Seymour Hersh: "We've Been Taken Over by a Cult"

[Roland99]

http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=05/01/26/1450204

As the Senate Judiciary Committee prepares to vote today on the nomination of Alberto Gonzales for Attorney General, we hear a speech by Pulitzer-prize winning investigative reporter Seymour Hersh on torture from Guantanamo to Abu Ghraib to Vietnam.
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Four British citizens have been released without charge from Guantanamo Bay after nearly 3 years in custody. They are suing the US government for tens of millions of dollars in damages.
Meanwhile, on Capitol Hill, the Senate Judiciary Committee is scheduled to vote on the nomination of Alberto Gonzales to be Attorney General. As White House counsel, Gonzales helped lay the legal groundwork that led to the torture of detainees at Guantanamo and Abu Ghraib.

We turn now to Pulitzer prize-winning investigative journalist Seymour Hersh. Hersh first exposed the Abu Ghraib torture scandal in the New Yorker magazine in April 2004 and is author of "Chain of Command: The Road From 9/11 to Abu Ghraib." He spoke last month at the Steven Wise Free Synagogue in New York.

[Wetzelbill]

1. ya think?

[oscar111]

2. pls explain your title: what cult do you mean?

bush is christ cult?

pls clarify.

not disagreeing, just puzzled by unclarity

[Roland99]

5. Neocon ideology

And the media is giving in to it and failing to hold this administration accountable.

[liberal43110]

3. Exactly

[oscar111]

4. ps no time to read links.. i want each post to explain its title right

here at DU.

sincerely, your English teacher, oscar LOL.
{getting snarky wit you }

[Demit]

6. That's the title of the piece at the Democracy Now site. FYI--

The piece doesn't explain it either. Just looks like a teaser promo for Amy Goodman's Show.

[Skidmore]

10. Just saw a portion of that lecture on Democracy Now!

It is well worth seeing.

[liberalitch]

7. leave it to us social studies teachers to say.....

Y'all can write what you like in your title.... but be sure to explain/support it in your post

[Roland99]

8. It's in the 1st paragraph

"we hear a speech by Pulitzer-prize winning investigative reporter Seymour Hersh on torture from Guantanamo to Abu Ghraib to Vietnam. "

[AmandaRuth]

9. the whole damn repuke party is a cult

anybody and anything goes, their allegiance is to the ideology, not to the country or the constitution.

[Cell Whitman]

11. I have studied the Moon cult

I have been saying this for a couple years. Sy may be talking about the neocons but the theo part of the theofascist state we are building is most definitely a cult. Whether intentional or not the tactics of the right the last 25 years use mind control techniques.(this just happens to coincide with when they got in bed with Moon)

I do not say this lightly, I am dead serious, this country has a massive national security problem.

http://www.csj.org/infoserv_cult101/checklis.htm

http://www.freeminds.org/psych/lifton.htm

http://www.spiritwatch.org/mincon10.htm

[loudsue]

16. You're absolutely correct, Whitman: the Rev. Moon thing is under the

radar for most folks, but far more insidious than most people realize.

The neocons and Moon are, indeed, bedfellows, turning up the mind control games.

:kick::kick::kick:

[Roland99]

12. Here's a good summary of the speech

the amazing thing is we are been taken over basically by a cult, eight or nine neo-conservatives have somehow grabbed the government. Just how and why and how they did it so efficiently, will have to wait for much later historians and better documentation than we have now, but they managed to overcome the bureaucracy and the Congress, and the press, with the greatest of ease. It does say something about how fragile our Democracy is. You do have to wonder what a Democracy is when it comes down to a few men in the Pentagon and a few men in the White House having their way. What they have done is neutralize the C.I.A. because there were people there inside -- the real goal of what Goss has done was not attack the operational people, but the intelligence people. There were people -- serious senior analysts who disagree with the White House, with Cheney, basically, that's what I mean by White House, and Rumsfeld on a lot of issues, as somebody said, the goal in the last month has been to separate the apostates from the true believers. That's what's happening. The real target has been “diminish the agency.” I'm writing about all of this soon, so I don't want to overdo it, but there's been a tremendous sea change in the government. A concentration of power.

[Catshrink]

13. He scared the crap out of me on The Daily Show last night

He said the US would attack several strategic targets in Iran as early as this summer. He said the neocons have 4 years to democratize the middle east -- Syria, Iran, Libya. Saudia Arabia and Jordan are not included in this list. The BFEE is loyal to it's financiers.

edited to preserve subject-verb agreement

[MoonRiver]

14. Thank God we still have people who care about subject-verb agreement!

And I am being totally sincere in that statement. :yourock:

[E_Smith]

15. Economic downturn?

Did you catch what he said at the end regarding the economy? He even said at the end "if you haven't sold your stocks and bought property in Italy you should do so."

Thats pretty scary. Do you take this warning seriously regarding the economy?

[loudsue]

17. I know that Mr. Hersch has very deep connections at the highest levels.

I also know that he doesn't say things without checking them out from several sources unknown to one another.

So...yeah, I take this warning VERY seriously. Besides, if you spend a week or two reading all the posts on the STOCK MARKET WATCH threads in LBN every day, you will come to the same conclusion about the economy that Mr. Hersch has come to .... and without the need for any deep cover connections.

He didn't win a Pulitzer without knowing what he was doing. He's an outstanding investigative journalist. That's why the neocons/media are going after him: if they can't kill the message, they try to kill the messenger.

:kick::kick::kick:

[Wind Dancer]

18. It was upsetting to hear him say that.

I do take everything Sy Hersh says seriously.

[bloom]

19. THE COMING WARS by SEYMOUR M. HERSH

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=103x101036

http://www.newyorker.com/fact/content/?050124fa_fact

[Roland99]

20. Thanks...added that article to my site

http://www.conjur.com/politics

[bloom]

21. .

[Roland99]

22. Cat got your tongue?

:)