Excerpt of Sy Hersch on Democracy Now

[Donailin]

If this has already been posted, my apologies to the monitor, please remove if so. I find this interview compelling, the language is stronger than I have heard from Hersch in other interviews. This is the last portion of the interview, the first is just as sobering. (As if we aren't sober enough)
http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=05/01/26/1450204

"For me, it's just another story, but out of this comes a core of -- you know, we all deal in “macro” in Washington. On the macro, we're hopeless. We're nowhere. The press is nowhere. The congress is nowhere. The military is nowhere. Every four-star General I know is saying, “Who is going to tell them we have no clothes?” Nobody is going to do it. Everybody is afraid to tell Rumsfeld anything. That's just the way it is. It's a system built on fear. It's not lack of integrity, it's more profound than that. Because there is individual integrity. It's a system that's completely been taken over -- by cultists. Anyway, what's going to happen, I think, as the casualties mount and these stories get around, and the mothers see the cost and the fathers see the cost, as the kids come home. And the wounded ones come back, and there's wards that you will never hear about. That's wards -- you know about the terrible catastrophic injuries, but you don't know about the vegetables. There's ward after ward of vegetables because the brain injuries are so enormous. As you maybe read last week, there was a new study in one of the medical journals that the number of survivors are greater with catastrophic injuries because of their better medical treatment and the better armor they have. So you get more extreme injuries to extremities. We're going to learn more and I think you're going to see, it's going to -- it's -- I'm trying to be optimistic. We're going to see a bottom swelling from inside the ranks. You're beginning to see it. What happened with the soldiers asking those questions, you may see more of that. I'm not suggesting we're going to have mutinies, but I'm going to suggest you're going to see more dissatisfaction being expressed. Maybe that will do it. Another salvation may be the economy. It's going to go very bad, folks. You know, if you have not sold your stocks and bought property in Italy, you better do it quick. And the third thing is Europe -- Europe is not going to tolerate us much longer. The rage there is enormous. I'm talking about our old-fashioned allies. We could see something there, collective action against us. Certainly, nobody -- it's going to be an awful lot of dancing on our graves as the dollar goes bad and everybody stops buying our bonds, our credit -- our -- we're spending $2 billion a day to float the debt, and one of these days, the Japanese and the Russians, everybody is going to start buying oil in Euros instead of dollars. We're going to see enormous panic here. But he could get through that. That will be another year, and the damage he’s going to do between then and now is enormous. We’re going to have some very bad months ahead. "

[Kolesar]

1. Same DemocracyNow article in the Editorials forum

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=103x101158

I had just read the thread. What a coincidence. excerpt:

Since we installed our puppet government, this man, Allawi, who was a member of the Mukabarat, the secret police of Saddam, long before he became a critic, and is basically Saddam-lite. Before we installed him, since we have installed him on June 28, July, August, September, October, November, every month, one thing happened: the number of sorties, bombing raids by one plane, and the number of tonnage dropped has grown exponentially each month. We are systematically bombing that country. There are no embedded journalists at Doha, the Air Force base I think we’re operating out of. No embedded journalists at the aircraft carrier, Harry Truman. That's the aircraft carrier that I think is doing many of the operational fights.

[ClintonTyree]

2. And then WE have to pay to rebuild it........................

they've reduced the cities to rubble. The refugee camps are full, over crowded really. In the end, we're going to "exit" the country and it will be an absolute wreck.
Bush has done more to support Bin Laden's agenda than Bin Laden himself could ever dream of. Everything he has said about the United States in the past decade has become fact. For young, disillusioned, unemployed, under educated Muslims, this has become their rallying cry. They're willing to give up their miserable lives on this worldly plane for a better chance in the afterlife.
Way to go Bush! You've been the best recruiter Al Qaeda has ever had.

[The Backlash Cometh]

3. I don't know if the line he wrote is in that paragraph, but there was one

that jumped out at me. In the Mai Lai incident, when the soldiers were shooting at women and children in the ditches, did you know that the hispanics and the blacks shot high? It was the white poor males who aimed to kill.

Isn't it time to recognize that there is a lot of hatred and resentment in these people and it goes back to outsourcing their blue collar jobs where they could once make a good living from?

[enough]

4. A must-read article.

I was literally shaking by the time I finished it, with fear and rage.