Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

So, RW pundits have been comparing Bush's speech to JFK's

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion: Presidential (Through Nov 2009) Donate to DU
 
ZombieNixon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-05 10:08 PM
Original message
So, RW pundits have been comparing Bush's speech to JFK's
First of all, what utter crap. But I have sworn off MSM, so what have they been saying?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
pinkpops Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-05 10:09 PM
Response to Original message
1. Ax not what you can do for your country -
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
SnoopDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-05 10:09 PM
Response to Original message
2. Who? Where? Link?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
ZombieNixon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-05 10:11 PM
Response to Reply #2
3. I dunno, I thought I heard in on FAUX
(that's all they play in my crappy school), so I was hoping DU could provide some answers.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
SnoopDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-05 10:15 PM
Response to Reply #3
6. Just my opinion...
Nothing is real until you can provide a verifiable source. Maybe you should do a search on it first.

I responded because the criminal we call * is no JFK..
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
ZombieNixon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-05 10:43 PM
Response to Reply #6
13. OK...
Edited on Sun Jan-23-05 10:45 PM by ZombieNixon
NewsMax: "That was the greatest inaugural address since John F. Kennedy's and one of the five or six greatest of all time," (Dick) Morris told Fox News Channel's Bill O'Reilly Thursday night.

http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2005/1/21/71630.shtml
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
SnoopDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-05 11:11 PM
Response to Reply #13
15. Thank you Z.Nixon......for your update....!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Up2Late Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-24-05 12:17 PM
Response to Reply #13
24. Oh Jesus, Lord help us
Yup, NewsMax IS the place to go if you are a Right-wing Wack-job, and you need the freshest SPIIIIIIINNNNNNN!:crazy:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
ZombieNixon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-05 06:06 PM
Response to Reply #13
26. Morton Kondracke:
"soaringly eloquent...(echoed of) Woodrow Wilson with overtones of JFK."

:puke:

Sorry, no link.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
noamnety Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-05 10:26 PM
Response to Reply #3
11. It wasn't just fox
I heard similar garbage, so probably it was CNN; I wouldn't have been watching fox. I remember shutting it off and saying to the husband "They did NOT just compare him to JFK."
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
RobertSeattle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-05 10:11 PM
Response to Original message
4. Here's my prediction...
In 30 years some future RWers will be going "The modern Democrats should be more like Bill Clinton - now that was a Democrat I could get behind".

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-05 10:14 PM
Response to Original message
5. Why are they comparing him to a Democrat? What is the reasoning
behind that? Trying to liken Bush to a Democrat icon? Are they kidding? What comes to mind is Lloyd Bensen's remark to Dan Quayle during their VP debate:
"I knew Jack Kennedy. Jack Kennedy was a friend of mine. Senator, you're no Jack Kennedy."
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Laurab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-05 10:17 PM
Response to Reply #5
7. Not to mention Caroline Kennedy's telling *
to stop using her father's name in vain. Well, it wasn't exactly that, but it was something like that. Caroline keeps a very low profile, so I think she had to be really pissed.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
miss_kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-05 10:17 PM
Response to Original message
8. what?
Edited on Sun Jan-23-05 10:18 PM by miss_kitty
As in "JFK wasn't full of crap" compared to "the cheneybush junta just added a few more feet to their already towering pile of bullshit"?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
marcologico Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-05 10:17 PM
Response to Original message
9. yeah I thought I caught a few garbled echoes in the clips I heard.
Mostly in the "we will bear any burden to assure the survival and success of liberty" department. Leave it to Dubya to plagiarize JFK to try and whitewash his bungled oil war.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
HarrietBrown Donating Member (180 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-05 10:19 PM
Response to Original message
10. I knew this was coming--I think the speech was designed to call on
Americans to do "big" things, the same way JFK's did. I think they were striving for a JFK inaugural address comparison--that was just the sense I got when I heard bits and pieces of it. I haven't read *'s yet (don't know if I can) but last year I compared his first to JFK's, and it was a laughable comparision. I'm sure this one is too.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Up2Late Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-05 10:35 PM
Response to Original message
12. What total Bull Sh*t
They didn't say that on NPR, You should hear this:

All Things Considered, January 20, 2005 · Robert Siegel talks with Allan Metcalf, author of Presidential Voices: Speaking Styles from George Washington to George W. Bush, about President Bush's inaugural speaking style. Metcalf notes misplaced emphases that weaken the speech, along with other telling moments.

<http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=4460523>

Or this one with Zabignue Brzezinski (don't know the spelling, He was Carter's SoS) <http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=4461900>

This was a good interview with Nancy Pelosi too
<http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=4461867>

I also heard someone say this weekend, that hi NEVER mentioned Terror in this speach, but now he's on to tyranny:tinfoilhat:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-05 10:47 PM
Response to Original message
14. I still think it was a
shoddy takeoff on FDR's Four Freedoms speech. Google Four Freedoms Roosevelt and you will find the speech. Of course, Bush lacks the commitment to fairness and human rights that Roosevelt had, so Bush's speech is merely a hollow imitation.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
mrdmk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-05 11:17 PM
Response to Reply #14
17. Actually, it may worse than that
http://www.commondreams.org/views05/0123-05.htm

The above link maybe a bit of a stretch, but worth the read.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
SnoopDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-05 11:16 PM
Response to Original message
16. JFK was an honorable man and a real & elected president.
The current criminal and barbaric president that occupies the WH could never be compared to a president with honor, ethics and respectability.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
GRLMGC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-05 11:20 PM
Response to Original message
18. What the fuck are they smoking?
I certainly don't want any of it if it leaves you stupid.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-05 11:25 PM
Response to Original message
19. Comparing John Tesh to Ludwig Van Beethoven
Edited on Sun Jan-23-05 11:25 PM by zulchzulu
I can't stomach the phoniness and utterly transparent and awful attempt at trying to be "profound" than to hear Chimp's speech.

The mere fact that the words "freedom" were uttered at the same time some cop was spraying an American protester with pepper spray near where I was standing made my blood rage...I've never been so ashamed of America and am still recovering from the absolute horror I feel from seeing so many people adoring this flim-flam man.

What a fraud....an absolute fraud.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-24-05 12:01 AM
Response to Original message
20. Deleted message
Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.
 
marcologico Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-24-05 12:05 AM
Response to Original message
21. Well, look at it this way: what other moral compass do they have,
besides maybe the Bible, which I'm sure Dubya's never read? Basically the NeoCons are in a pickle and reaching for the best cover they can find.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-24-05 01:42 AM
Response to Original message
22. yeah, same speech, only a dumb, evil and demented version of it
:eyes:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
zann725 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-24-05 03:37 AM
Response to Original message
23. My response: "You're NO John Kennedy."
Not by a long shot!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-24-05 12:46 PM
Response to Original message
25. They can certainly compare the speeches!!!
But unless they are on serious drugs, they can only come to one conclusion: JFK gave one of the finest speeches in inaugural history, and the bozo's speech, crafted by seven or so different guys and rewritten twenty two times, SUCKED. That's the only conclusion you can come to--one speech memorable, the other not. One superb, the other lousy.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-05 06:10 PM
Response to Original message
27. The -ahem-esteemed Liberman compared
JFK and FDR's speeches to Blivet's today during hearings.:eyes:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Tue Apr 23rd 2024, 10:35 PM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion: Presidential (Through Nov 2009) Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC