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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-05 08:10 AM
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C-SPAN now--Stabenow--She will vote for Rice
Edited on Tue Jan-25-05 08:12 AM by Skidmore
Thinks that "the President, within reason, should have his staff". What is wrong with these people. Don't they realize that this is a tacit endorsement of a policy of torture and human rights violations? I'm pretty disgusted now. I wish I were someplace where I could call in but I'm not. Is someone else willing to give this woman a clue?

Said top of Dem agenda is "effective intelligence" for the nation's safety. How does a policy of torture ensure this?

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Spinzonner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-05 08:16 AM
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1. It's Advise and Consent

NOT Rubber Stamp

As a Cabinet Member she represents the United States, not the President.
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-05 08:19 AM
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3. She very neatly parsed her response to the question of
why the vote for Rice. The offical line is that as NCS, Rice wasn't representing her own policies, but *s. That is pure BS. * is famous for his propensity to delegate stuff and wait for a product. He's handoff until then. Between Gonzalez and Rice, you find the architects of this very policy.
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BayCityProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-05 08:17 AM
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2. Stabenow is my Senator
and usually makes me happy...but I do wish she voted against Rice.
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Pam-Moby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-05 08:19 AM
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4. Stabenow is my Senator
and I still can not believe that these Dems are acting as if there are no problems with this administration. They are just laying down and being run over. I had emailed and called her office before the Electoral vote and stated that we need strong democratic representatives serving us!!! I see that they are still just flowing with whatever this administration wants to do. We need to replace these weak dem representatives with more progressive people who stand for our values!!!
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Atman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-05 08:29 AM
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5. You're forgetting some things...
Edited on Tue Jan-25-05 08:36 AM by Atman
Blackmail.

Hart Senate Office Building.

Anthrax.

Six weeks of unfettered access to all offices and files and computers and everything in that building while BushCo "inspectors" scoured the place for germs, or ??.

This is my ultimate tin-foil theory, but dammit, it sure explains a LOT -- Daschle, and every other Dem rolling over like a happy puppy waiting for a belly rub. No one even talking about catching the anthrax guy anymore. Why not? Because it wasn't about the anthrax, it was about getting access to the Democratic offices to find playbooks, closeted skeletons, anything.

All but the squeaky-cleaniest of Senators likely survived the scouring without something for BushCo to use against them when the close votes came down the pike.

Don't roll your eyes...think about it. Think about the whole anthrax fiasco and who it's "victims" were. The media and the democrats.

Hmmmmmm. "Sit, stay. Do as your told, or else. We already have the goods."

NotBannedYet.US - 1st Amendment Zone
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-05 08:31 AM
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6. All the more reason to stand up and fight this crap.
It's a good thing that our founding fathers did sit down and and whimper when the first shots of the revolution were fired. These people need to stand up and find ways to marshall support. Sunshine is the best disinfectant. How about a little truth for the public?
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roenyc Donating Member (824 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-05 08:34 AM
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8. Yup!! i like the way you think NT
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roenyc Donating Member (824 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-05 08:32 AM
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7. i love that the dems are giving her a hard time right now! NT
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CWebster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-05 08:35 AM
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9. Callers reflect division?
And what and who do you reflect?
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roenyc Donating Member (824 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-05 08:36 AM
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10. Someone just called and spoke about racism
ugh, in regard to byrd speaking. you know the conservatives have really done their job through fox. this guy said he was upset that jesse jackson isnt standing up for rice!!

well maybe jesse should come out and explain a few things on the fox news channel that this has nothing to do with skin color!!
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CWebster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-05 08:37 AM
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11. Explain it to Obama too. nt
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John_H Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-05 09:38 AM
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12. She just fucked up my 100% percent accurate so far vote count.
I had her down for a no.
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