Did anyone else see Richard Viguerie on The Daily Show tonight?

[Der Blaue Engel]

Chairman of American Target Advertising. His talk about the conservative agenda and its use of direct marketing since Barry Goldwater gave me the chills.

Is there any way we can ever defeat these people? Will what we're doing now with Internet activism be able to combat the 30-some years of their insidious, aggressive, calculated propaganda machine?

[Skittles]

1. taped it, sounds interesting

I'm not sure what is going on - I swear it is some sort of psychosis in America - there are those of us who aren't fooled in the least yet others are so easily fooled you wonder WTF is happening

[Occulus]

2. a sorting of souls, perhaps?

We all know they want Armageddon. Let's call their bluff. They are the ones deceived, sooooo........ :evilgrin:

[AntiCoup2K4]

3. Actually, I'm considering reading his book.

The guy really didn't seem to want to be associated with todays neocons. He took credit for Bush's election, to some extent, but didn't really say anything else complimentary of the Fraudministration.

In any event, regardless of the right wing message, or even the blatant dishonesty of the recent hybrids of it, you can't deny that their "alternative media" approach worked.

And now that conservatives dominate virtually all of the "regular" media, we would do well to take notes from someone like Vigurie and create our own alternative media. I'll bet Howard Dean's considering this one for his reading list, if he hasn't read it already.

[eg101]

4. how can we defeat them? Well, we can quit yammering about politicians

Stop talking and worrying about politicians. Stop supporting them. OK?

Now start supporting IDEAS. And start supporting mechanisms of SPREADING IDEAS.

What ideas? Well, for starters, the ideas in this Newsweek International Edition:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6857387/site/newsweek

Take those basic ideas and embellish them, flesh them out, and then target crucial parts of America for dissemination of these ideas.

What parts of America? The early primary states: IA and NH. And then the rural areas of the crucial swing states: OH, PA, FL, WI.

Disseminate these ideas through newspapers, flyers, radio and TV.

We will need to raise money online to pay for the spots. Advertise online using prototypes of the stories, informercials, etc that we will be using.

Start now. Then if we have done a good job, in 2008, all the Democrats will be running to the Left, and likely the REpublicans will, too.

[Cell Whitman]

5. Viguerie - another one Moon bailed out and kept in the game

Moon selected who he wanted to empower, who HE wanted to bubble up on the right - and he financed a mess of them.

Moon has more to do with our political situation than ANYONE. People will see it when they look.


http://www.politicalamazon.com/viguerie.html

"Richard Viguerie says he did some 'pro bono' organizing work for the World Anti-Communist League during the 1970s, and his ties to WACL may have had something to do with his winning the lucrative fundraising contract for the "Children's Relief Fund," sponsored by the Moonies' Korean Cultural and Freedom Foundation. That was in 1977--precisely the period when Viguerie was starting to organize the New Right resentment against the Carter administration. New York State charity auditors found that less than 6.3 percent of the $1,508,256 Viguerie raised actually went to needy Korean children. The "charity" went to Richard Viguerie, who netted a fee of more than $920,000."....

"In 1986, Viguerie was on the bring of bankruptcy when the Unification Church again came to his aid financially. In late 1985, Viguerie had been forced to sell "Conservative Digest." In January 1986, eight of his creditors filed suit for a total of $2.3 million owed to them. At the same time, Viguerie had to put his $9 million office building in Fairfax, Virginia up for sale.

"Just as he was about to go under in early 1986, Viguerie won a lucrative account, the distribution of the Unification Church-owned "Insight "magazine. Then in October 1987, U.S. Property Development Corporation controlled by Rev. Moon's right-hand man, Col. Bo Hi Pak, paid $10.06 million for Viguerie's office building. Also in 1987, Viguerie took on the direct mail account of Moonie-dominated American Freedom Coalition (discussed below). Just as U.S. intelligence agencies have financed and organized right-wing political groups throughout the world, it was to the advantage of well-heeled international interests to help build a reactionary political movement within the United States."
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http://www.consortiumnews.com/archive/moon3.html

Another element of Moon's strategy is to approach a conservative leader when he's financially down. Moon quietly infuses money and gains the leader's gratitude. Again, Viguerie is an example of that tactic. When he fell on hard times in the late 1980s, Moon directed more business his way and had a corporation run by Moon's lieutenant, Bo Hi Pak, buy one of Viguerie's properties for $10 million. ( Orange County Register, Dec. 21, 1987 / Washington Post, Oct. 15, 1989)

With Moon's timely intervention, Viguerie survived financially and remains an important fixture in conservative political campaigns to this day. When Iran-contra figure Oliver North ran for the U.S. Senate in Virginia in 1994, his principal direct-mail contractor was Viguerie's company, according to Federal Election Commission records.
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learn more about the man who made it happen for the new republican party.No Moon No Bush!!!

http://cellwhitman.blogspot.com/

[Vektor]

6. For being a staunch conservative....

I thought he was fair, and pretty personable.

[burythehatchet]

7. yes, exactly

you are getting sleeeeeeeepy, sleeeeeeeeeeeeeepy

[Vektor]

8. Wait!

What are you saying?
(yeah, actually I am a little tired.)

[bettyellen]

9. kicking because the rerun is on right now........

and hello betty!

[Der Blaue Engel]

10. I don't know what to think of this guy, let me know what your take is

I was only half-paying attention while reading DU when it was on, but I got a bad feeling when I listened for a minute.

I am very leery of anything coming out of the mouth of an avowed conservative who has an explicit agenda for making the country more conservative.

They say Hitler was charming.