Texas Church Opens Tsunami victims' eyes to deception of Buddhism

[Ian David]

OPENING HIS EYES FROM THE DECEPTION AND EMPTINESS OF BUDDHISM!!!!

Tsunami Relief Effort - Dawn Manoleas - 16 Jan 2005

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Update on the ACC Teams sent to Sri Lanka and Indonesia. Please pass it on and please pray for the teams there and those that are back as they debrief and recover. appreciate your faithfulness.. God is doing GREAT things in the mist of this disaster.

Subject: Sri Lanka and Indonesia Teams from Antioch Community Church

Dear Friends: Sunday, January 16, 2005

Much has happened since I last communicated with you. Our team arrived in Sri Lanka and we have hit the ground running, continuing the good work our first team began over two weeks ago. As internet access in a third world country can be hit or miss (particularly with the damage done by the tsunami), I will give you the highlights.

The drive from Colombo to Tangalla (130 miles taking 8 hours), was one of the most difficult experiences of my life. Television cannot portray the unfathomable amount of devastation and destruction visible on this coastline drive. I will only say that fighting back tears for hours and hours was my own personal experience. As our first team to Sri Lanka split into two teams (one going to the east coast and one staying south), our second wave here did the same. We are team three of four so far (with more coming). We are based in Tangalla (Tango as it is called by Sri Lankas), spending most of our time, energy and resources here. God guided our first team to a refugee camp from a fishing village whose homes and boats were almost a complete loss. Its name is Morakatiara. There are four hundred people, 87 families, living in an unfinished government housing project with no running water or electricity. The housing project is only twenty yards from the location of the original village.

Many other camps are located in schools and large shelters along the coast. God has allowed us to adopt this camp and the ramifications for the Kingdom are amazing. We have been serving these families by providing medical care (four nurses and a dentist) and we have distributed great quantities of medicine and vitamins. We have also delivered to each family a first aid kit and have given them instructions as to caring for simple medical needs.

As we treat the body, we always ask if we can pray for them and in virtually every case, they are happy to let us pray. Meeting this important and practical need has been a huge blessing to them and to us! We also brought with us enough school supplies and curriculum to do two hours of school for ages two through twelve for at least two weeks. Yesterday was day one for the children and you cannot imagine the sheer joy on the faces of these children, and their parents, as they learned, played games, sang songs, drew pictures and, in short, did something that resembles normalcy for them for perhaps the first time since the "big wave" took so much of their lives away.

The atmosphere in the camp changed dramatically as mothers and fathers watched their children at school and then received with delight the pictures the children had drawn. We had no idea how impacting school would be. God has granted our teams favor with some of the leaders here which is making our work go smoothly and adding credibility to anything we do. One of our main contacts is the second in command with the Sri Lankan Navy installation here in Tango. They are overseeing all of the refugee camps in Sri Lanka and he is truly a friend and an ally. He is providing men virtually every day to assist with our team's efforts. Yesterday, we delivered to every family a small cooker which will allow the women to cook in their homes instead of having to come out and cook over a fire on the ground. These uniformed navy men are thrilled with what we are doing for their people and are most enthusiastic to help us.

There are also army personnel from Kandi who are on location. As we serve and love these dear people, we have been given a remarkable opportunity in a relief effort, that is to build relationships with the people we are helping. Most aid workers come to a camp, drop supplies and leave having never learned one name or heard one story of the victims. Not only are we learning names (though we need help with Sri Lankan names) but we are being invited into homes for meals (by the way, they really like spicy food, I learned from experience!), they are telling us their stories about the day their world changed and we are becoming friends. They are the most generous and hospitable people I have ever met. As we build relationships, we are sharing the gospel, praying for them and loving them in every way we can...and it is making a difference.

One of the elders of the village, Tudai in whose home we shared a meal the day before, when asked how his heart was doing replied with great emotion, "since your people have come and have cared for us, my heart is much better, thank you thank you thank you." Two days earlier he could hardly speak of his sadness and his concern about the future. "I am a fisherman and with no boat, how can I work, and with no work, how can I rebuild my home?" He is still grieving a great loss, not of a family member, but of a life he has known for decades. I shared with him that the God who created him and the sea, loves him so much
that He willingly gave His son to live and die for him. It wasn't a natural disaster that took the life of Jesus. He gave it willingly because of His great love for him and for me. I prayed for him, asking God to transform his life with the power of the Holy Spirit, opening his eyes from the deception and emptiness of Buddhism, allowing him to see and know the one true God. Pray with me for the soul of Tudai and his family. His son accepted Jesus last week and is starting to read the book of John. God is moving in this village and in this nation! We believe this is their hour.

{OPENING HIS EYES FROM THE DECEPTION AND EMPTINESS OF BUDDHISM!!!!}

We are working on a proposal that will allow us to be the provider of permanent homes for these families. If this happens, we believe this will be a major breakthrough in seeing perhaps this entire village come to Christ. I can't go into detail now, but please pray for us and for them as this is a spiritual stronghold of major proportions.

We are being challenged mightily by those whose interests do not want to see Christ and His Church gain ground in Sri Lanka. More of this later. Pray IICor.10:3-5. God is moving,

He is caring for us as we care for these. More later.. Pray for Sri Lanka! Blessings,

Pat Pat Murphy Executive Director, Global Hope

More:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=132&topic_id=1523845#

[BrklynLiberal]

1. In a word...........

:puke:

[shance]

2. Forcing religion on desperate, beleaguered people with their own faith.

What could be more absent of God?

[Walt Starr]

3. The Texas church is the best example of blatant evil I have ever seen

Pure evil. No other word comes close to describing them.

[Nederland]

6. C'mon Walt

Evil? If a group of Buddists came to a disaster area, delivering much needed food and medicine, and oh, happened to share their beliefs with the victims, would you say they were evil? I don't see any sign that the missionaries (if that is the right word here, I don't know) are restricting the delivery of help only to those that accept Jesus, and the writer points out that they always ask if a person would like to pray with them. It seems to me that they are giving people a choice as to whether or not they want to listen.

[Walt Starr]

16. Yes, outright blatant EVIL

First off, Buddhists would not do what you say they would.

I'm sorry, but anybody who would do what this Texas group is doing is blatantly evil.

[Nederland]

17. I guess we disagree

For me, pure evil is a person that kidnaps small children, rapes them and then kills them.

For you, evidently, pure evil is a person that delivers food and medicine and preaches their faith to strangers.

I think your attitude is a perfect example of why Democrats don't have a prayer (pun intended) of capturing the church going public in elections.

[Bouncy Ball]

19. Um, you do realize that plenty of church going people

vote Dem, right?

What an ignorant statement.

[Nederland]

26. Misunderstood

By "capturing" I mean winning a majority of their votes. I think that the idea that Democrats significantly trail Republicans among church goers is not only not ignorant, but in fact well documented.

[Walt Starr]

21. I agree on your first example of pure evil

but mind raping little children after they've lost everything, such as the mind raping this Texas outfit is performing, is every bit as evil and potentially will affect more people.

[Nederland]

28. Really?

Are you saying that there is moral equivalence between murderers and missionaries delivering humantitarian aid?

[Walt Starr]

29. Yes, in fact, I am

The mind rapers from Texas, in fact, could cause more harm to more people with their evil agenda.

Proselytizing is perhaps the most evil action religion ever engaged in.

[Nederland]

32. Now I'm sure

I'm not guessing anymore. I'm certain. We disagree.

Isn't DU great? :)

[Warren DeMontague]

24. If you can't manage to deliver chariatble aid

...to victims of a MASSIVE HUMAN DISASTER...

without glomming on to it as an "opportunity" to score points by proseltyzing, I'm sorry, but you have a fucking problem.

And, you should let the professionals handle the relief.

Maybe the next time a Hurricane hits Texas we should send some folks from the Castro district here in SF down to try to persuade the locals on the benefits of gay marriage.

Or envision this. A disaster hits your local bible-thumping berg, and a bunch of my fellow atheists and secular humanists come down with trucks full of supplies-- but while we're at it, we make a point of pulling your little tykes away and telling them, "um, I hate to break it to you kids, but God, Jesus, that whole rigamarole.. they're like imaginary friends for adults. Total, utter figment of their imagination. Do yourself a favor-- and don't believe a word of it"

Um, How do you suppose that kind of thing would go over?

[Nederland]

27. Read my Post

I never said that what was going on was my preference. I would of course prefer that aid be delivered without some sort of religious message. My many objection was to the hyperbolic assertion that these people are "evil". It just seems a bit of a stretch to me. Then again, you are entitled to believe that missionaries delivering aid are on par with murders and rapists if you so chose.

[Warren DeMontague]

35. I didn't say that they were "on par with murderers and rapists..."

(what am I, the US justice system dealing with a non-violent drug offender?)

Rather, I merely said they were way out of line. Seriously.

[Vinnie From Indy]

31. LOL Well Done! n/t

[melnjones]

38. THANK YOU

Someone with some common sense in regards to the Christianity bashing that's so rampant around here. It's refreshing.

[Warren DeMontague]

45. Okay, so, the next time a Hurricane hits Texas, I'm heading on down

with my books on Darwin and Quantum physics. My wife will bring her Menorah and a big box full of yarmulkes. I'll get some gay friends to come along and see how many red state dudes they can "queer eye"... We'll accompany our "relief work" with a big, heaping helping of patronizing, smarmy-ass preaching and proseltyzing.. and we'll see how much the would-be "Christians" like it, as they're in the middle of trying to put their lives back together..

[QC]

57. Better example than the Holocaust? Pol Pot's march into the countryside?

The Spanish Inquisition? The Cultural Revolution? Stalin's deliberate starvation of millions of Ukrainians?

[Walt Starr]

62. Every last one of those is the ultimate end to what these evil bastards

have begun.

[DesEtoiles]

64. Yes - Read the Poinsonwood Bible. Misguided fool missionary gets reality

in the jungles of the Congo.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

4. She forgot to mention that "God" is the author of all..including tsunamis.

So, according to her belief system, she's doing God's work helping the survivors of what God did.

She is undoubtedly blessed with a blindness to irony.

[GRLMGC]

5. Motherfuckers!

Have I mentioned how much these people piss me off?

[Fortunato]

9. Nope...

...go ahead and say it again. :)

More seriously, without taking sides, I'm simply going to point out a tacit assumption in this thread -- that the Asian people do not have the ability to weigh what the missionaries are doing and then make decisions on their own about what they'd like to believe, religiously.

Let's assume they're not imbeciles being "brainwashed" by the evil missionaries but people who are weighing a lifetime of one belief system versus about four weeks of another.

Whether the missionaries are deplorable, then, is rather irrelevant. If someone wants to toss a lifetime of a traditional faith for whatever faith the missionaries are preaching... I'm going to assume they were disillusioned with their prior belief system, and they find the new one "more real" to them.

And if what the missionaries are preaching doesn't ring true with them, despite the fact the missionaries have taken care of many of their needs, then they're not going to "convert" -- no matter what the missionaries might say.

Let's give the Asian people a little credibility here. They're not passive victims waiting to be proselytized. They have the ability to draw their own conclusions and accept or reject what they're hearing.

[charlie]

10. No assumptions

It's the local Christians and the other Christian aid groups who are upset with the Waco crowd. They've warned these guys that what they're doing is endangering the Christian minority and wrecking the opportunity to ease tensions through the interfaith cooperation that the disaster has provided. They've been told to knock it off, but don't seem to be listening. That's what makes their missionary zeal outrageous.

[Nederland]

12. Well said (nt)

[Ian David]

13. People shocked and traumatized are not in a position to "weigh" anything

Why do you think con-artists so often prey upon grieving widows?

Like the psychic readers that say, "Your inheritance money is cursed. Transfer it into my bank account so I can cleanse it of evil spirits before I give it back to you."

Don't laugh! It's happened more than once!

Psychics, mediums, and con-artists of various stripes have been living off the suffering of others for thousands of years.

And "Christian" missionaries have made it a high art form.

Why do you think Mother Theresa stayed in Calcutta so long, instead of selling her snake oil on the Upper West Side of Manhattan?

[ThorsHammer]

34. Agreed for the most part, but WTF are you talking about with Mother Teresa

IIRC, she left a comfortable life in Europe and dedicated her whole life to the poor. I don't think she "preyed" on anyone, but was there just to help. She lived an extremely simple life w/o luxury, and lived with the people who needed the help. There are missionaries, preachers, etc who do take advantage, but Mother Teresa is far from this.

[Warren DeMontague]

43. Mother Teresa: myth vs. reality

You might want to dig a little deeper.

http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Cafe/9653/teresa.html

http://www.ffrf.org/fttoday/august96/hakeem.html

(And, yes, I know that Christopher Hitchens is a bloated, bloviating, neo-con asshat.. Nevertheless with regards to MT and Henry K., he has done some good work)

http://www.secularhumanism.org/library/fi/hitchens_16_4.html

http://globetrotter.berkeley.edu/Elberg/Hitchens/hitchens-con4.html

[melnjones]

40. I cannot believe you just dissed Mother Teresa.

That's not even worthy of a rebuttal.

[Warren DeMontague]

42. There are PLENTY of reasons to "dis" Mother Teresa.

She had good PR people, that's about it.

Many of us don't think her steadfast opposition to birth control in dirt-poor overpopulated parts of the world was particularly helpful, among other things. She opposed the use of any painkillers for terminally ill people in horrible pain (sort of like John Ashcroft).. There are serious questions about the use and misuse of funds on her part.

More on Mother Teresa:

http://www.secularhumanism.org/library/fi/shields_18_1.html

[ThorsHammer]

44. Thanks, I'll check those out

I do think there's a marked difference between someone who lives her whole life with the poor and is dedicated to them, and others who come in to help but also preach.

[Warren DeMontague]

46. According to "empty" Buddhism;

the purest work seeks no recognition whatsoever, in fact it avoids it.

I acknowledge that Mother Theresa did some good things, (along with some what I consider to be not-so-good things) but I think after a while her legend and institution took on a life of it's own.

[ThorsHammer]

53. Fair enough; IMO she wasn't perfect, but had good inentions (nt)

[bobbyboucher]

30. Sorry,

these people aren't thinking clearly and who could blame them. It would be far more human to just go there and lend a hand, rather than to take advantage of their current state of being and try to peddle your beliefs like you are scoring points for every "turn".

I find it quite pathetic really.

[GRLMGC]

33. Yeah

but how would you feel if someone told you your religion was empty? It'd sure make me mad. I'm sure the tsunami victims have other things to worry about.

[melnjones]

41. That's what people on DU tell me everyday.

Actually, they take it way farther than that, calling it evil and assuming awful things about the whole lot of us. It gets a little annoying, but it's certainly nothing life-altering.

[Cha]

51. And what's even more dispicable is

these converters helped get bush in for another four dreadful years..so don't tell me they know shit from shinola.

Talk about E-M-P-T-Y!

Like Walt says..it's Evil!

[melnjones]

39. Welcome to DU!

I agree 100% with what you just said. Thanks for putting that out there.

[AgadorSparticus]

47. have you ever gone through mindblowing trauma? you're

not exactly thinking straight.

they are vulnerable and these so called christians are exploiting a horrible situation to further their agenda. there is no christ in what they are doing. like walt said, this is pure evil.

[rumpel]

65. under extreme circumstances, loss, grief and confusion it sounds like

exploitation. Just as Rice commented on the tsunami: "It was a wonderful opportunity for the United States".
The majority will go back to their own beliefs as soon as the foreigners are gone, it is the basis of the culture and society in Sri Lanka.

[musette_sf]

7. sent them an email message

telling them of their evil, and that Jesus the Christ would not acknowledge them were he alive today.

[charlie]

8. Huhn

They took down the field reports that were up yesterday. All the giddy, breathless accounts of conversions and miracle healings are gone. The two left are a couple of sedate pieces detailing supplies disbursed, treatment rendered. Looks like they're suddenly wary of the world eyeballing what they're up to.

[Ian David]

14. What was the link? We can check the google cache and Wayback Machine

:)

[charlie]

15. Already checked Google

They were too new, hadn't been spidered yet. It's even less likely they'll be in the Internet Archive.

[Ian David]

22. Did you check for backwards links?

Maybe someone quoted the page and then referenced it?

[charlie]

23. Yeah, I did

Google hasn't indexed any referral pages.

[msongs]

11. desperate people are always suckers for this kind of stuff and

once they have their basic needs met and the evil doers leave town, will they still honor those who would only give them food in exchange for prostituting core beliefs?

Msongs
www.msongs.com/political-shirts.htm

[Bouncy Ball]

18. That is disgusting.

I will give you food if you worship my God. Disgusting.

Forcing them to give up the comfort of their own faith for some practical help they need.

These people would better serve Christianity by working so hard to help them with food, water, clothing, shelter, medical needs and education that they don't even have time to beat their chests about their beliefs.

My family doctor went to Sri Lanka. I know he is a Methodist and very heavily involved in his church. I have an appointment with him Thursday. I am going to ask him if he did any missionary work while he was there. If he did, I can honestly tell him I have to find a new doctor's office. I cannot abide taking advantage of those people in order to force them to worship a new God.

[RetroLounge]

20. This is why everyday I thank god I am not Christian.

RL

[Lydia Leftcoast]

25. Fundamentalist missionaries are ill-informed and tone-deaf about

local cultures, doing things like trying to evangelize in Afghanistan (where the penalty for renouncing Islam was death) or, earlier, announcing their determination to "Christianize" Russia. (Russia has its own form of Christianity, which has existed for literally 1000 years).

They go around in Japan trying to tell people who have received a good scientific education in school that the theory of evolution is evil and that they more or less have to stop being Japanese in order to be saved (no more traditional festivals, you know).

There are many paths to the Infinite, and while a person may occasionally find a more congenial path outside of his or her own culture (witness all the American Buddhists), it's arrogant to come in and act as if you have the whole truth.

[flobee1kenobi]

36. Very wrong

"We are being challenged mightily by those whose interests do not want to see Christ and His Church gain ground in Sri Lanka"

If that is all these people are there for-to "gain ground"-then I dont care how much you argue-ITS WRONG!
These people need real help-not someone saying it won't get better until you believe in our god! They are more than justified in kicking us out.

[Lisa]

37. "deception and emptiness"?

That little aside was pretty revealing, after the author had portrayed how humble and self-effacing they are being. And implying that they are being threatened by powerful interests, without even considering that there might be legitimate concerns ... wow.

I guess they believe that faiths other than Christianity are illegitimate? I suppose the rationale might be that religions which pre-date Christianity (like Buddhism) are obsolete, and religions which are more recent than Christianity are clearly fake.

I know it's possible to be a devout Christian without being haughty and "holier than thou" -- I know many such -- and they wouldn't go into a disaster zone with ulterior motives.

[leesa]

48. Man, I despise these Christian assholes. I have traveled many places

in the world and one of the most consistently happy and content peoples I have ever seen have been Buddhists.

These bastards are working overtime to bring their constipated hate religion to these wonderful people.

[htuttle]

49. LOL! I just can't get over the irony of that title!

"Texas Church Opens Tsunami victims' eyes to deception of Buddhism"

The deception of Buddhism? A Christian church FROM TEXAS is going to reveal the illusion about the one philosophy on the planet who's sole point is to avoid and remove illusion (as well as being personally humble, frugal and compassionate).

What can they possibly say to them? Buddha was not a god? They know that already! That the Veil of Illusion is an illusion? Of course it is! Five pounds of flax, Reverend! Five pounds of flax!

People will say they believe anything if they are hungry and you got the food...

[Cha]

52. The fundies in this Country are the ones

who are working from pure deception..gouging bush down our throats.

[southlandshari]

59. Pax Christi folks are NOT the enemy!

Not sure if the picture of Pax Christi New Orleans members was meant to illustrate your point about fundamentalists and pure deception, but this world could use more Christians like them. I think most here would agree....

http://paxchristino.org/

(don't miss the "cost of the Iraq war" real time counter and the piece on US soldiers speaking out against the war.


Their mission statement:

In a world that settles differences by armed violence and
defines "justice" as "revenge", Pax Christi dares to break the
cycle of violence by fostering reconciliation.

Pax Christi USA is the national Catholic peace movement of
14,000 members who are committed to the Gospel imperative of
nonviolence. Our membership includes over 550 religious
communities: over 450 parish sponsors; over 140 bishops; over
130 Young Adult Forum members; approximately 230 Pax Christi
local groups; and 18 regions that coordinate activities in their
geographic areas.

The work of Pax Christi begins in personal life and
extends to communities of reflection and action to transform
structures of society. Pax Christi rejects war and every form
of violence and domination. It advocates primacy of conscience,
economic and social justice and respect for creation.
Pax Christi commits itself to peace education and, with the
help of its bishop members, promotes the Gospel imperative of
peacemaking as a priority in the Catholic Church in the United
States. Through the efforts of all its members and in
cooperation with other groups, Pax Christi works toward a more
peaceful, just and sustainable world.

Pax Christi New Orleans is a section of Pax Christi USA,
the national Catholic peace movement.

[Cha]

63. Of course, the Pax Christi was Not

used to "illustrate my point".

Sorry, that you thought that. And thanks for all the info on the Pax Christi..I think they are Wonderful!

[zulchzulu]

50. Paging Jesus Christ! Courtesy phone for Jesus Christ!

Operator:
Hello? Is that you? Jesus?

Jesus:
Um...yeah. It's me. How are you, Donna? Your father will be alright.

Operator:
WHAT? You know...my name? How did you know about my Dad?

Jesus:
(sort of yawning) Whatever...'sup Donna? Oh, those damn theocrats again...I thought I taught them a lesson... hold on....OK...better.

Operator:
So have you heard about those dudes in Indonesia...

Jesus:
(mildly interrupting) ...with the condemnation of Buddha somehow relating to the tsunami...which by the way, I'm a little pissed off with Dad...

Operator:
Yeah...I mean yes, Jesus! So...um...what are you going to do?

Jesus:
Well, for one, I'm going to have my party, the Democrats, win in 2006 and 2008. I'm just sick and tired of Satan taking over America and having that burning Bush there in the White...

Operator:
(interupting)...ya mean you're not a Republican? If I told my crazy sister...

Jesus:
Donna, no can do on the GOP thing. You read Mark 11:15-17, right? Where I said "Is it not written, 'My house shall be called a house of prayer for all the nations'? But you have made it a den of robbers."

Anyway, I'm independent really...sort of Green actually...but I would never be a Repug.

You hungry? I see you have a can of tuna fish and some crackers...

[Carolab]

54. Did anyone here read in The Nation what Frist did in Sri Lanka?

Apparently he was wandering around there and paused for a "photo op" and was heard instructing his aide to "get some of the destruction in the back".

[Cha]

55. I just saw this on buzzflash.com..I

thought it would go well here..

Snips~

The Scandal of the Evangelical Conscience
Why don't Christians live what they preach?
By Ronald J. Sider

Scandalous behavior is rapidly destroying American Christianity. By their daily activity, most "Christians" regularly commit treason. With their mouths they claim that Jesus is Lord, but with their actions they demonstrate allegiance to money, sex, and self-fulfillment.

It is not surprising that George Barna concludes, "Every day, the church is becoming more like the world it allegedly seeks to change."4 We have very little time, he believes, to reverse these trends. African Christian and famous missions scholar Professor Lamin Sanneh told Christianity Today recently that "the cultural captivity of Christianity in the West is nearly complete, and with the religion tamed, it is open season on the West's Christian heritage. I worry about a West without a moral center facing a politically resurgent Islam."5



More at..
http://www.christianitytoday.com/bc/2005/001/3.8.html

[LittleClarkie]

56. I was with them until the last three paragraphs

Couldn't they have left it at that. They were doing good. If these people then want to ask about the nice American's religion, fine. But there something about the last three paragraphs that bugs me.

I fell victim to the hard sell via 700 Club and such when I was 18. I'm better now, and going my own way religiously, but certain evangelicals still make my teeth itch.

[southlandshari]

58. Surprise - same church sponsored the two women in Afghanistan in 2001

If I missed this in an earlier post, sorry!

Antioch congregation in Waco also trained and supported the two young women who were held by the Taliban in 2001 at the time of the US invasion. The two were young and not very knowledgable about local customs, language or religious traditions (other than how to subvert them and persuade the most vulnerable to be "saved"). This church seems hell-bent (excuse the pun) on sending forth "missionaries" with a convert-at-any-cost brand of evangelism.

Just one link (I'm sure a google search would provide many more for those who can stomach it):

http://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2001/150/22.0.html

[Azathoth]

60. I'm usually the first person to defend Christian aid workers

But these guys are going way over the line. If you read between the lines, it's pretty clear that the instant Ms. Murphy and her band of do-gooders decide that the villagers do not intend to accept their offer to "come unto Christ," their bags will be packed and they will be off to the next village before you can say "jesus is lord".

[kerrygoddess]

61. I hate this sort of stuff from the "Christians"

There's nothing Christian about these people!

Separation of Church and State Quotes: http://www.lightupthedarkness.org/blog/default.asp?view=plink&id=267

[rumpel]

66. It confirms the ignorance, disrespect and arrogance of these people.