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heidiho Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-05 10:53 AM
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How Can We Impeach This Clown???
Edited on Wed Jan-26-05 10:54 AM by heidiho
Remember Filegate, Whitewater, Monicagate, Impeachment, Travelgate???"

But we are not allowed to ask a question or make a comment about the possibility of the Bush Cabal lying about this war, lying about everything that have ever done.

Boxer getting crucified by the MSM today because she DARED to question the great and mighty Bush Cabal???

They were allowed by call Clinton a liar over and over and over again. But if a Senator even hints at the LIE word, the country goes fricking nuts.

I don't want to live in this country anymore. I am actually crying on my keyboard after watching that monkey speak at this press conrerence.

It is so much like Germany in the late 30's it scares the shit out of me.
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chelsea0011 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-05 10:55 AM
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1. Not likely, with a Republican Congress
But there is a move under way to at least attempt impeachment.
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katinmn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-05 10:58 AM
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2. www.impeachbush.org
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GetTheRightVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-05 11:06 AM
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6. I have signed the petition as all good Americans should
:kick:
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cdb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-05 10:59 AM
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Impeach, hell yeah
It will never happen. There would need to be something so monstrous, so horrendous that even the republitards in congress couldn't overlook it.

lets see, how about a war based on lies and greed? No...
...howsabout war crimes and torture.... nah...

I can't imagine what it would take to get the red staters up in arms enough to demand impeachment....oh, wait! I know! Oral sex!!
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-05 11:08 AM
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9. That wouldn't even get the Evil Monkey King impeached.
The bush**bots would explain it away somehow. Like Chimp needed to relieve some stress :eyes: or some such other BS excuse. :argh:
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tibbiit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-05 10:59 AM
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3. Is there not some way the People
Can bypass the house of reps? A class-action impeachment?
tib
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GetTheRightVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-05 11:07 AM
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7. We, the grass roots, must keep pushing the issue
especially the war and attack on SSN, etc.

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Jeff in Cincinnati Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-05 11:00 AM
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4. Requirements
A majority of the House Judiciary Committee to recommend articles of impeachment.

A majority in the House to approve the articles.

A majority in the Senate to remove the President.

Not going to get any of the three. There are no depths of moral depravity to which this President can plunge sufficient to cause Republicans (particularly House Republicans) to ever hold him accountable.

On the bright side -- the public may be so repulsed by their moral cowardice that Democratic candidates will have an early edge in the 2006 and 2008 congressional elections.
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cdb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-05 11:07 AM
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8. The public???
Edited on Wed Jan-26-05 11:08 AM by cdb
On the bright side -- the public may be so repulsed by their moral cowardice that Democratic candidates will have an early edge in the 2006 and 2008 congressional elections.

No way!! the public agrees with their "morals". They elected these cretinous hypocrits based on the morals, remember??
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Jeff in Cincinnati Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-05 11:42 AM
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16. Not necessarily
They returned Bush based on the their being subjected to decades of propaganda by the right-wing (something the left is beginning to crack via the internet and outlets like Air America) and the belief that betters times, especially in Iraq, were just around the corner.

If the Democrats are resolute in holding Bush's feet to the fire after it becomes clear on February 1 that the good times are going to be a-rolling anytime soon in Iraq, and if they pound him relentlessly on his Social Security scam, we can reverse twenty years of conservative ascendency.
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Rebecca_Remarks Donating Member (30 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-05 11:10 AM
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10. Actually...
... you need a two-thirds majority in the Senate to remove an official from office.

Rebecca
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Jeff in Cincinnati Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-05 11:39 AM
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15. I stand corrected
and it lengthens the odds even further...
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-05 12:06 PM
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22. Actually, 2/3 vote of the Senate is required to remove the President
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MichaelHarris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-05 11:04 AM
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5. It will be hard but
not impossible. They learned the lessons of "shielding" from Nixon and Bush Sr. Layers and layers of people willing to take the fall to protect their president. Nixon's layering didn't work because back then we had journalists, which we don't have right now. Also Nixon's "boys" were not all that dedicated to him so some rolled over.

The real test of this "layer" system came with George the elder, his staff was willing to cover up anything and take a fall for it, look at how many that were convicted on his watch and then later pardoned by Bush himself. This family has perfected the "take a fall and pardon later" approach to raping America.

The new Bush has taken it a step further, he just doesn't admit to any wrong doing and since there are no actual journalists working today a "Nixon-type" investigation won't happen.

What it will take is an outraged public, and a real journalist to step forward and say,

"Hey, paying journalists to promote a political agenda during a campaign year has to be illegal right? If it isn't then why isn't it? What did Bush know? What did he order? To hell with his not knowing, it was done on his watch, by his staff. The buck stops with him."

When you get that journalist then you will see action.
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cdb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-05 11:12 AM
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11. that journalist
doesn't exist.
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MichaelHarris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-05 11:16 AM
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13. but we do
and we can make a differnece.
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Jeff in Cincinnati Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-05 11:48 AM
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20. Sorry to burst your bubble...
But there was a Democratic majority in the House and Senate when Nixon faced impeachment, and there were several Republicans whom Nixon despised and they despised him right back. When the time came, those Republicans were more than happy settle two decades worth of old scores.

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oscar111 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-05 11:13 AM
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12. recall? as in recall a governor, or prez? eom
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SoCalifer Donating Member (652 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-05 11:23 AM
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14. Impeach Bush
If there were truly justice. Bush could easily be held liable for criminal violations:

- Lying to Congress (felony)
- Violating The U.S. Constitution (war powers)
- Waging War Of Aggression
- Violations of the Geneva Conventions

If anyone of these isn't grounds for Impeachment, then I don't know what is. Because he IS guilty of each and everyone of these.


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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-05 11:43 AM
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17. Remember the old days when we had a Constitution, checks, balances?
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Jackie97 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-05 11:44 AM
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18. Impeaching Bush would be nearly impossible.
You would have to get a majority Republican congress to agree to it.

Only the combination of two things can make that happen.

1) Some really hard evidence against Bush. I don't mean coinsidental connections. I mean some hard, hard evidence.

2) It would have to be made so much public that American outcry insists on his impeachment. You'd have to convince the American people that it's worth it to impeach the president at a time of instability.

I'm not saying it can't be done, but it would be awful hard to do.
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Rebecca_Remarks Donating Member (30 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-05 05:31 PM
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23. Even then...
... you couldn't do it. You could have a video beating children to death by swinging cute puppies at thier heads and you won't get 67 votes in the Senate. The Republicans will stand by thier man no matter what.

Rebecca
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-05 11:45 AM
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19. create an alternative universe
in which the fascists are not in power

and the Murkan public is not so self-destructively stupid
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seemunkee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-05 11:57 AM
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21. What irrefutably impeachable acts has he performed
In listening to Democracy Now the last two days I heard a couple of things.
1. Is the violation of a ratified treaty an impeachable offense? Is a ratified treaty the same as US law?
2. Byrd made a statement yesterday calling the doctrine of pre-emptive attacks unconstitutional. Is this true? can someone sight the specific clause?
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-05 08:43 PM
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24. Lying to congress (SOTU, IWR letter) is impeachable.
Of course the matter is moot, but just to answer your question. IOKIYAR
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