36 soldiers killed today. It's time to hold Bush VOTERS accountable.

[El Fuego]

I think we should start telling the Bush voters, every chance we get, that they are directly responsible for the deaths of our soldiers and a hundred thousand innocent Iraqis.

It's Bush's war, he has the blood on his hands. He sent the military in for an illegal, unilateral, unjust invasion. He's responsible.

The Bush voters chose to send Bush to be president of the United States. They are responsible for his actions. The Bush voters have the BLOOD ON THEIR HANDS.

Bush says the election results were "accountability." But the accountability should logically be reciprocal. Bush people: You are responsible for the government YOU chose.

36 Marines lose their lives today? I say to them: "You did it."

Iraqi children having their limbs blown off: I say to them: "You did it."

100,000 dead Iraqis? Bushies: "You did it."

Thousands of soldiers left permanently disabled, without eyes, arms, legs? To the GOP: Your handiwork. Look at them and know you caused it.

THEY NEED TO OWN UP TO IT.

I have to rant today because I am so angry. :grr: :grr: :grr:

[Joanne98]

1. I agree. It's all their fault. Especially the FUNDIES.

[Albert Einstein]

13. We had that vote today. 32 Dems decided to kiss Bush's feet

and grant him all his wishes.

[KissMeKate]

42. the repug fundies, that is.

liberal fundies are ok :)

[CoffeeCat]

43. You'd think these sick fundies...

...could drop their obsessions about gay marriage and abortion for one freakin minute and take a look at what has happened to this country.

Because these religious jerks don't want gays to marry and because they want to save all of the unborn babies--our democracy is now in jeopardy.

America is hated, not just by our enemies--but also by longstanding friends. We are murdering hundreds of thousands of innocent Iraqis--for a war that was based on lies.

Our deficit is unprecedented and our trade deficit is at critical mass. The dollar is eroding to dust.

For one minute, do you think these frickin stupid morons could shelve their "gay marriage" and abortion agenda, to save this country???

If not, they need to get the fark out. Plain and simple. Anyone who puts these niche social issues ahead of war and peace--is filthy unAmerican scum!!

Sorry...so angry today.

[Pirate Smile]

2. I believe it is up to 37.

[theHandpuppet]

8. Yes, 37 dead was confirmed by several sources

Not counting the wounded, of which there were at least eight to day that I know of.

[ladjf]

3. Way past time to hold them accountable.

[GetTheRightVote]

4. Yes, by voting for this man and his admin, they did do it, blood on Repub

hands.

:kick:

[indianablue]

5. Of course they will say...Kerry voted for it too.

Clinton was for etc etc.

It does not matter these people are lost forever.

[El Fuego]

9. If Gore had been president, the issue wouldn't have been on the table.

This whole war was about oil contracts, from day one of the first bush term.

[Kerrytravelers]

10. I've always said that.

And the arrogance of his followers is what makes it worse for me.

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[efhmc]

14. Answer in a nutshell: NOPE!

Bush and his supporters are responsible for this horrible war and we need to let them deal with the bloody mess they have conceived and continue to support. Lies were told to put us in this war and lies are told about it on a daily basis. The evil done by bush and company has changed our country far more than any terrorists could have ever wished for. Also, please stop screaming. Thanks.

[KissMeKate]

18. "most of the bush voters have kids in Iraq"?

where did you get that horse hockey?

Youve got your facts wrong, my friend.

And its going nowhere but DOWN in Iraq. Bush and success in Iraq are two completely opposing concepts.

[Kerrytravelers]

32. Why are you shouting?

[blonndee]

37. Excuse me, but anyone stupid enough to vote for * are not my "brethren."

Secondly, while possibly well-intentioned, your comment,

"I FOR CAN'T STOMACH THE IDEA OF ABONDONING THESE PEOPLE TO LET THEM MASSACRE THEMSELVES HAVING THEIR WOMEN AND MANY CHILDREN BE SLAUGHTERED AND GROW IN AN ENVIRONMENT OF HOPELESSNESS."

Okay, just WHO has been responsible for the vast majority of the slaughter of innocent civilians in Iraq since we invaded? Who?

Thirdly, I don't understand how you can say "WE ARE AT A POINT TO MAKE IT A SUCCESS." WTF?!? You honestly think there's any chance of a real success? This whole "Iraq election" thing is just a way for Buscho to re-enact the first Sadaam installation. When * talks about "democracy" in Iraq, substitute the words "American corporate interests." Regardless of the long-term results, do you HONESTLY think Buscho gives a flying fuck about the well-being of Iraqis?

Finally, you're afraid if we leave Iraq will "FALL INTO CHAOS"?!? Uhhhh, I don't think it can get much more chaotic. Seems like the chaos started when we showed up. Read the news today? Or, lately?

[LisaM]

6. I completely agree with this

and I defy most of them to name something that happened between 1993-2000 that affected them negatively in this kind of concrete way. I know three people whose sons will be going to Iraq. One is there now - he was supposed to come back permanently in February, now he will be returning in August. Another leaves next Monday; a third will be going in July (and he, also, was told her would not be going - at all, in his case.)

[Malva Zebrina]

7. wait a minute

we have just seen the Democrats support a woman who told numerous lies re this war. We have been rendered moot because of that. Please tell me how anyone can successfully argue that Democrats are against this war. They obviously are not.

Sure Rice and Bush did it, but by this vote, so do the Democrats. they have rendered your point useless.

And by doing so, have washed their hands of those Democrats who sincerely work to stop the war, support the troops, whatever.

[Jacobin]

12. So true, so true

From JK, to Hillary, to Holy Joe, the list goes on and on and on.

Their main complaint is that "it wasn't done 'right'", as if there is a 'correct' way to launch and illegal invasion of a country that has not attacked us.

The PNAC tentacles are fucking everywhere.

[El Fuego]

19. I said this above. . .

Reiterating for clarity.

If Gore had been president, we would not have gone to war with Iraq. Former Treasury Secretary Paul O'Neill made it clear in his book "The Price of Loyalty" that the war was planned from day one back in 2001 so they could divvy up oil contracts.

Look at the actual White House memo from January 2001:

http://thepriceofloyalty.ronsuskind.com/thebushfiles/archives/000067.html

So my point here is that had bush not been elected in the first place in 2000, there would never have been a vote on the issue, let alone an Iraq invasion.

[Malva Zebrina]

23. I was thinking about this today

If there was one single person to blame for this. I considered the media, the thugs who converged on the vote counting places in Florida and came to the conclusion that there is ONE entity to blame for it all and that is the Supreme Court of the United States.

They have blood on their hands for their intervention, where they had no business intervening at all. Siome would say their intervention was illegal. And the ones who did it are still there, making profound judgements upon the laws of the land.

We have NEVER seen this before in our history and it was outrageous. They and Bush got away with it. Nevertheless, they were the initial catalysts of Bush's fascist rise to power.

If it were not for the corrupt court, Bush would NOT have been appointed president and we would indeed have had a different approach to the governing of this country, although I must say, that I would NOT have had much confidence in Lieberman at all, but he would have been contained as vice president.

After that, Bush's propaganda ministry took over. I am in limbo re the facts of 9-11 and so is the entire country because we are not privy to the facts.

They have been with held from our knowledge. And it has been a long long time yet and we still are not privvy to those facts. We only have the word of Bush et al and that is , actually, a joke because they have NO credibility at all.

[El Fuego]

26. You are so RIGHT.

That is it in a nutshell.

[Lefty48197]

15. They voted for more American soldiers to die needlessly

Hell yeah, let's hold em accountable.

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[adigal]

24. Yes, I hold you responsible for the deaths

And define success. On MSNBC tonight, I saw three bodies on the side of road, looked like they were just left there, one was a child. How did we succeed with them? And with 100,000 other dead civilians? You have helped us become what we always hated.

And yes, Drew Garrett, their blood is on your hands. And, like Lady Macbeth, you, and my republican friends, cannot wash it off.

[KissMeKate]

29. you voted for bush, you voted for death.

I hope you dont try to pretend to anyone other than yourself that you are "prolife".

[KissMeKate]

17. I can hardly be civil to republicans anymore.

I have distanced myself from old conservative friends.


I dont know how they sleep at night.

[pretzel4gore]

20. anyone who voted for bush is gonna burn in HELL!

God told me this himself (and he wasn't being facetious!)

[librechik]

21. no way, Clinton did it. He had sex in the helicopter at the factory.

see, not a freeper problem at all.

[KissMeKate]

27. what?

can you give the details of that? thanks

[librechik]

30. (it's a joke}

don't panic--it's always somebody's job here to make the requisite "Clenis" joke--tonight it's me.

Welcome to DU!

:hi:

[KissMeKate]

34. lol ok

I thought there was some juicy story the RW junk yard dogs had not sniffed out yet, lol

[SoCalifer]

22. Very Good Post El Fuego

First off, They created the terrorist who attacked us in the first god damn place --plus-- THEY created the situation to provoke these terrorists to attack in the first god damn place!!

--BUT--

The War In Iraq has NOTHING to do with war against Terrorist. It instead is a WAR for BUSH & his Jackass Corporate greedy Sons Of Bitches!

And These Blind Dumbass Freepers put these Jackasses in the position to cause this Shit!

Take notice Freepers. El Fuego is absolutely correct. "YOU DID IT."

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[KissMeKate]

28. you said most bush voters have kids in Iraq

where did you get your facts on that one?

[adigal]

31. I was being very civil

He said he voted for Bush and if I thought he had blood on his hands, so be it. So I shared my point of view with him.

If he does not want to hear the other side, then he should not play in the sandbox. And just because I blame Bush voters for the deaths does not mean that I don't want our troops to be safe. And I still have not seen Bush, or any other republican, define success in Iraq recently. They keep moving the line - now it is if there is 50% participation in the elections.

Please.

[KissMeKate]

33. bush calls any participation in elections success

what a lying fuckwad.

[Kerrytravelers]

35. I can support the troops and hate *

"And just because I blame Bush voters for the deaths does not mean that I don't want our troops to be safe..."


...exactly. These two are in no way related. I have great sorrow for the military, being a military brat myself, who ahve been forced into fighting for *'s oil.

And, I still hold those who voted to re-elect the administration that put these American lives at risk responsible.

[adigal]

36. You said it better

Thank you. My father fought in Korea, another questionable military action, but at least he was fighting where someone else had invaded. To use our men and women in the military for God knows what reason, since the reason keeps changing, is a sin. Literally, in my view. And a crime.

[Disturbed]

38. If J. Kerry was Pres. now...

the troops would still be in Iraq, so the death and maiming would still be going on. Most Dems in Congress supported and still support the invasion and occupation of Iraq and most say they want the U.S. to stay until the "mission" is a success. What that mission is has not been defined.

[veracity]

40. sure it has...

Check out the PNAC plans on their own site. They set up the mission in the nineties.....and the who think blew up in their faces. But, of course, that won't stop them.....

[snacker]

39. Here's a little something for each of them...

Someone posted this earlier today.
Check this out, it's excellent:
www.tvnewslies.org/JOIN_UP2.pdf

[veracity]

41. post this flyer whereve you can....

I'd love to see a single Bush supporter respond to the poster with any challenges.... they won't, they can't.....

[L2006]

44. Of course!

The Republican voters caused the helicopter to crash! It's all their fault!

[KissMeKate]

45. the helicopter wouldnt have been there.

so, yes.

[drhilarius]

46. Your actions put them there. The blood is on your hands.

[L2006]

52. My actions put them there?

I'm the one who voted for Kerry.

[Cats Against Frist]

47. The helicopter crash is the least of the problems

BUSH SUPPORTERS, not REPUBLICANS are responsible for this whole fiasco -- from the tarnish on the US, to the torture, to the dead Iraqi children, to the U.S. orphans and childless mothers.

Why? Not because BUSH mislead them. But because they were stupid enough to be mislead.

What the average pleb in the Bush constituency doesn't realize is that the counterparts of the left-wing intellectuals that freepers and other bumpkins with low self-esteem are going on about, the RIGHT-WING, ELITIST, INTELLECTUALS are sitting in THEIR ivory towers have a FUCK of a good laugh at the expense of the Bush supporter, who they consider to be 1. Dumb, 2. Easy to Manipulate and 3. NECESSARY to manipulate.

These are the people who feed Rush and Hannity their talking points, and reality doesn't even matter anymore, because we have the "new objectivity," which is the delusional right-wing subjectivity.

I blame Bush supporters for being so goddamn stupid, more than anything else. Helicopters crash. It takes a special breed of ignorant knuckledragger to let the right-wing elite make a fucking joke out of him.

[blonndee]

48. Well said!! n/t

:thumbsup:

[L2006]

53. Right...

"from the tarnish on the US, to the torture, to the dead Iraqi children, to the U.S. orphans and childless mothers."

I don't remember seeing any torture by the US to dead Iraqi children, or women. I do remember seeing insurgents strapping bombs to little children, why aren't you complaining about that? Have you seen these pictures?

http://www.slccglobelink.com/news/2004/05/25/News/Pictures.From.Iraq.You.Wont.See.In.Other.Media-684725.shtml

[Cats Against Frist]

54. Generally, a comma denotes separation between terms

I didn't say that the US military tortured dead Iraqi children. And I didn't denegrate anyone in the military, either, so spare me the sentimental photo-ops.

I did, however, point out how stupid Bush supporters are. And that they are being strung along by people who don't give a shit about them. But I suppose your "selective hearing" and cognitive dissonance renders you an intellectual eunuch.

[adigal]

55. Yes, it is

It is the repubs fault that those men died, as the neocons who you voted for AGAIN put them there based on lies about WMDs and Iraq and Al Queda. And if you are not well-informed enough to understand that, then we are right in assuming that Bush voters are nitwits.

[Dark]

49. I wonder how pro-life they are now. . . n/t

[El Fuego]

50. Yes, life is only sacred in the womb. (n/t)

[veracity]

51. and the petri dish........

fertilization in the petri dish is common in fertility clinics.......so, let's not forget their sacred nature.....