ABBers - Will you vote the Dem nominee if it's LaRouche ?

[Hoppin_Mad]

His campaign got more federal matching funds than DK. DU reports of TV ads and strong showings at rallies show a man on the move. He's been running as a Dem for much longer than one of the other candidates.

Yeah he was convicted of some fraud, but a lot of pols make little mistakes in these financial matters.

People say he's a nut - he's a Neo Nazi.

People say things about all the candidates. Kerry's called a devil worshiping Bonesman. One of the other candidates has been 'tried' and 'convicted' by some wacky independent 'war tribunal'

Many DU'ers advise us not to pay attention to what is 'written' about a candidate, or on what or what not they were or weren't doing 5 or 10 years ago - but on what they are saying NOW.

LaRouche sounds vehemently anti neocon, anti war, anti imperialism, and seems to speak up for the average American. His message sounds strong.

So . . . IF by some freak circumstance - his candidacy catches fire and he becomes the Democratic Nominee ( for the sake of argument suspend disbelief ) . . .

WILL the ABBers here on DU pledge, HERE and NOW, to support and vote for Democratic Candidate Lyndon LaRouche ?

If not - why are you asking others to pledge to vote for a candidate or candidates they find equally unnacceptable ?

If not - why are you asking others to declare who they will vote for while their candidate is still running ? ( I did this myself and now regret it )

Does 'ABB' and 'Democratic Nominee' INCLUDE LaRouche ?

He IS a Democrat running a legitimate campaign ( matching federal funds proves that ) for President in 2004.

-edit spelling-

[Norquist Nemesis]

1. I'm ABB but LaRouche?

Nah...not going to happen. I just don't see any way he would get the nomination at the Democratic convention.

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

2. LOL

NO IF LA ROUCHE DOESN'T GET THE NOMINATION THEN MY VOTE IS NOT TRANSFERABLE!!!!


(just want some of the more virulent posters to see how they sound)

[Shanty Oilish]

3. I draw the line well before LaRouche

Seriously, there are people even worse than Bush. They just don't have a chance of winning an election...oh, wait---neither did he!

[IndianaGreen]

5. But ABB is an absolute!

ABB is always true no matter if the Democrats nominate Zell Miller as a compromise candidate during a deadlocked convention.

ABB is absolute!

:wow:

[JVS]

10. Yeah, what part of "any" don't these people understand?

[Maddy McCall]

4. LaRouche is not a Democrat

So no, I won't vote for a misogynistic, racist asshole like LaRouche.

[IndianaGreen]

7. He is running as a Democrat

Yes, he is a racist, and he is insane.

The purpose of this thread is to challenge the idiocy of ABB. The fact is that LaRouche is going to be on the ballot of the Democratic primary in some states, that makes this lunatic a Democrat (even though you and I would agree that he is more of a Nazi).

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

12. *big fat cough*

I think it was pertty clear from the get go that ABB meant any of the actual legitimate 9 candidates that were running. Sometimes people crack me up with their hair splitting.

Frankly, Dean sat on TV and said his votes were "non-transferrable" ..he said it more than once....


No one is forcing anyone to take a loyalty oath and one can even ignore whole threads now..so anyone complaining is either secretly happy to anser this question or is a masochist.

[Hoppin_Mad]

9. He's a registered Dem who recieved Federal matching funds !

How can you say "he's not a democrat" !

[Maddy McCall]

15. Easily. He is not a Democrat.

There. Ya happy?

:hi:

[Cheswick2.0]

24. he has been a democrat way longer than Clark

hi back

[Lurking Dem]

44. So has Zell Miller.

[Cheswick2.0]

23. He is a democrat

He is a member of the party.

[bowens43]

28. He has been a Dem longer

then Clark. What's the difference?

[JVS]

34. You know, if one of us were to say that about Clark, we would be deleted..

It saddens me that you would speak that way about a democratic candidate.

[Maddy McCall]

35. Go to Ask the Administrators to figure out just how Democratic

the admins here consider him. You should educate yourself on this man. It is an insult to all Jewish people here at this site that you would propone such a despicable neo-Nazi as LaRouche.

And let me add that this is a progressive website. Tell me please how you consider LaRouche to be the least big progressive.

Everyone recognizes this thread for what it is. It is foolish.

[JVS]

36. The Rules are clear. LaRouche is a Democrat

Administrators of this site don't get to make the call of whether he is a Democrat and neither do you.

[youngred]

6. if LaRouche wins

I will not vote for him

ok now

[IndianaGreen]

8. We complaint about LaRouche, what about Zell Miller?

LaRouche won't be at the Democratic Convention in Boston, but Zell is going to be there as a superdelegate. Why doesn't someone challenge his credentials? This jerk is supporting Bush for election!

Heck, Lieberman would be better than Bush!

[youngred]

11. You get no arguments from me on that

Miller should not be considered a dem in any way shape or form

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

13. Is Zell Miller running?

[IndianaGreen]

14. He is a superdelegate at the Convention in Boston

and the bastard gets to cast a vote for the nomination, despite the fact he has already endorsed Bush.

His credentials should be taken away before this fool goes on TV and goes off on one of his pro-Bush tirades.

[Walt Starr]

50. Thanks, you've shown that everybody has an ABB line they are

unwilling to cross.

I just draw my line higher than most .

[youngred]

54. Hardly

La Rouche's odds of winning are extremely small, this is a hypotetical, not reality

Your NBD crusade is still bullshit

[Old and In the Way]

16. OK, you got me.

I'm now ABB,L,& Z

[JVS]

37. What about David Duke?

[NoPasaran]

42. I thought Duke ran as a Republican last time

Lobsterman all the way!

[JVS]

48. Hey, when you support anybody but Bush there are a lot of Republicans...

in that mix too.

Josef Stalin 2004! A candidate who has shown his commitment to change. ;-)

[Maddy McCall]

17. When this song and dance gets old and a new jab is needed:

Here is a list of other nonviable candidates you can propone.

http://www.politics1.com/dems04.htm

:eyes:

[Cheswick2.0]

25. could you take pity on dial ups

please do something about shrinking your graphic. It is pretty and all, but it is hell on people with dial ups. Please do not tell us to turn off graphics. We do like to see the avatars and an occasional cartoon. But those huge Clark graphics are slowing everything down.

Thank you

[Maddy McCall]

27. Thanks. I'm glad you think it's pretty

and if your dial up is very slow, you can go to options and turn off signatures. (Do people put "cartoons" in signatures? hmm...anyway...) I am on dial up also, and it (or other graphics of DU's allowed size) poses no problem for me.

My image is 200X294,well within DU's allowed size, so there's no need to shrink it. Sorry if it doesn't propone the candidate you support.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=120&topic_id=11350

[Shanty Oilish]

18. Bush will go away

Either in 2005 or in 2009 or when God deigns to harvest his sorry ass.
I couldn't say the same about LaRouche. Calling yourself a Democrat is not enough in my book. If I were given the choice of voting for the one to vote against the other, I'd just opt out of the entire farce.

[sleipnir]

19. After recent events, I'd vote for LaRouche before Lieberman

At least LaRouche has the balls to go after Bush/Cheney and the neo-cons. All Lieberman does is rubber-stamp *'s legislation. I'd rather have today's more toned down LaRouche than todays Repug Lieberman.

[IndianaGreen]

20. You better do some research on LaRouche first

He is no different from the late George Lincoln Rockwell.

[sleipnir]

22. I have researched LaRouche, I don't like him really, but...

I like him more than the recent Lieberman...

Yes, LaRouche is a crazy, insane man, but he's willing to agressively go after Bush Co, which is something that Lieberman is oblivious to, that's why he loses my vote.

I do agree with LaRouche on about 10% of his opinions from the War and Education.

[Hoppin_Mad]

26. Just so you know - I DETEST LaRouche - nt-

[Maddy McCall]

29. OMG the truth always has a way of coming out.

Scary. :scared:

[annagull]

21. Hahha, oh boy! You are kidding, right?

80yr old anti semite felon, yeah--THAT'S gonna happen!! :silly:

[retread]

30. It's a little known fact that LaRouche is French for 'straw man'!!

*

[redqueen]

46. LOL n/t

[Spirochete]

31. Are there elections

in the Twilight Zone?

[IndianaGreen]

32. The worry I have is that this moron may get his name on the Indiana ballot

we are having enough trouble getting the petitions signed for legitimate Democratic candidates, we don't need this neo-Nazi to muddle things any further.

[Loonman]

33. I'd need a lobotomy first

He's a neo-Nazi clown.

[spooky3]

38. ABBEL

Anyone But Bush Except LaRouche

[Walt Starr]

58. AHHHHH, that used to mean

Anybody But Bush Except Lieberman.

[Pale Blue Dot]

39. I don't think it's an issue we'll have to face.

Thank God.

[NoPasaran]

40. Yeah, he's a racist lunatic

But I don't think we'd be any worse off with him running the country than the current racist lunatic.
Fortunately he doesn't have a sonwball's chance in hell.

[tryanhas]

41. I won't vote

[David__77]

43. I would vote to get Bush out of office.

Bush is more destructive than LaRouche would be--at least if LaRouche followed his campaign platform. LaRouche would pull back from the imperial adventures.

[mdguss]

45. I'd Call on Joe Lieberman:

To run as an independent and I would vote for him. No worries, LaRouche has no chance of getting the nomination.

[redqueen]

47. Yes

I'd vote for him over bush.

I'd vote for a yellow dog if it ran as a dem! ;)

[Cuban_Liberal]

49. Not even with a gun held to my head. n/t

[adadem]

51. Never n/t

[Lydia Leftcoast]

52. LaRouche is as likely to get the nomination

as Charles Manson.

You're playing college freshman logic class games.

[PatGund]

53. Ick

If voting for Lieberman would require me to hold my nose, voting for LaRouche would require me in level II HazMat gear to cast my vote.

Mind you, I think Vermin Supreme would make a better choice than this supreme piece of vermin. Because I'd vote for a used tampon before I'd vote for the Shrub

[mot78]

55. Hell no!!

ABB only covers the 9 candidates who are running/ran. LaRouche is NOT a Democrat by DNC terms. If LaRouche ever gets the nomination, I would seriously consider voting for *, because he's not going to nuke London to stop an invisible drug trade, or initiate Holocaust II. However, even if LaRouche came to the convention with a majority of delegates, the super-delegates and the DNC would use a brokered convention to keep him from accepting the nomination.

[WhoCountsTheVotes]

56. Of course! ABB

If you expect us to vote for Kerry and Lieberman, why not Larouche? Besides, even if monkeys flew out of our collectives asses and Larouche got nominated and won the presidency, there's no way he would be allowed to do much damage, other then all the monkeys.

[Uzybone]

57. ABB is the current Dem field

it has been that way since the campaign started. Anyone saying other wise is either foolish or being mischievous.

[Logansquare]

59. Uh, I'll be crossing the border into Canada by moonlight

if that election ever happens