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CreekDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-05 11:00 PM
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Bush finds premature death among blacks politically useful
Bush doesn't seem very upset that black folks die earlier on average than other groups. In fact, to hear it, seems like he finds it a political advantage. And I thought it was bad news...but no, Bush sees a silver lining:


From the Associated Press:

"Bush tried to get ministers and other leaders of the black community behind his agenda in an earlier private meeting that lasted more than an hour. Attendees said Bush told them his plan to add private accounts to Social Security would benefit blacks since they tend to die younger than whites and end up paying in more than they take out. Private accounts would be owned by workers and could be inherited by loved ones after death."

http://www.kansascity.com/mld/kansascity/news/10732452.htm?1c
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BayCityProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-05 11:04 PM
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1. oh...my...god
did he really say this in a room full of African Americans?
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CreekDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-05 11:07 PM
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2. According to the Associated Press he did
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DulceDecorum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-05 11:15 PM
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7. Press Briefing by Scott McClellan: January 25, 2005
Q Does the White House agree with those who say that changing Social Security could benefit African Americans especially? And if so, does the President hope to enlist these African American leaders today in his public campaign?

MR. McCLELLAN: Well, we are talking about adding a new benefit to Social Security under the President's approach. It's called personal retirement accounts. And under the personal retirement accounts, that will give people the option, if they so choose, to have some ownership in their own -- over their own retirement savings in the Social Security system. And that will enable them to be able to pass on those savings to their heirs if they happen to pass away early. And so that will enable -- I mean, you talk about the African American community, I mean, that's one segment where African American males have a -- have had a shorter life span than other sectors of America. And this will enable them to build a nest egg of their own and be able to pass that nest egg on to their survivors. And so I think you should look at it from that perspective, as well.

Q Does he hope to enlist these leaders today in his public campaign to support the Social Security --

MR. McCLELLAN: Well, let's let the meeting take place. But I expect he's going to talk about his second term priorities, and Social Security is right there at the top of his second term priorities. So I expect he'll continue to talk about the importance of making sure that we take steps to strengthen it for future generations -- our children and grandchildren -- so that it will be there for them. Most of our children and grandchildren right now do not expect Social Security to be around for them when they retire, under the current system, because it's unsustainable. And that's why we need to act now to permanently fix the system.

Q Scott, on the Social Security issue and the black leaders, the African American community en masse has a tendency to use more of the insurance part of Social Security versus the retirement part. Will that be addressed, as well? Is there any kind of crafting of a proposal to address that, specifically, because of the life span --

MR. McCLELLAN: I'm sorry, to address the retirement versus --

Q No, the insurance portion -- the insurance portion is drawn out more from the African American community as a whole, versus the retirement portion, especially as African American males' life span does not reach 65, 67, on average. Is that something that they're trying to work out now, as well?

MR. McCLELLAN: Well, I think it's been very clear what the President is doing to work with members of Congress to address Social Security. He's laid out the principles that should guide us as we move forward. He's made very clear what those principles are: no changes for those at or near retirement, the option of personal retirement accounts for younger workers --

Q But are you going to address specifically the black community on Social Security, and there is a racial aspect to it. Wouldn't you think that you would --

MR. McCLELLAN: All Americans are affected by Social Security, so it's not a -- the President doesn't specifically tailor his agenda to specific segments of society.

Q But a disproportionate -- the President has even acknowledged that --

MR. McCLELLAN: This is good for all -- it's good for Americans.

Q -- a disproportionate numbers of black males have a tendency not to reach the life span over time for Social Security, so they don't see it. But the African American community as a whole pulls out of the insurance part of that. And that's what I'm asking you. Will that be addressed? Are you looking at that? Are you looking to get information from these leaders about that aspect?

MR. McCLELLAN: I'm sorry, when you're talking about the insurance part, I'm not sure exactly what you're talking about.

Q Sickness and --

MR. McCLELLAN: Talking disability?

Q Yes.

MR. McCLELLAN: Okay, I mean, if you're talking disability, the President has made it pretty clear in the past that people with disabilities shouldn't see any change in their benefit structure. Our focus has been on the retirement savings portion of this and strengthening it for younger workers.

Q But also, these leaders --

MR. McCLELLAN: And the President talked about that in a recent interview with The Washington Post, as well.

Q Okay, and lastly, these leaders are people who supported the President. And I understand that many of these leaders supported him on the issue of marriage, the definition of marriage. And there's a struggle now between Social Security and the definition of marriage. Will the President come out again now defining marriage again, so that these ministers can go in their pulpits and talk to the thousands -- hundreds of thousands of members of the congregation to support them -- because the President, indeed, got 11 percent of the black vote in this last election because many of these ministers went into their congregations saying, vote the Bible.

MR. McCLELLAN: Well, a couple of things. First of all, the leaders who will be there today, they're religious leaders, they're business leaders, they're community leaders from across the United States. They represent a diversity of views from within the African American community. Secondly, in terms of protecting the sanctity of marriage, the President is very firm in his belief that marriage is a sacred institution between a man and a woman, and he is concerned about steps that have been taken by activist judges. That's why the President believes it's necessary for us to move forward on a constitutional amendment to protect the sanctity of marriage. He's going to continue speaking out about the importance of protecting the sanctity of marriage and moving forward on a constitutional amendment. And he continues to urge Congress to act on that.
http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2005/01/20050125-2.html

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DulceDecorum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-05 11:07 PM
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3. He got that from his Poppy.
In 1969 Bush was involved in hearings into the 'dangers of too many black babies' and when he became ambassador to the UN in 1972 he arranged for the Association of Voluntary Surgical Contraception (formerly the Sterilisation League) to extend its policy of sterilising young children with 'low' IQ to non-white countries. This was further extended when Bush became president in 1988.
http://www.truthcampaign.ukf.net/articles/liftingtheveil/manipulation6.html
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-05 11:09 PM
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4. This is the same jackass...
who in a room full of Brazilians who represent every race and hue on earth, said that he didn't know there were black people in Brazil.
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CreekDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-05 11:10 PM
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5. Holy Cow! (about the Brazilians)
That's worse than Quayle's comment about wishing he knew Latin so he could talk to the people of Latin America.
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-05 11:16 PM
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8. I forgot about that...

Even Quayle has to be listening to Bush and thinking to himself: "What a dumbass!"
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-05 11:12 PM
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6. Bush is an asshole
in the first order. If he fixed our lousy health system, the statistic would change. Of course, that will never happen.

Ratbastard, he is!
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