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spindoctor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-04 03:59 AM
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Are Dean supporters frustrated by Kucinich?
"Do you feel betrayed?"
"How can Kucinich support a candidate that voted for the war?"

These and other questions have been fired at me this week, without exception by Dean supporters.

Folks, I feel honored by the assumption that all the support from the Kucinich clan tipped the scale in Iowa, but please deal with the reality that Dean didn't make it on his own and there is nobody else to blame for that.

I feel your pain.
My candidate scores 5% on a good day in some polls.
My heart truly bleeds for you guys.

I do not feel betrayed, I do not feel discouraged. As long as Kooch is in the race, his (and my) opinions will be heard. I trust Kucinich (unlike any of the other candidates) and I trust his judgement in these matters. If I lived on the other side of the Missouri, I too would have followed his advise and voted Edwards.

As for the war, even though it matters a great deal to me it is not the single decisive factor in this election. If it was, my choice would be limited to Sharpton and Kooch, because I feel (and I say "I feel" because I have no intention of rehashing the debate) that Dean's supposed anti-war stance is a farce. I don't hold that against him, but I don't hold it against Kerry, Gephardt or Edwards either.

Isn't it arrogance from the Dean clan to assume that he (Dean) is the only valid alternative for Kucinich? Isn't it ignorance on their behalf to blame his defeat on all four of us Kucinich-voters? Isn't it intolerant to now "attack" Kucinich supporters for Dean's faillure when the problem clearly lies in their own camp?

I know. This does not apply to all Dean supporters (far be it from me to generalize), but apparently there is a significant group that feels this way.

Let it roll, folks. The road to Boston is still long and you don't want to piss off any more people than you have to. That luxury is preserved for supporters of single digit pollees.
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Dookus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-04 04:03 AM
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1. Don't worry...
I think some people are just looking for an excuse for why Edwards did so much better than Dean.

I can't believe that Kucinich's supporters could make that much of a difference in Iowa. Don't worry about it.

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Cheswick2.0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-04 04:08 AM
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4. We understand what happened in IA
do you?
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Dookus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-04 04:41 AM
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8. well...
I understand that the vast majority of people voted for Edwards and Kerry.

I've read assertions that massive numbers of republicans infiltrated the caucuses, but I find that assertion unreasonable.
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Cheswick2.0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-04 04:07 AM
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2. no on frustrated by DK
Edited on Wed Jan-21-04 04:16 AM by Cheswick
I am not particulary fond of his conservative votes on several issues. Though I like some of his supporters here I don't assume anything...but I am sure if you keep saying we are arrogant and assume you all belong to us, you can drum up a lot of support for your position here on DU.
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lcordero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-04 04:07 AM
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3. Kooch was doing what was realistic
The rest of the candidates, for the exception of Sharpton, are occupationists. So all of them are equal in that respect no matter what. Lip service is noise and nothing else.
Edwards is a hell of a lot closer to Kucinich than anybody else as far as worker issues and trade policy are concerned.
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cyclezealot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-04 04:37 AM
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7. Icordero.
I will keep that in mind in evaluating Edwards..When it comes to workers and job issues, I suspected I might think Gephardt was trustworthy... None of the others gained my confidence. I will re-evaluate Edwards.. Had it not been for Dean's condensending comments to Dennis, maybe I would be less cynical about Dean's conversion on trade issues. No one else has the trust of Dennis Kucinich for being a real fighter for working people.
It was arrogrant of the Dean people to think we Kucinich people would gravitate to Dean, after those ugly comments,when on working class issues; some of the others might be more trustworthy than Dean.
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lcordero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-04 05:18 AM
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9. I wasn't defending Edwards, I was defending Kucinich
:)
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anti-bush Donating Member (397 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-04 04:14 AM
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5. Amen! Great post! n/t
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Jim Sagle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-04 04:31 AM
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6. DK was looking out for #1. Most politicians do.
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