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Tue Jan-25-05 04:33 PM
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OFFICIAL thread #7 , Rice Senate Debate discussion |
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Tue Jan-25-05 04:35 PM
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1. Boxer closes on Martin Luther King quote again |
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Tue Jan-25-05 04:36 PM
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3. "responsibility counts" says Boxer!! |
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Tue Jan-25-05 04:36 PM
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7. Was that a groan from someone I heard on the air- THERE it is again! |
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Edited on Tue Jan-25-05 04:37 PM by kgfnally
Twice!
Anyone else catch that?
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Tue Jan-25-05 04:43 PM
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Wasn't sure if it was just a problem with my connection or what . . .
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Tue Jan-25-05 04:36 PM
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8. i think she is overusing that one IMO. |
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Tue Jan-25-05 04:35 PM
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2. Whether it was aluminum tubes, ties to aQaeda, the Iran Iraq war.... |
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Tue Jan-25-05 04:36 PM
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9. Boxer says that these questions needed to be asked-- |
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Tue Jan-25-05 04:36 PM
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4. i am of the opinion that the MSM can't ignore all of this evidence! |
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Tue Jan-25-05 04:38 PM
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They ignored all the evidence against the invasion and ignored 10 million who protested the invasion, and ignored the torture story (parroting the WH that it was just 'a few bad apples')
They will completely ignore this, or just play a couple of sound bites out of context and something like "those democrats just playing politics with our glorious Condi"
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Tue Jan-25-05 04:39 PM
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25. yes, unfortunately, the MSM will ignore it or downplay it. |
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Tue Jan-25-05 04:46 PM
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48. last night on local news they showed a segment and ended it with |
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YOU GO, GIRL!!! I was shocked. Maybe a glimmer of hope?????
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Tue Jan-25-05 04:36 PM
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5. Boxer says this is a very important position in the time of war |
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where a nominee has a prior record and statements on the war.
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Tue Jan-25-05 04:36 PM
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6. " TRUTH MATTERS " Senator Boxer |
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Tue Jan-25-05 04:37 PM
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14. Boxer looked tired don't you think |
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Tue Jan-25-05 04:42 PM
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31. I think she looks great! |
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Nice new lighter hair color and highlights and neatly done.
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Tue Jan-25-05 04:48 PM
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59. No , she looked serious and committed IMO |
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I think her heart is breaking like mine is breaking at what is becoming of our Country .
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Tue Jan-25-05 04:36 PM
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No mincing of her words. No nuances! Just says it like it IS!!!!!!!
:bounce: for Barbara!
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Tue Jan-25-05 04:37 PM
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Tue Jan-25-05 04:45 PM
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45. That's the important part |
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Prior to this all this evidence was considered conspiracy theory. Now it is part of the Congressional record.
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Tue Jan-25-05 04:37 PM
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11. B. Boxer- the living testimony to the power of TRUTH! |
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Tue Jan-25-05 04:37 PM
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Praising Lugar as chairman.
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Tue Jan-25-05 04:37 PM
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13. Boxer is soooooooo GREAT!!! |
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Tue Jan-25-05 04:38 PM
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Tue Jan-25-05 04:37 PM
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16. Who's up now after Boxer? |
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Tue Jan-25-05 04:38 PM
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22. Sen Lamar Alexander Repub. Tenn--he supports Condi |
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Tue Jan-25-05 04:38 PM
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18. Lamar Alexander....how did this guy get elected? |
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probably by election fraud.
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Tue Jan-25-05 04:39 PM
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24. the comparison is so heartening |
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listen to this man...what a whore.
sen. boxer put it all out there, and this man gets up smirking and in that juvenile student council president tone "I rise in SUPPORT..." :puke:
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Tue Jan-25-05 04:41 PM
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27. it was that red checked shirt when he was running for Pres. that |
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many people liked--prob. carrried over to his run for the Senate
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Tue Jan-25-05 04:43 PM
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38. I just wrote to him.... |
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voicing my disappointment in him. I'm sure that'll straighten him out!
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Tue Jan-25-05 04:46 PM
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50. good to get in touch with them...they do keep track |
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of how their constituents feel, even if they don't vote that way.
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Tue Jan-25-05 04:38 PM
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19. anyone with a heart and pulse knows it is no where near 120,000 |
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trained iraqi soldiers. otherwise, we wouldn't be there in the numbers that we are.
right on....
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Tue Jan-25-05 04:38 PM
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Puckering up his wrinkled up old lips to Condi's butt.
Break time.
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Tue Jan-25-05 04:38 PM
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21. These assholes blow my mind! How can they even do this with straight face |
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Boy, he has that right... a performance!
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Tue Jan-25-05 04:38 PM
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23. "It was an excellent performance" |
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Performance is a good word for it.
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Tue Jan-25-05 04:42 PM
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34. Oh, it was a performance alright! n/t |
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Tue Jan-25-05 04:40 PM
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Next time we implement regime change?????
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Tue Jan-25-05 04:42 PM
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Did he just say that we must learn from Iraq for the next time we engage in regime change? (Alexander)
This is crazy. Where the hell does the authority to do regime change come from?
Anyone?
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Tue Jan-25-05 04:42 PM
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32. How many regime changes does he contemplate? |
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And didn't Bush say 4 years ago that the US should NOT be involved in regime change?
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Tue Jan-25-05 04:42 PM
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35. Lamar apparently doesn't realize they haven't learned anything |
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from Iraq, or he still wouldn't be trying to label the odor emanating from this POS as attar of roses. What a doof!
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Tue Jan-25-05 04:43 PM
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That's when I switched him off.
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Tue Jan-25-05 04:41 PM
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29. Do we know who is after Alexander? |
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Tue Jan-25-05 04:43 PM
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40. I wish they would post a schedule for junkies like us |
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Tue Jan-25-05 04:47 PM
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53. I know Lugar's list before lunch was supposed to take us to 5:00 but he |
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said we could still have 4 more hours after that.
Kerry isn't included in this time so I'm just wondering if they are going to take a dinner break and then have Kerry and I don't know who else after that.
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Tue Jan-25-05 04:41 PM
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30. I live in TN But, Boxer, Not Lamar is my Senator |
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Edited on Tue Jan-25-05 04:45 PM by Wiley50
He lives in a different state of mind, character and ethics The same goes double for our Doctor Senator. Taxation without acknowledgement, much less representation
Edited to add Frist
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Tue Jan-25-05 04:44 PM
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43. he said others have gone farther than Rice in outlining an exit |
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stategy. I do believe he is being critical of Condi and her testimony in the hearings last week--and of the war in Iraq in general.
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Tue Jan-25-05 04:49 PM
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64. rodeodance, i believe you're right. |
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i'm surprised by what he's saying.
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Tue Jan-25-05 04:42 PM
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36. !! He hopes "the next time the prez considers regime change"...!!!! |
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...that Condi will remind him of the huge expense and difficulty...
oh fuck.
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Tue Jan-25-05 04:46 PM
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47. 'we don't need an exit strategy, we need another $80 billion.'...urgg. |
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"We should listen to Kissinger and Schultz"?? NO.
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Tue Jan-25-05 04:47 PM
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54. citing bible verse "city on the hill"--like Fallujah? |
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Tue Jan-25-05 04:43 PM
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37. Those of us who are listening now |
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can vote them out. If they commit fraud again we will have to take to the streets. Listen to them and their LIES. They try to give you dreams but the reality is not Dreams. GET REAL Sen. Alexander :kick:
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Tue Jan-25-05 04:43 PM
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41. "Dr. Kissinger, Dr. Schultz, Dr. Rice" |
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Tue Jan-25-05 04:44 PM
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42. "number of lives we are willing to sacrifice" to spread freedom???? |
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you can send your kid Lamar!! we're not willing to sacrifice ANY.
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Tue Jan-25-05 04:44 PM
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44. Kissinger and Shultz give their opinion on a success strategy |
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what fucking lookingglass am I looking through?
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Tue Jan-25-05 04:45 PM
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46. wants Condi (as SOS) to change course if warrented. He will vote Yes. |
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Tue Jan-25-05 04:47 PM
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52. go forth with good works--quote mark from Bible--dah!! |
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Tue Jan-25-05 04:46 PM
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Tue Jan-25-05 04:48 PM
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61. prophetic blessing to Condi? as she goes forth? |
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Tue Jan-25-05 04:47 PM
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58. Yeah. Old Kissinger did great in Viet Nam |
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Surrendered after the entire U.S. went fucking berserk and DEMANDED that we withdraw the troops.
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Tue Jan-25-05 04:46 PM
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51. So the Bible explains why we invaded Iraq? |
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Lamar, that's called a crusade.
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Tue Jan-25-05 04:47 PM
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55. Oh I thought it was the oil. n/t |
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Tue Jan-25-05 04:47 PM
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56. We are the light of the world. |
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Is that why we tortured those prisoners??? :grr:
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Tue Jan-25-05 04:49 PM
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68. Unless you live in California...then they turn off your power! |
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Tue Jan-25-05 04:47 PM
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57. Well....Lamar's actually questioning invasion and nation building... |
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65. yes, but rather mushy about it!! |
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Tue Jan-25-05 04:48 PM
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60. All the Repubs have to refer to past presidents |
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and past well knowns because they HAVE NO ARGUMENT AGAINST BOXER!!!
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62. Tolerance? Please! They want to get rid of SPONGE BOB! |
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Tue Jan-25-05 04:49 PM
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63. What the fuck in Lamar Alexander talking about. |
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It sure the hell is not about the same stuff Boxer just finished talking about This guy is an idiot if there ever was one.
How in the hell can anyone get up and support condi after Boxer laid the facts out so clearly, not just some of the facts but all of the facts supporting just how dirty that bitch is. Would someone just put a plug in Alexander? Reagan, No Child Left Behind.... What about the lies Condi told?
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69. it is rather mind boggling to hear one side, then another--split |
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Tue Jan-25-05 04:51 PM
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74. LAmar's super powers are greatly diminished without the flannel shirt |
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Yes it was surreal and funny that just after Boxer stated fact after fact after fact and the first thing out of Lamar's mouth was "Thank you Mr.President I rise in SUPPORT of the nominee"
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Tue Jan-25-05 04:49 PM
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66. Durbin's on the plate |
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Reid wanted to make some comments also.
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72. Rice met with Durbin this morning...first time they met, but he's troubled |
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Tue Jan-25-05 04:49 PM
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67. Durbin is up, Reid will speak also. |
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73. Dem. Dubin, Assistant Minority Lead, Illinois--wonder where he is going? |
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70. When is Feinstein up? Jeez, I can't wait... the |
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75. Oh how I wish Feinstein would read the Constitution |
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81. I can. Unfortunately we've got Feinstein in Ca, too! YUK! |
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93. YAAAHHH!! Feinstein ROCCKKKKSSS!!! |
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Tue Jan-25-05 04:50 PM
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71. Dick Durbin says he's troubled by Rice's response to Boxer |
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76. most have used that word "troubled" -including Boxer --it is in vogue! |
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78. asked Rice why she objected to torture amendment which he sponsered |
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--was was for the intellegence agencies--
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80. 100,000 trops in Iraq says Pent. in morning papers |
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79. Durbin busted her for lying...TODAY!!! THIS MORNING!!! |
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those repubs have such great morals and values, don't they?
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84. what 'troubles" him is that it is evidence of the WH misleading |
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Tue Jan-25-05 04:55 PM
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83. Durbin brings up Pentagon statement that 120,000 troops will stay for 2 |
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years. Durbin should bring up Rummy's secret little intelligence group that's been working away from CIA and Congress for last two years.
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89. says WH blames intelligence and Condi was in the house as these |
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decisions were made and condi has to accept responsibility!!
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Tue Jan-25-05 04:56 PM
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85. Durbin is my Senator... |
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hopefully he makes me proud! He usually does, but not always. So far, so good.
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Wasn't too fond with his 1/6 position, but today so far so good...
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94. He's been a GOOD MAN today! |
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107. Yeah, he's covering all the good points! He's clearly troubled by Condi's |
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position on torture, and by this Admin's "misleading the American Public on reasons of going to war."
Sounds to me like he's going to vote "Nay" on the Nomination.
Quite frankly, I think he sounds tougher and more focused today than Boxer. (Who I love, by the way...but today felt she was unfocused.)
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Tue Jan-25-05 04:56 PM
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86. Durbin is doing very well! |
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Quoted Lugar saying that he thought the war would be atleast 5 years, back when it started...
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Tue Jan-25-05 04:57 PM
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88. Senator's troubled, soldiers and citizens dead |
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Maybe if someone dragged in some dead onto the Senate floor, they'd be more than troubled.
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Tue Jan-25-05 04:58 PM
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92. more Senators need to speak out of the dead in Iraq!! |
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Tue Jan-25-05 05:02 PM
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101. yeah, admitting your mistakes is the first step to recovery... |
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course Bush wouldn't know that since he doesn't attend AA meetings.
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Tue Jan-25-05 05:07 PM
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115. Hooray! Maybe he listened to my letter :-) |
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Sent a letter last week about torture being our line in the sand, that the world will notice what the Senate says about those who sanction torture, including both Rice and Gonzales.
Wonder if Obama will change his vote. Probably not.
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91. Durbin is getting me all hot and bothered!!! |
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:loveya: :loveya: :loveya:
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95. a cold swim in order?? te he |
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96. talking of lack of body armor now |
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100. Condi coming before us now--as a "promotion' to SOS-troubling |
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98. It's his boyish goodlooks! n/t |
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Tue Jan-25-05 05:03 PM
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104. oh--ok--well, yes--he will pass |
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Tue Jan-25-05 05:01 PM
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97. but more importantly....are there blowjobs going on in the oval office? |
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Can you believe how small Republicans were over sex between consenting adults and who now show their true colors defending this illegal pre-emptive bombing of citizens, soldiers and buildings just to get out one bad apple, who actually was our bad apple for many years.
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Tue Jan-25-05 05:03 PM
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102. Hopefully, the Dems will have enough sense to get these |
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very Senators out as spokes people tonight on the new chat shows instead of the usual bunch of dorks they parade. They need to hit this for all they are worth.
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Tue Jan-25-05 05:04 PM
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108. gee, do you think Dems are that organized? |
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If we had a true PR machine, Dem Senators and others would be all over the media.
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Tue Jan-25-05 05:05 PM
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110. if the MSM lets them be heard!! that is the problem |
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99. How could Bush get the military vote if their families send them armour? |
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Tue Jan-25-05 05:04 PM
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105. He will be blasted by the Repugs!! |
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Tue Jan-25-05 05:06 PM
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111. Well...that's part of standing up for what you believe in. May not make |
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Tue Jan-25-05 05:04 PM
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106. I don't know about armor, but they sure are trying to bribe them |
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with increasing survivor benefits for families now. How's that for twisted logic? We'll do for ya if you die, buddy.
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Tue Jan-25-05 05:06 PM
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112. all in the cause for nation-building!! |
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Tue Jan-25-05 05:05 PM
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"His fingerprints are all over this administration's torture policy." |
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A quote by Sen. Dick Durbin, concerning Alberto Gonzales.
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Tue Jan-25-05 05:05 PM
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109. Durbin his is my Sen. n/t |
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Edited on Tue Jan-25-05 05:13 PM by Acryliccalico
WAS MY SEN!!! :grr: I didn't like the way he was heading. So Condi went around 'meeting' with the Senators.:wtf:
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Tue Jan-25-05 05:07 PM
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114. says that Condi will need diplomacy!! which was lacking in the run up |
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Tue Jan-25-05 05:08 PM
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116. he asked Rice if would support more the Aids problem and she said yes |
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Tue Jan-25-05 05:10 PM
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120. Durbin is using common sense.... |
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wish the rest of the Dems do the same.....the neocons are too gullible and too stupid to get it.
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Tue Jan-25-05 05:06 PM
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113. American taxpayers and soldiers are paying for this invasion and |
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nation building. I want my money back!
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Tue Jan-25-05 05:09 PM
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118. oh oh--is he leaning now to vote yes??? |
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117. Uh Oh . . .here comes his build up for voting yes |
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Tue Jan-25-05 05:10 PM
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119. wants Condi to support the role of women 'realistic" around the world |
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Tue Jan-25-05 05:11 PM
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123. he ran out of time--so Dubin did not say if yes or no. |
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Tue Jan-25-05 05:10 PM
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121. did he saya yes or no? |
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Tue Jan-25-05 05:10 PM
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122. Please continue in thread 8 |
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