El Supremo
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Wed Jan-26-05 01:23 PM
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Poll question: Which is the worse nominee, Gonzales or Rice? |
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I made no alternative choices on purpose.
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Wed Jan-26-05 01:24 PM
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1. Gonzales...Rice was merely complicit. Gonzales was integral... |
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Wed Jan-26-05 01:25 PM
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2. Gonzales because he did the bidding of his master and |
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performed legal gymnastics to make torture "legal."
If he can do that, who knows what he is capable of?
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Wed Jan-26-05 01:25 PM
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3. gawd, I couldn't choose.... |
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They're equally appalling.
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Wed Jan-26-05 01:25 PM
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4. Hmmmmm... Maybe on purpose, but I think they are of equal danger. |
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Wed Jan-26-05 01:26 PM
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5. Both are really really really really really really really really bad |
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Edited on Wed Jan-26-05 01:29 PM by Walt Starr
but Gonzales is worse.
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Wed Jan-26-05 01:26 PM
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6. Like asking which is worse |
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burning to death in a fire or being boiled to death in oil.
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El Supremo
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Wed Jan-26-05 01:31 PM
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11. But in a fire you may pass out from the smoke first. |
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Anyway, I like the responses so far. I'm just wondering which Senators will split their votes and why?
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Wed Jan-26-05 02:02 PM
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15. Both are sycophants who allwed themselves to be used |
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by Bush to destroy human lives. But Rice's behavior precipitated many many more deaths than Gonzo's.
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Wed Jan-26-05 01:27 PM
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7. so far I seem the lone vote for Rice |
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She has much more potential for damage in her position than Gonzales will have.
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Wed Jan-26-05 01:30 PM
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9. Gonzales will have more power to strip you of rights |
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because you post here, though.
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Wed Jan-26-05 01:31 PM
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but it was hard to chose when both are evil.
:shrug:
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Wed Jan-26-05 01:57 PM
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14. I too think it is Rice. |
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Have you ever thought how well loved she is by Bush and then realized it was all her doing, this whole fucking war. It was her and Rumsfield, and Wolfowitz, and Cheney, and they just strung Bush along because he is so stupid he didn't even know how to question Rice's judgement. Rice has the power to really fuck up every diplomatic relation we have. And when diplomacy fails war is the next option. Rice is definately more dangerous.
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Wed Jan-26-05 01:28 PM
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8. Talk about the lesser of two evils... n/t |
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Wed Jan-26-05 01:32 PM
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12. Rice is incompetent and blinded by ideology |
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Gonzales is actively evil.
No contest. Gonzales should NOT be approved.
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Wed Jan-26-05 01:33 PM
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13. Let's face it, Condi is SOS because the position has been downsized. |
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We don't do diplomacy anymore. She'll be getting her marching orders from Don Rumsfield. Maybe the vote reflects a sad fact that, if not Condi, we could be saddled with a fundie neocon who'd be a lot worse. <Glass 1/10 full perspective here.>
But Alberto should be a solid 'no' by the Democrats...he could do some serious damage to civil liberties here at home.
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Wed Jan-26-05 02:09 PM
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I think Rice is worse because of her potential for damage. She will enable Bush to do whatever he and the neocons want, and that is scary. She is our face to the world.
Gonzales was a torture enabler but he was doing his job as legal council, he had not taken an oath to protect the constitution or geneva convention. Rice was an abject failure as National Security Advisor and we know she won't do any better as Secretary of State. For Gonzo I think there might be some sliver of hope.
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Wed Jan-26-05 02:12 PM
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by concentrating on the 'quaint' aspects of the Geneva Conventions and for all the other aid he's given his friend, from the TX death penalty cases to Iraq.
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Wed Jan-26-05 02:16 PM
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18. Both are liars and have blood on their hands. |
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I see no difference since both will still be able to continue engaging in the same sort of behavior with more consolidated power. Both are bad choices.
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Wed Jan-26-05 04:03 PM
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The fact that he violated the code of ethics for attorneys is very important to me.
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Wed Jan-26-05 07:43 PM
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20. the State Dept has no real power in this Administration |
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Condi will be like Powell - zero real power.
This administration doesn't "do" diplomacy.
Gonzalez in the real threat.
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Wed Jan-26-05 07:47 PM
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21. Where's the "They Are Both Fascist Pieces of Shit" option? |
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If this is a trick question to excuse voting for one of them, then the answer is vote no on both, and any other similar nominee that Bush/PNAC puts out there
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Wed Jan-26-05 07:50 PM
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22. I've changed my mind on Gonzales. I would rather die than vote for him. |
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I was ignorant before about him, but I would vote against his confirmation if it meant losing my job.
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