for information prior to election day...

Possible impeachment of *....

60's fasion appears in stores...

"Terroists" instead of "Commies"...

Kerry critisizing the Repukes...

A "re-elected" Republican President...

Woah! where's my tye-dye shirt?

:hippie:

[ayeshahaqqiqa]

1. well, the idea of impeaching Nixon happened

in the 70s. You did leave out assassinations and riots. Those things I hope don't happen.

But I'll help you do tie dye if you want to.

[murray hill farm]

5. No...

the 60s and early 70s were the coming together of the perfect storm..in the social sense! This will not happen again!

[Warpy]

12. That storm may be recreated

The 60s grew out of the regimentation, censorship, and anticommunist oppression of the 50s.

The generation now coming into adulthood have been oppressed by overscheduling and restriction to organized and supervised activity by their paranoid parents. I have a sneaking suspicion they'll rebel.

We won't like it, of course. We're not supposed to.

[makemelaughorisleep]

40. they're called ecco-boomers

warpy is right-on! ...they even have a name now(I'm not kidding) -they're called ecco-boomers (the earliest granchildren of baby-boomers), they like video-games and group co-operation and they're inclusive of diversity but have no idea what to do with free-time let alone carry an instinct for rebellion. Who knows though? their kids might. ..but I agree w mexicoxpat -at least it won't look like anything we would recognize

[Guns Aximbo]

49. no... not to mention

that perfect storm has turned republican (or always was).

[Zen Democrat]

2. Let's hope 1974 repeats itself.

[ClassWarrior]

4. We'll make it happen.

Pass the rubber bands and dye...

NGU.

[Pastiche423]

14. August 8, 1974 to be precise

What a glorious day that was!

[Hosnon]

26. For those born post - 1980...what made 1974 socially important?

Edit: I don't want to google it but I assume it was Nixon's resignation?

[demwing]

46. Yep

though there seems to be some question (in my mind at least) as to whether it was August 8th or August 9th.

But who cares? He's gone, that's the important bit...

[ClayZ]

43. Sure feel the SAME

Felt the same marching in the late 60s and early 70s as it did last Jan 20 2005. I did both. Children of the Hippies have it in their genes at least MINE do!

If it feels the same, smells the same, looks the same, IT MUST BE THE SAME!

THAT PEACE TRAIN IS A COMMIN' I FELT IT! I heard young and old Speak last week and they are all saying the same.

"NOT IN MY NAME"

[unblock]

3. i sure hope so 'cause the music scene really sucks now

anything to replace britney and ashlee

[ZombieNixon]

11. Hippie music wasn't exactly "mainstream," was it?

The underground exists for a reason.

[unblock]

13. you didn't really have to look hard to find the beatles

or the who, for that matter.

[jimshoes]

16. The thing about hippie music

was at that time, FM was just coming into its own. It was a new kind of radio. There was AM which everyone had was in mono, and now FM was in stereo with a more powerful and much cleaner signal. It was alternative right from the very beginnings. And some seriously good music was being created from the British invasion to the San Francisco underground scene. It was an unparalelled time in music. Of course not everyone was into it, some people still found Frank Sinatra and Perry Como entertaining. I think Nixon was one of them.

[retread]

22. A large portion of Frank Sinatra 's music is superb. n/t

[jimshoes]

28. Please understand I did not mean to say it wasn't good music

just that there came a marked difference in musical tastes at that time. Call it old vs. new or mainstream vs. underground or whatever.

[Eloriel]

31. It was extremely mainstream

it just wasn't our parents' cup o' tea. But it was very, very mainstream.

[Hosnon]

27. Just go to bonnaroo - It is actually our Woodstock, every year..

[rzemanfl]

6. Do you think this car seat, seatbelt, bicycle helmet and video

game generation would risk getting hit over the head with a billy club or worse? I don't know. I'm too old to demonstrate unless porta-potties and rest areas are available, and I certainly can't afford to lose any more teeth.

[American Tragedy]

32. Oh, please.

Older people always think that the younger generation is too soft. My grandparents used to give my dad the same shit.

I realize this is a gross generalization, but it does seem like we've spent our formative years being told that everything and everyone is dangerous, and that we can't go outside because we might get shot or raped like the kids on the news. We have indeed absorbed many hours of gory movies and videogames, witnessed and played thousands of acts of simulated violence.

And you know, it's the damnedest thing, but it almost desensitizes a person to the threat of violence after a while.

I could be wrong, but I suspect that we are not nearly as fragile as you might believe. Speaking for myself, getting hit with a club is the least of my fears - I've experienced worse in mosh pits. In fact, if they succumb to brutality while the whole world is watching, we win, don't we? Bring it on.

[rzemanfl]

50. You'd have fit right into the '60's.

Please get rid of these right wing morons before I'm wearing Depends and can't remember where I am. (Although the latter would be a relief in these times.)

[American Tragedy]

53. Thank you. That's what my dad says.

I'll try, but I can't do it alone.

[jdots]

7. Chimp is bringing back the 60's

1360

[rzemanfl]

8. Just 60. Wasn't that a period of emperor worship? n/t

[HysteryDiagnosis]

9. Yup... only worse this time. We have the net to inform the masses. All

that can be revealed is being revealed. Thugs and charlatans will run for cover if they aren't impeached first. I am making popcorn right now, cuz it's going to be a great show!!

[makemelaughorisleep]

41. don't underestimate the reptilian-brain

sounds exciting... there's just one problem, The masses have already been well informed. Why do you think someone like Carl Rove has been able to orchestrate such a winning-just-for-the-sake-of-winning successs? It's not because Americans aren't very intelligent lately. They weren't appealing to what we might THINK is best. They cleverly campaigned (like advertizing focus-groups do) for what we ACT like we want. It works. It's how advertizers get us to buy what feels good at the moment rather than what we might think is best. There's nothing wrong with it - side-stepping the mamallian-cerebral-THINKing brain is all good harmless fun. ....but don't be surprised when you suddenly feel like you've just landed in a countryside full of lizards -like on November 3, 2004.
We did buy what they were selling, didn't we? Have you asked many voters why they chose to re-elect this guy? Let me tell you; if you assume they had something logical in mind, ...it isn't pretty. They're not wrong. They just weren't thinking. And its NOT because they're dumb.

[HysteryDiagnosis]

45. They were made to believe that JK is something less than desireable

especially as a commander in chief. They are experts at selling lies, subterfuge, innuendo and exaggerations. I guess that makes them good politicians. I guess Americans, half of them, are gullible enough to buy their crap.

[makemelaughorisleep]

47. yes

okay
but here's the thing:
there's a difference between how we tend to ACT
and how we're willing to act when we sicerely THINK something through a little bit. Guess which one Rove & company has gotten good at connecting with. The lies aren't the problem. They're actually quite rediculously obvious. (50% of us believe Sadam~9-11 for instance) Its not so much that we're all being lied to, its just that they have this nice finely polished technique for getting us to feel connected with what we're willing to let them "sell" to us without first persuading us a little in THOUGHT. You must have a certain brand of something that you like to buy -that you haven't given much thought to....you just kinda like the sense that it's YOUR BRAND. We all do. Same thing. Favorite soda. Favorite presidential canditade. Its not quite the same thing as gullibility as I understand it, its just operating with a more primal level of brain function. Its not bad or wrong, its just that good democracy requires more than voter deciscions based on feelings of "brand loyalty". Do you ever take time to consider one or two qualities of exception that you LIKE about a candidate that fails miserably for you in all the other qualities? It's a useful exercise. How many other people do you think take a moment to do that? We don't apply such thougt to every single product we buy. Its not so shocking. Its just a modern "consumer-satisfaction" approach.

[EVDebs]

10. "Enemies List" and all liberals are 'traitors' .....it's coming soon DUers

[Hardrada]

15. We did not get really in protest mode

until way late in the 1960's. I had always thought the war a stupid idea and started saying so in 1963. As many indifferent people around then as now. I think the antiwar movement is off to a quicker start now since Shrub somehow manages to be more hateful than R. Milhaus Nixon!! Anyway the Sixties were like two separate decades with the break somewhere around the time of the second Beatles movie.

[Eloriel]

33. Nope -- protests in 1965. I remember; I was there.

That't not "way late in the 1960s" to me, that's mid-60s.

[Hardrada]

37. You must have been someplace

Other than Iowa and Minnesota. I remember a peace parade (first ever on my college campus) in 1966. And then not much happened there until the Moratorium in 1969. (!!) And some activity in Minneapolis in 1967. There was some odd time warp in place then and we were not really up to speed with the rest of the Movement. I think the Internet has altered this now. I hope.

[American Tragedy]

30. Bring it on.

I'm not afraid.

Although, I question whether they would bother to harass a bunch of leftists ranting on the internet.

[peacetalksforall]

17. Do you think military draftees are going to want to hit, mace, or

taser target their friends and family? How does the military brainwash the draftees into hurting their own should Gonzales or Cheney himself decide that the protestors need to be contained?

Guantanamo is too small.

Start brushing-up on pacifist protests.

[chrisbur]

20. As I faced the 20 year old riot cops....

last Thursday in D.C. I had the distinct feeling that they would have loved to try out their clubs on me. They wore sneers and I don't think they saw us as being "like them".

I'm a liberal and I have worked in construction all my life. I think it's safe to say that 90% of the tradespeople I come into contact with are very conservative. We might work side by side and get to know each other for a while and a soon as I am outspoken about politics they are just bowled over. Liberals to them are some kind of welfare sucking,homo,half breeds. Liberals to us are intuitive and empathetic.

I don't think it's the military doing the brainwashing at all. Most of that is already done before they join.It's very tribal. People would hit you without a second thought.

[seito]

18. We're there man

[Raskolnik]

19. I predict the 60's and 70's will start again in approximately 55 yrs

[scrantonlib17]

21. Yeah... I wish

Sometimes I get the feeling I was born 40years too late. (I was born in 1987) I really wish I were there.

[ZombieNixon]

23. Fret not, fellow 17-year-old

we will come into our own.

[B0S0X87]

29. Wow! I had that exact same feeling earlier today

and I was born in '87 too.

From what I've heard, the culture, attitudes, and even sex are always better during a time of revolution.

[SoCalifer]

24. I hope so... And

If it does.. You'll be able to catch me hanging out in San Francisco taking acid trips and finding out all the answers of the universe..

:) :hippie: :) :hippie:

[ClayZ]

44. It is in the water....

Timothy Leary is DEAD.... He ate he drank he took acid and he became EARTH.

[burn the bush]

25. yes, it is happening now but with a whole lot less drugs lol

[Eloriel]

35. plus less fun, and way more fascism

It's a very different time. I don't know if it can ever be even similar. Perhaps it can be better, but if so in a VERY different way. Try to imagine the era of the 60s/70s in the context of Hitler's Geramny. You can't. That's more the flavor of the context we have now, IMO.

We all had so much hope and optimism back then. We thought we could change the world -- and indeed we did. We just didn't know that we needed to change way more of it than we could see or imagine. But the times were quite joyous in so many ways. Bouyant, resilient. There was a goodness and innocence that aren't possible now.

[ChiciB1]

34. Oh I Remember Those Days!

One can only WISH!! Let's make it happen, and I've seen lots of Tye-Dyes in stores for over a year or so!!

But can we skip those really really huge bell-bottoms???

[SoCalifer]

36. ....

I was born in 1966 and am just old enough to remember the part of the 70's where you still could go to a camp ground somewhere and sometimes run into people skinny dipping (had that happen on a couple of occasions) and smoking herb like it was normal and just being "relaxed" instead of compared to today where so many people you see are so up-tight and anal retentive.

Man I so wish more people today understood what freedom really is and stood up against our government for it. And how I wish psycho active drugs were legal like they use to be.

*sigh*

[SoCalifer]

38. ...

[Blue_In_AK]

39. Oh, yeah..... n/t

[ChiciB1]

52. My DAUGHTER was born in 1966!

And I have some very fond memories about "skinny dipping" and other stuff!

Up-tight doesn't exactly describe what's going on today! More like OPPRESSION to me!!!

[zann725]

42. Unfortunately, aside from appearances, things are far 'darker' now

Nixon was more of an "outsider"...easier to Impeach. Dems had more say in the House and Senate. The Courts were more 'open.' And MSM was NOT as manipulated or monopolized by the Right. There was also no Patriot Act then.

This is a whole different 'ball game.'

Although I suspect it'll be a very "hot" Summer...for inner-Cities.

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[proud patriot]

51. I just went pants shopping for the first time in 10 years

I recieved a gift card for JC Penny's and they
had a 70% off sale .

I wear juniors ,,, I got hip hugging bell bottoms :D

[Mountainman]

54. Can there be another Age of Aquarius?

[WI_DEM]

55. On the other hand, the 60's and 70's were an idealistic

time in our nations history that I miss. People these days don't seem to give a damn about what is going on in the world. Back then we were much more socially conscious and much more liberal nation.

[PROGRESSIVE1]

56. 1960's Part II