I Am Profoundly Disappointed That Andy Young Endorsed Dr. Rice

[DemocratSinceBirth]

What's wrong with him?

[pinto]

1. what were his statements in endorsement? I wasn't able to hear them. n/t

[DemocratSinceBirth]

2. He Was Part Of Dr. Frist's Entourage...

Everybody in the entourage was African American... It was deliberately staged to make Dr. Rice's opponents look like racists....

The other speakers ever so cleverly implied that the only reason one would vote against Dr. Rice was because of her color... In Andy Young's defense he did not...


What a disturbing spectacle...


I have always went out of my way to vote for women, people of color, etcetera but Dr. Rice lacks the wisdom, judgment and foresight for the position she aspires to....

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[xultar]

18. THIS IS THE SHIT I'M TALKING ABOUT RIGHT HERE....

You are going to drain the black vote from the party with talk like this. You guys don't get it.

It's not about race it is about the struggle.

You're missing the boat and this will drve blacks from the party and you will NEVER win again.

Why do you think the Right has tons of black pundits on the news? They are displaying something but it's not being said. it is subliminal. All WHITES got up and spoke against Rice on the Left and all WHITES got up and spoke for her on the Right.

Y'all are missing the boat, the point, the light, the essence, the meaning....

rotflmao

[KittyWampus]

21. Xultar, Isn't Class Struggle A Truism In Society? It Often Overlaps With

race and cultural identities.

But not always.

[Inland]

3. Wasn't he once ambassador to the UN

And isn't Rice part of the cabal who thought the UN was nothing but an impediment to US power to wage a war, a war that turned out to be an idiotic idea?

[DemocratSinceBirth]

4. He Was Ambassador To The UN Under Jimmy Carter...

He also was one of Dr. King's lieutenants and mayor of Atlanta...

[Cha]

5. I can see, then,how you are profoundly

disappointed. There's just no accounting for some people's taste.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

7. I Respected Andy Young... I Still Do....

But I question his judgement in this instance...


I am not African Amercan so I can not put myself in his shoes and see his desire to see a black woman attain such a high position but like Clarence Thomas what is the benefit if they act against the interest of people of color...

It makes it worse because they are seen as legitimizing these policies....

[checks-n-balances]

11. I think he attended a Bush fund-raising dinner in Atlanta in 2004

I was shocked out of my gourd when I heard it on local Atlanta radio. It may have been in 2003, but at any rate it was during the presidential campaign.

I don't know where he's coming from, but evidently he's not paying attention to what the rethugs are doing to this country. Surely he's not unscrupulous enough to be bought by them - unless he's having memory/judgment problems due to aging.

Edited to correct grammar

[FrenchieCat]

6. I am also, profoundly disappointed.....

in Andrew Young. He really is an icon in the civil rights battle of the '60s and long after that. Maybe he's been watching too much CNN...he is after all, in Atlanta.

[xultar]

16. Frenchie, if you don't understand then I'm shocked. I know exactly

why he did it. That is why I know the black vote will turn out for Hillary Clinton.

That is why the Right is villifying her for us. They know if Hillary runs they will need to get a Black person on the ticket to beat her.

Randi was right yesterday. The right is attacking her because they are afraid that we will run her. So they are putting the agressive progressives in the mix and turning them loose on us so that we don't press for her to run.

The same reasons the agressive progressives give for not wanting to run HRC is the same reason the Rightwing are using.

Y'all want the black vote in 08 do a Clinton/Obama ticket.

The right couldn't beat that. They'd have to run Powell for sure to even have a chance.

But, some of us here have drunk the reich wing kool-aid and we are going to shoot ourselves in the foot.

We can't run Boxer cuz they will say that Boxer was a racist in opposing Rice and that will drain the black vote for sure.

Y'all watch. I'm gonna sit back and laugh my ass off from my house in Vancouver BC. Because The liberals are gonna screw themselves on this one for sure. I see it happening already. rotflmao

[hector459]

20. I am not black, but I understand your message and agree. Wake up

Dems. You are about to lose our most loyal base. It's coming.

[GRLMGC]

24. It's started

We lost some to Bush the last time around. Yes we did get the vast majority but any tiny loss is too much. It builds up over time.

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[DemocratSinceBirth]

12. HeHehe

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[autorank]

10. Why does Andy Young hate America?

[DemocratSinceBirth]

13. I'm Not Questioning His Patriotism Just His Judgment

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[autorank]

23. Me either, I'm just using that stupid quote semi-ironically.

However, Rice is a no-brainer. She lied, many died, many more are injured, and we are bankrupt. If you don't oppose people like her, my God, who will you oppose.

I see a looming battle between the "fraternity" (the tyrants and the so-called opposition) and the people who are just so sick and tired of all the nonsense, they could care less about how the "fraternity" behaves and it's stupid code of ethics.

[CWebster]

14. If it is still based on race

It is still racism.

Why should she, like Clarence Thomas, get an automatic green light, when all she represents is servitude to the man.

[xultar]

15. It is a Black thing, and I'm sure it has a lot to do with Obama being

incog-negro @ the senate session yesterday.

That is one thing alot of white liberals don't understand about black folk. This is also why the black vote will dwindle where the democratic party is concerned.

I get the impression that white liberals especially the agressive progressives think that in some respects they can steam roll right over everything because they all know better about everything and choose to fight against rather than open dialog.

That is why I've been saying we need to clamp down on this agressive hutful incivility. From my perspective I don't see any differnece in the ferver on the extreme left that I see on the extreme right. I have an inclination that I'm not the only black person that feels that way.

So...y'all keep it up. Watch what happens. Y'all will drive the black vote right from the party right in to the hands of the right.

Seek to understand rather than ignore black folk. That will help you to retain the black vote.

[freestyle]

17. Misplaced racial solidarity causes serious vision problems.

We went through this with Clarence Thomas and the O.J. Simpson trial. Sometimes we Black folks get so caught up in seeing Black faces in high places that we overlook blatant wrongdoing. Then there is also the old taboo about not airing our dirty laundry in public. It is way past time to get over that and call out and oppose liars, theives, and murderers, no matter their racial identity. The lies of Condoleezza Rice, along with plenty of other members of the bush regime, have resulted in many thousands of deaths. That is worthy of prison, not promotion.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

22. Kick

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[tnlefty]

19. I watched Maynard Jackson's memorial service 3 times and

that was partly so that I could see Mr. Young's remarks again. I've liked him since I was a kid.

I remember his stating something like 'I've marched, I've been beaten up and I've gone to jail' referencing the time that he worked with Dr. King.

Seems as though the content of Dr. Rice's character doesn't matter and his appearance with FrankenFrist made me want to hurl.

[KissMeKate]

25. and why did Feingold fold?

he had serious objections, he should have stuck to his guns.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

26. I Am The Author Of This Thread So My Feelings About Dr. Rice Are Clear...

If Russ Feingold who was willing to be only one out of one hundred senators to vote against the Patriot Act can vote for Rice then the fact he did could tell you that maybe we overplaying the importance of this vote...


For instance voting for Rice isn't in the same category as voting for a flag burning or anti-gay marriage amendment...


We all have a line in the sand... For me it's not a cabinet appointee we had zero chance of stopping...

We could have filibustered to Easter and Bush wouldn't have forsaken his girlfriend...

[KissMeKate]

27. I can respect that.

but personally, Im still dissappointed in his vote.