Hey Ken Salazar, I knew there was a reason I didn't support you

[tridim]

You're a DINO, and a worthless Senator. You're going to be a one-termer because you suck.

BTW, Salazar just said he supports Rice for SoS.

[Nederland]

1. Yeah

Let's make voting against Rice a litmus test for all Democrats. That way we can loose even more seats in 2006. Great idea!

[orthogonal]

7. We don't need seats -- we need Dems who stand for something

Let's make voting against Rice a litmus test for all Democrats. That way we can loose (sic) even more seats in 2006. Great idea!

What's them point of keeping Democrats in office if they don't uphold our values, or vote as if they are Republicans?

I mean, unless your goal is just to open up jobs on the Hill for democratic staffers, or make life lucrative for Democrat lobbyists -- in which case you're right, all that matters is the "D" after the senators' names.

[tridim]

8. Go ahead.. Support the DINO's

and you'll get exactly what you want. Republican lite.

I'm not falling for it, I'll continue to support real Democrats. For the record, I voted for Salazar. It's not like I really had a choice.. It was either him or the Nazi drug dealer, Pete Coors.

[Nederland]

22. DINO?

You label him a DINO based upon a single vote? Give me a break. If Salazar complies a Republican-lite voting record over the next couple years I'll start listening to your complaints. Till then you're obviously just a whiner who doesn't tolerate anyone who disagrees with you on anything.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

24. DINOS Only Exist On This Board...

I see Dianne Feinstein got the DINO tag...

She has a 90% ADA rating....


Blue voters in red states would die to have a senator like her...


Some well intentioned but politically naive people on this board couldn't come up with a program that would get their candidate elected dog catcher...

[lachattefolle]

2. Talking about Rice's candor, LOL

[Walt Starr]

3. The party is rife with DINOs

The Republicans went years remaining in the inority while purging the RINOs.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

6. With Some Brief Interregnums The Republicans Were Out Of Power For Sixty

Years....


That's a long time.....

[Justitia]

4. Good God, he was TERRIBLE

He said right off the bat, I'm voting for her, then went on to a mumbling monologue about something, putting me right to sleep.

AWFUL SPEAKER.

[otohara]

11. Horrible Speaker - Better Than Coors

I was a mike miles delegate - at the denver convention Salazar spoke - omg - he was so awful. had to address the rumor that he would turn GOP after election.

[Southsideirish]

5. The "soils" of Europe?" That's a comment he made during his craven

speech.

[fooj]

9. Hey there1 You obviously live in Colorado! What's with this jerk?

You guys know what to do...boot this ass out next term!! Geez!!! I shudder to think of Feinstein getting up to speak! She too, is a spineless wimp! Thank God we have Boxer! Feinstein is worthless! Not capping on Co.-California has its turncoats, as well! Peace!

[John_H]

10. Yup. Put a rethug in there.

I'm a one issue man with a 3rd party plan.

[Walt Starr]

12. so tell me, what the fuck is the difference between Salazar

and Lugar?

Seriously, what the fuck difference would a Repuke from Colorado actually make?

[DemocratSinceBirth]

14. Salazar Is New...

A fairer comparison would be Bayh and Lugar since Bayh is usually referred to here as GOP lite...


I'll bet Bayh's ADA scores are in the 70's while Lugar is in the 10's or so....

[Walt Starr]

16. So when you get down to brass tacks, not a whit of difference n/t

[DemocratSinceBirth]

17. The opposite....

Even folks we call DINOS on this board like Joe Lieberman, Hillary Clinton, and Evan Bayh have infinitely more progressive voting records than their Republican colleagues...

http://www.vote-smart.org/issue_rating_detail.php?sig_id=002936M

Here's an example:



IN U.S. Senate Sr Richard G. Lugar Republican 10
IN U.S. Senate Jr B. Evan Bayh Democrat 75


I'd rather have somebody who votes with us 75% of the time than somebody who votes with us 10% of the time....

Wouldn't you?

[DaveinMD]

30. that makes too much sense

it really doesn't fit into the way most people think around here.

[paulk]

18. there is a lot of difference between Salazar and Coors,

which was our choice

if you lived here you would know that

since you don't live here

why do you even care?

let me rephrase that in your vernacular

why the FUCK do you even care?

[DemocratSinceBirth]

19. Because Salazar Is A Senator And His Vote Affects All Of Us

That being said the animus against centrist Dems is misplaced as I demonstrated in an earlier post in this thread...


Walt should click on it and see the difference between so called DINOS and Republican voting patterns...


Renowned DU DINO Dianne Feinstein had an ADA rating of 90%....


What do these people want?

[Nederland]

23. Not really

Given that in this case even if every Democrat voted against Rice she would still be approved, a vote against would be merely symbolic.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

25. I Am Not Singling Out Any Individual Vote...

I am just saying globally I am affected by the vote of all 535 members of congress....

[Walt Starr]

32. Not true. If every Democrat was set to vote no, then they could filibuster

If every Democrat except for 5 were willing to vote no, they could still filibuster.

Filibuster means no SOS.

The Repukes did this to Clinton on the Surgeon General position.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

34. The Dems Could Filibuster From Now To Easter

Bats would fly out of my ass before Bush* pulled his girlfriend's nomination....

[Walt Starr]

35. He could make a recess appointment

but that doesn't last for his entire term.

End result, he has no Secretary of State until he can make a recess appointment.

[paulk]

28. it's just that I find the post I responded to

the usual "trash a democrat at every opportunity" whining, sniveling crap I've come to expect from DU.

I'm not thrilled with Salazar's position on this either, although I expected it - and as his constituent I intend to *respectfully* tell him why.

What do these people want? A forum to beat their chests and tear their hair out on...

[Nederland]

21. Exactly

Those of us that live in Colorado understand.

The rest of you can just fuck off...

[rockymountaindem]

26. Are you at all familiar with Allard?

[DemocratSinceBirth]

27. Yes...

He's a far right senator...

[gasperc]

13. Presidents should get thier nominees

although I hate Rice and Gonzales and think they are terrible choices, I will not disparage Democrats that vote to confirm.

Soon, I hope, a democrat will once again occupy the white house. And if the GOP continues to control congress they will make his nomination process hell the more partisan the confirmation vote is. not a good or even worthwhile reason but a likely one.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

15. Nominees That Lie Us Into War Lose That Presumption...

I will give a pass to red state Democratic senators who are up for election in 06 and don't want to give the Pugs an issue.....


The others, F them....

[Freddie Stubbs]

20. He ran as a moderate...

...no bait and switch here! The voters of CO got what they wanted.

[DaveinMD]

29. this board is truly amazing

Salazar is a good Democrat. A vote on a CABINET appointment doesn't change that. He's moderate as you must be to win statewide in Colorado.

[digno dave]

33. Kinda fills you in on why we can't get our sh*t together

The hard right, from 1992-96, had this guys same idea of how to run a party and it got them Bill Clinton for 8 years.

[digno dave]

31. Blowhard-er why don't you

[donheld]

36. Yea, i voted for Salazar only because

i didn't wanna vote for Coors. But i'd have liked a better choice. My gut feeling is that Salazar will turn out to be another turncoat like Nighthorse Campbell. God prove me wrong.