Iran vows 'astonishing' response to any US, Israeli attack

[BlueTarheel]

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/afp/20050126/wl_mideast_afp/iranusisraelattack


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TEHRAN (AFP) - Iran will carry out an "astonishing" retaliation to any attack against the Islamic republic by Israel or the United States, Iran's Revolutionary Guards warned in comments published.

The Islamic republic also responded to Israeli allegations that it was closer to developing a nuclear weapon, saying the latest accusations were designed to shift attention away from Israel's own weapons and its "terror" against Palestinians.

[GetTheRightVote]

1. * is really pissing off alot of people in the world today.

:kick:

[Junkdrawer]

2. and scaring the rest of us shitless...

http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=05/01/26/1450204

[Ian David]

4. This is what Bush WANTS! He thinks he's fulfilling prophesy

We're not expected to win this war.

He wants us to lose becase he thinks it will trigger The War of the Apocalypse.

[Renew Deal]

3. Maybe they'll drop a nuke on Israel.

I guess that would prove they have them? :shrug:

[Ian David]

5. Nuking Israel would also take out the Palestinians

Finally, peace in the middle east.

No Israel.

No Palestine.

Just peace, quiet, and an un-interrupted supply of oil, glorious oil.

[aquart]

9. I've often suggested that.

Of course, I always proposed evacuating first.

[Renew Deal]

10. lol

:crazy: :nuke:

[Monkie]

11. no chance of that!privately iran and israel coexist,iran has many options

iran has nothing to gain by using nukes.
i know msm portrays iran as a bunch of "mad mullahs"
they are a smart and ancient civilisation and know more about war and diplomacy than most of us imagine.

you see,when america attacks,or lets israel attack (same thing), the whole world except the usa will see iran as the victim of a second illegal war,the usa will have 0 support and iran will know not to waste that advantage on attacking israel or other countries

iran whill suffer under the strikes,but say a few planes get through,any country hosting american soldiers and allowing planes across their airspace to attack iran would be fair game,perfectly legal to attack, iran most likely would shut of ALL oil going through the straits of Hormuz.
and what most commentators have missed,iran has a huge army,they are a patriotic people,there are 150,000 american soldiers in iraq,the iraqi people would welcome them as hero's iran, has many many missiles,iran could/should already have all the co-ordinates of us bases in iraq

[McCamy Taylor]

6. They will spill the beans on Poppy's Votes for Hostages Deal from 1980.

The stuff they used to blackmail Reagan-Bush for all those years so that they could get arms and other goodies from them when they were supposed to be our enemies. The revelations which will appear in the worls press will absolutely destroy Poppy's legacy. Does W. have an Oedipal complex?

[Ian David]

8. George W. Bush and the New American Dominionist Church/State

The Despoiling of America
How George W. Bush became the head of the new American Dominionist Church/State




By Katherine Yurica
With Editorial and Research Assistant Laurie Hall
February 11, 2004

The First Prince of the Theocratic States of America





It happened quietly, with barely a mention in the media. Only the Washington Post dutifully reported it.{1} And only Kevin Phillips saw its significance in his new book, American Dynasty.{2} On December 24, 2001, Pat Robertson resigned his position as President of the Christian Coalition.

Behind the scenes religious conservatives were abuzz with excitement. They believed Robertson had stepped down to allow the ascendance of the President of the United States of America to take his rightful place as the head of the true American Holy Christian Church.

Robertson’s act was symbolic, but it carried a secret and solemn revelation to the faithful. It was the signal that the Bush administration was a government under God that was led by an anointed President who would be the first regent in a dynasty of regents awaiting the return of Jesus to earth. The President would now be the minister through whom God would execute His will in the nation. George W. Bush accepted his scepter and his sword with humility, grace and a sense of exultation.

As Antonin Scalia, Associate Justice of the Supreme Court explained a few months later, the Bible teaches and Christians believe “… that government …derives its moral authority from God. Government is the ‘minister of God’ with powers to ‘revenge,’ to ‘execute wrath,’ including even wrath by the sword…”{3}

More:
http://www.yuricareport.com/Dominionism/TheDespoilingOfAmerica.htm

Also:
Who Does George W. Bush Really Serve?
Rixon Stewart - October 20, 2003

In the yet to be published The Faith of George W. Bush (Tarcher/Penguin), an account of the President’s supposed religious awakening, author Stephen Mansfield writes that in the election year 2000, Bush told Texas preacher James Robison:

"I feel like God wants me to run for president. I can't explain it, but I sense my country is going to need me. . . . I know it won't be easy on me or my family, but God wants me to do it."

Mansfield goes on to say that: "Aides found him face down on the floor in prayer in the Oval Office. It became known that he refused to eat sweets while American troops were in Iraq … And he framed America's challenges in nearly biblical language. Saddam Hussein is an evildoer. He has to go." The author concludes: " . . . the Bush administration does deeply reflect its leader, and this means that policy, even in military matters, will be processed in terms of the personal … and in terms of a sense of divine purpose..."

Renouncing sweets is one thing but being found face down in the Oval Office is another matter. So perhaps should we ask just what George W. Bush was paying homage too? Was it the God of the early Christians, who were urged to renounce more than just sweets? Or is it something else? Could it be the same deity as the one served by the Illuminati; who summon him in their pursuit of worldly power and wealth?

Obviously these are not one and the same but two entirely different deities. The one is recognised by Christians the world over as “Our Father”, who watches over and guides us as a Shepard leads his flock. While the other is a wrathful entity that seeks to punish “evil doers” and rewards only his own chosen few. It is these latter who will be rewarded on Judgement Day, while the rest of humanity will be consigned to fire and perdition. But this, Bush’s Bible thumping advocates tell us, will only come about after a series of calamitous wars in the Middle East.
http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/article.asp?ID=1173


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And on a lighter note...

How do you explain the phenomenal political success of one of this country's least experienced and least intelligent politicians? There are only a few possible explanations:

* George Bush is a tool of Wealthy Corporate Fatcats (Mammon = Satan)
* George Bush has sold his soul to Satan in return for political success.
* America is devolving to monarchy, and looking for another dimwitted King George to crown.
* George Bush is the Antichrist.
* All Of The Above

Exhibit 4: An uncanny reading of current events through the eyes of the Old Testament Prophet Daniel.



Daniel 8:1-17 In the third year of King Belshazzar's reign, I Daniel, had a vision, after the one that had already appeared to me. In my vision I saw in the citadel of Susa in the province of Elam ( in Iraq just east of Babylon)...I looked up and there before me was a ram with two horns (Saddam Hussein), and the horns were long (he had the fourth most powerful army in the world). One of the horns was longer than the others but grew up later (his forces were divided into the regular armed forces and the Republican army, which was formed later and eventually grew into seven divisions). I watched the ram as he charged towards the west, the north and the south. (Saddam was causing a lot of trouble in the region - fighting with Israel in the west, then fighting the Kurds in the north and with Iran along their northern border, and finally invading and occupying Kuwait in the south.) No animal could stand up to him, and none could rescue from his power. He did as he pleased and became great. ( He had become the greatest military power in the region, and was on the verge of acquiring nuclear capability.)

As I was thinking about this, suddenly a goat with a prominent horn came from the west (United States military forces under President George HW Bush), crossing the whole earth without touching the ground (our forces were airlifted in from across the globe). He came towards the two-horned ram (Saddam's forces) that had seen standing by the canal and charged at him in great rage. I saw him attack the ram furiously, striking the ram and shattering his two horns. (the air war shattered and demoralized the dug-in Iraqi forces.) The ram was powerless to stand against him, the goat knocked him to the ground and trampled on him, and none could rescue the ram from his power. (the ground invasion rolled right over Saddam's forces.) The goat became very great, but at the height of his power his large horn was broken off. (in spite of a skyrocketing job approval rate, George WH Bush lost the presidency a year later and was no longer commander-in-chief.) And in its place four prominent horns grew up towards the four winds of heaven. (Bush Sr had three sons and a daughter who died of leukemia.) Out of one of them came another horn, which started small but grew in power to the south and to the east and toward the Beautiful Land. (George W bush spent most of his adult life drinking and failing at business ventures. But then out of nowhere he was elected governor of the southern state of Texas, then he went east to Washington DC to assume the presidency, and now he's heading to the middle east (the 'beautiful land').) It grew until it reached the host of heaven and it threw some of the starry hosts down to earth and trampled on them. (There will be an air and bombing campaign followed by a ground war.) It set itself up as great as the Prince of the host; ('Operation Infinite Justice', pretending that his justice and power is equal to that of an infinite God) it took away the place of daily sacrifice from him, and the place of his sanctuary was brought low. (war will engulf the middle east as religious terrorists are tracked down and any states which offer them sanctuary are attacked). The heavenly host was delivered up (countless innocent civilians will be slaughtered), and the little horn (George bush Jr.) raised itself impiously against the regular offering and cast true religion to the ground; (he claims to be fighting against evil, but just the opposite is the case) It succeeded in all he did, and truth was thrown to the ground (he will be very successful in his 'war against terrorism', and fool a lot of people).

Then I heard a holy one speaking, and another holy one said to him, "How long will it take for the vision to be fullfilled? -....." He said to me, "It will take 2,300 evenings and mornings; then the sanctuary will be reconsecrated." (the war will last about six and a half years, causing an unbelievable amount death and destruction - then the antichrist will be removed by God and peace restored)....While I, Daniel, was watching the vision and trying to understand it, there before me stood one one who looked like a man. (the son of God) And I heard a man's voice calling, "Gabriel, tell this man the meaning of the vision." As he came near the place I was standing, I was terrified and fell prostrate. "Son of man," he said to me, "understand that the vision concerns the time of the end." (we are entering the last days - the Apocalypse.)

Exhibit 5: Important scriptural clues concerning the identity of the AntiChrist from the book of Revelation and other parts of the New Testament::





Rev 9:1 I saw a star fall from heaven unto earth: and to him was given the key of the bottomless pit. When Satan was cast down from the heavens, he came down to earth like a fallen and solitary star. Texas is know as the 'lone star state', and the 'bottomless pit', of course, refers to what passes for hell on earth - the hopeless pit of poverty. Texas has one of the nation's highest rates of child poverty - 26.2%; the highest rate of citizens without any health insurance - 24.5%; and a recent Department of Agriculture study says that 5% of Texas households sometimes go without any food at all. Yet Texas has the most regressive tax structure and spends the least per capita on social services than any state in the union. As governor for the last five years, Mr. Bush has had the key in his hand that could have helped open the door out of poverty for millions of Texans, but instead he prided himself in building a record of cutting taxes for Texas' wealthiest citizens and campaign contributors.

Rev 13:15 And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed. This refers to Mr. Bush's roll as the bloodiest governor in the nation. Texas has the nations highest rate of incarceration, and executes far more prisoners than any other state, (Texas is also the first state to have more people die from gunshot wounds than automobile accidents, and the murder rate is above the national average - so much for deterrence). In Texas, an African-American convicted of killing a white is 6 times more likely to receive the death penalty than in the reverse case. When a sincere Christian named Karla Faye Tucker begged for mercy, so that she might continue her ministry in prison, Gov Bush is reported to have mocked and laughed at her anguished pleas. She became the first woman to be executed in Texas since the Civil War. While at the same time he spared the life of the infamous, self-confessed child molester and mass-murdering (200+) Satanist and serial killer Henry Lee Lukas - the only death-row inmate ever to earn clemency from Bush.


II Thes 2:4 who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, showing himself that he is God By naming his war in the Middle East, "Operation Infinite Justice", he is putting himself and our entire country in the place of God. Only the infinite God is capable of showing infinite mercy and justice towards mankind. Whatever justice we can mete out in this life is only a very sad immitation, always prone to great errors in judgement.

To pretend that we can bring "infinite justice" to the world with all our smart bombs and cruise missiles, tanks and bombers is the worst sort of blasphemy imaginable. To pretend that the murder of countless innocent civilians, as will inevitably be the case, is some sort of divine and "infinite justice", is something only the antichrist, completely corrupted by its own power, could ever dream up.
Mark 13:14 But when ye shall see the abomination of desolation ...standing where it ought not...flee. The "abomination of desolation" refers to the obscene wave of gun violence now sweeping across our country. Bush has now even signed a law allowing gun owners to bring their guns into a church. In doing so, he's allowing a symbol of violence and death to be brought into a sacred house of worship - where it ought not to be. He's also signed legislation to prohibit Texas cities and counties from suing firearm or ammunition makers or sellers. And he refused to require background checks at gun shows -- despite repeated requests from the police chiefs of the seven largest cities in his state. He defends all his pro-gun actions by saying that, ""I support the Second Amendment.", even though the overwhelming majority of federal courts have ruled against the NRA's interpretation of the Second Amendment.


Rev 9:2 And he opened the bottomless pit; and there arose a smoke out of the pit, as the smoke of a great furnace; and the sun and the air were darkened by reason of the smoke from the pit. Because of Gov Bush's campaign to make air pollution regulations voluntary rather than mandatory, Texas now ranks first in the nation in toxic air emissions from industrial facilities, discharging over 100 million pounds of cancer causing pollutants and other contaminants into the air annually. Bush also helped overturn a viable auto-emissions testing program in favor of one that costs more, tests less accurately and is easier to evade. Houston has just become home to the dirtiest air in the nation, outranking Los Angeles. And the non-partisan League of Conservation Voters recently called him the "biggest threat to the environment of any leading major party presidential candidate."


2 Tim 4:3 "For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts will they heap unto themselves teachers, having itching ears."

IIThes 2:3 "..for that day shall not come, except there comes a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition."


The writing of the Apostles indicates that many people who call themselves Christians will eventually follow another gospel, and it is these people who will usher in the last days. The Religious Right is a corrupt religious heresy where people calling themselves Christians have turned their back on the poor and gone on to savagely persecute the most persecuted (gays). Rather than honoring God, they've made money and status their god, they profess 'family values' rather than Christian values, and they practice a crude name it/claim it ideology as a way of increasing their sins and mocking God. They use their opposition to abortion as the proof of their righteousness - really because it doesn't cost them anything. That is not to say there is not still a remnant of true Christians in the world - mostly abroad and among the poor. But America's arrogant and affluent rightwing cultists are a hateful abomination, and just as it was prophesied, these heretical hypocrites, first being deceived by their own greed and lusts, have now helped to bring the AntiChrist to power. In so doing, they have finally ushered in the Apocalypse, to their own eternal damnation.


Rev 13:5 And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies;

"There Ought to be Limits to Freedom!"

That's what the governor said after looking at another website parody, created by Zack Exley at http://www.gwbush.com/. Then he sicked his lawyers on the guy and tried to censor free speech on the internet. (The governor has also had Texas citizens forcibly removed and jailed for peacefully protesting on the public sidewalk in front of the Governor's Mansion. The protesters have since taken the governor to court to defend their First Amendment rights.)

More:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=post&forum=132&topic_id=1535657&mesg_id=1535698

[aquart]

7. God knows, it won't be a surprise attack.

[notadmblnd]

12. there's gonna be another party in the Middle East

I can just see the flowers and the dancing now. NOT!