Clinton on C-Span2: "I like GWB, I get him."

[sabra]

Talking about how they come from the same part of the world, and that even in 2k he noted to Gore that * is a good politician.

hmm....

On right now...

[dubyaD40web]

1. I'm really getting sick of Bubba pimpin'

Bush!

[cthrumatrix]

11. they are doing the work of their corp owners (not us) - wake up

[sabra]

2. Flipping between prez Kerry on CSPAN1 and prez Clinton 2....

[JI7]

cspan will probably repeat both later on today

watching Kerry now, will watch Clinton later.

[Cocoa]

3. Clinton's from New England?

Clinton came from a patrician New England family? Who knew?

[JI7]

12. hhahaa, so true

[Al-CIAda]

4. Clinton is a DLC TRAITOR

[Tinoire]

5. In his own words. How nice.

The entire Clinton branch of the Democratic Party seems to 'like GWB, gets him' too. :puke:

[cthrumatrix]

6. Clinton & Bush are part of the Global elite with a big agenda

sure they are different in personalities.

If Clinton were an honest man he would come out swing on the war, Iran, soc sec reform, the medicare sham.

The fact is there is a global agenda...they are using Clinton to prop up Bush since he is in power.

[Tinoire]

21. Bingo. & those who refuse to see it out of blind loyalty are not helping

us get out of the mess they both put us in.

Clinton can't come out swinging on the war. He waged it too! Economic sanctions, no-fly zones, and daily bombings of a country IS war! Neo-liberals can call it whatever they want but that IS war. Iraq was warred against for 14 straight years. 14 years!!

Clinton. A republican by any other name. My relationship with him went from total admiration to pure disgust and the education you get at DU had a lot to do with it. These people say one thing but when you watch them in action, day after day, you realize what liars they are.

NAFTA. GATT. WTO. Welfare Reform. Plan Colombia. A war against Yugoslavia to force them to play our free-market game. Things are going to get very, very bloody now because the sleeping bear, Russia, has woken up. Ukraine was the last straw and PNAC's sabre rattling is not helping.

Between the groundwork Clinton laid and the total disaster Bush has created, we're pretty much finished as an empire. And it's going to hurt like a M-F.

[BlueEyedSon]

7. He is a slimy politician.

[WI_DEM]

8. Clinton has never masked that he personally likes W

[KittyWampus]

65. That's The Biggest Pile Of Bullshit Yet. How About Some Links To That

one.

[lojasmo]

68. How about the quotation in the OP? Where he says "I like GWB"

"I get him"

[Ganja Ninja]

9. Is he trying to use reverse psychology?

I can't believe he really means that. They must have planted something in his brain during his heart surgery.

[msgadget]

20. No, he recognizes a fellow user of good ol' boy charm when he sees one.

[CWebster]

25. As a fellow member of the good ol boys club

as their women buoy them up.

[Ganja Ninja]

34. Maybe he's trying to get close to the twins.

He's a hound.

[Yupster]

44. Good one Sentinel

He most have liked that green inaugural ball gown.

[flpoljunkie]

31. Bush's "charm" is a that of an callow frat boy--charm challenged!

[jean]

43. Imagine the sound of a needle scratching across the Repub noise machine's

daily soundtrack. That's Bill Clinton reaching out and touching W or Poppy.

The act throws a big wrench into the machinery of the neocon agenda. Their's is definitely NOT a 'plays well with others' mindset.

Am I not destroying my enemies when I make friends of them?
Abe Lincoln

A wise man gets more use from his enemies than a fool from his friends.
Baltasar Gracian

[msgadget]

48. Thanks to you,

I can see how we could give him credit for this kind of savvy. Still, Clinton is the ultimate centrist so it could be an 'in your face' or it could really just be him expressing true admiration for another politician's success at connecting strongly with a base.

[CWebster]

49. That would be romanticizing it

He has given a pass on so much of the Bush agenda--and advised others to do the same, all along.

[montanacowboy]

10. Bubba and Poppy

are going to the Super Bowl together - how much sicker does this get?

[MattNC]

13. great discussion so far

Even when I disagree with him I always love hearing Clinton speak.

[rman]

17. would you vote for Clinton because you "like him",

and in spite of the fact that you disagree with him?

is it politics or is it a popularity contest?

what significance is there to political representatives of the people, other then their stance on issues?

[KoKo]

40. It was an excellent discussion...didn't deserve the "fly by's" on this ...

[Alisa]

14. This is a leading Democrat?! I guess that explains a lot.

[politicaholic]

15. This must be his interview for The Carlyle Group.

Soon another new member? Tony Blair!

[arcane1]

16. well, that's the 2-party system for you

:puke:

[Vinca]

45. I was going to say this made me want to puke

but you beat me to it. Oh well, what the hell. I'll add to the pile.:puke: :puke: :puke: :puke:

[arcane1]

47. indeed

:puke:

[soleft]

18. Fellow Bildenbergers?

:shrug:

[cthrumatrix]

64. they are the "Global Elite" ...they are NOT on the side of the people

corporations own the powerful and wealthy

[rman]

19. Now you've done it, Billy boy.

-

[itzamirakul]

22. Well, I guess the

freepers lurking on this board are having orgasms right now.

I never thought that Bill Clinton would make me sick to my stomach...it is like putting a nail in the coffin of the Democratic Party.

[OneBlueSky]

23. Billary = DLC = corporate whores = BushCo enablers . . .

I'm sick of both of them . . .

[Old Mouse]

24. Clinton knows that * is directly involved with those that impeached him

and speaks passionately about how morally wrong are the people that ruin reputations and lives to gain power.

There must be more to Clinton's new found respect and enthusiasm for the leader of the cult that defamed him, destroyed his friends and dismantled the good works he did for this country... certainly more than just "I get him..."

Personally - and this is my tin foil hat talking - I am beginning to speculate that some of our top Democratic leaders fear Bush is poised to stage a fake terrorist attack against innocent American citizens to insure against any loss of power, and these Democratic leaders are placating Bush to safeguard lives.

[CWebster]

29. nah, more likely part of the Hillary '08 deal. nt

[KoKo]

38. I saw the interview....and what you say...

is "chilling" because that's exactly what I thought. All the people on this thread dissing that interview should have stayed with it. I think reading between the lines and even in some cases not having to...Clinton layed out what we are up against.

And...it's not "tinfoil hat" what you say...I think Chimp's Poppy is worried that his spawn is going to do something and that's what this alliance with Clinton is.

I hope if it's repeated more DU'ers who are open minded will watch it.
It's fascinating..

[KoKo]

39. dupe

[Old and In the Way]

41. I got the same tinfoil hat....

So what's Bush got on Bill? What's got him loving his enemies? Sorry, I can't believe someone who endured an 8 year Inquisition and impeachment has turned the other cheeck. There's something here we don't know about.

[Al-CIAda]

61. Mena, Arkansas. They go way back. Drug smuggling.

[Old and In the Way]

69. I used to think that was a crock.

I'm no longer sure about anything. I do think America's 1st family of crime has made a career out of blackmailing and character assassination in their fight to the top of the shitpile. I wonder how many Democratic leaders have been compromised, one way or another?

[paulk]

26. oh boy -

this should be a good chance to trash Clinton....

[CWebster]

32. or put on the blinders. nt

[Dogmudgeon]

27. Enough with the petulence

Clinton has made a lot of remarks like this. And every time, we've put more energy into complaining about how Clinton "was the best Republican President we ever had" than using his statements as a political hammer.

Save the accusations of whoredom and treason for those who really deserve the epithet. If you need reminding, many of them live in Washington, DC. The frustration is understandable, but a lot of us risk passing up A Good Thing in our demands for political purity.

Clinton has just provided us with a sound bite that we can use for years to hammer the right-wing voices of hate. Every wingnut remark about ultra-libbrul "Slick Willie" now has a devastatingly effective comeback: "You Conservatives are so full of hatred. Even Bill Clinton can find good things to say about Our Beloved Leader!"

If -- when -- some member of the Press picks it up, don't think it won't get play.

We should take our traction where we can find it. Bill Clinton just gave us the equivalent of snow chains.

--p!

[CWebster]

36. Some folks just can't get their ass kicked enough times

some more mileage on that "purity" justification while the Country sinks in the muck.

[Dogmudgeon]

42. Lots of mileage

"Purity" has been getting milage aince about 2000.

The cocktail-party left has been working the anti-Clinton tropes since the early 1990s.

Yes, the country -- and the world -- sinks in the muck. And whining about Big Bad Bill helps us ... how?

--p!

[CWebster]

50. Ah, bymaybe clearing the glaze out of the eye

and throwing the weight behind the Democrat who opposes, not makey nicey with all that brung us into this muck. You know, the Democrats who the Clintons oppose.

BTW, never been to a cocktail party in my life. Don't rightly think I have ever had a proper cocktail, for that matter.

[Al-CIAda]

28. Clinton is going to be Sec U.N. -to complete the corporate takeover

[cthrumatrix]

35. he's all about power for his owners.... we are pawns --- wake up people

[TexasSissy]

30. Which Clinton? Bill or Hill?

[sabra]

33. Bill

[GottiBys]

37. He's always liked him

They've been golfing together for years.

[earth mom]

46. Spoken like a true Republican...he's gone to the other side for sure

Time to hurl! :puke:

[paulk]

51. you really should provide the context in which this was said

instead of cherry picking a single sentence.

He preceded this with a long list of Bush administration policies that he disagreed with - and has spoken out against.

The naysayers on this thread should watch the show - c-span will be repeating it - before jumping to conclusions.

[KoKo]

53. Exactly...the Subject Line is out of Context...and poster doesn't

give back up to the rest of the discussion. Makes me wonder if they even saw the interview. :eyes: Or were just taking "pot shots."

[sabra]

62. I saw the discussion, just reported what I heard BC say at that exact time

if you note in the message, I state that you should watch now to see the rest... I did hear him talk about the GOP tactics, and I/P conflict, but I did find his statement about * alarming...

[sabra]

63. I will let you provide that...

thanks for doing that.

[joanski01]

52. Your thread title is not fair.

You can't take a great discussion like Clinton was having over there in Switzerland and pick out something like the above. Besides, I thought he explained it pretty clearly and it showed his maturity in not letting those thugs get to him.

Why didn't you report on all the things he said against Bush's* policies, like the environment, budget, debt, etc, etc,? That bush* should have let Hans Blix finish the inspections.

Why didn't you say that Ted Turner gave him a round of applause for telling that audience from 96 countries about how the US took down the leader of Iran, and then that Ayatolla got in there, and how the US was Sadam's best friend. Clinton even said that Americans weren't supposed to tell that story, but that was what he believed.

I thought it was weird that just when Clinton was going to give his advice on Israel/Palestine, the signal was lost. Usually, when that happens, the C-Span host says, we'll be back as soon as we reconnect. This time he said, we lost the signal, so we'll just move along. Boo!

[sabra]

54. I agree, and I will let you report that...

I just posted what he said at that exact time, but indicated that people should turn it on and watch...

[KoKo]

55. joanski01, see this thread about the Davos Interview..

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x3015137

Your comments would be appreciated over there.

[joanski01]

58. OK. But first I'm going to log off and go

watch C-Span2 right now. C-Span2 said that at 3:25 p.m. there was going to be something on Withdrawal from Iraq. I want to see if it is Ted Kennedy's speech this morning at Johns Hopkins. Thanks.

[JaneQPublic]

56. He "got" Monica, too. So much for good judgment. (nt)

[Blue Wally]

57. Yeah, and if we had let Starr take him down...

...incumbent President Gore would have won it all in 2000 going away (and again in 2004 so long as he didn't take office before 1999).

[grasswire]

59. I think Clinton is playing Bush

George is so desperate for approval that Clinton can get to him. I think it's kind of cool, and I trust Clinton to use the opportunity to suggest moderation of Bush's ambitions.

Bush is a mentally ill man. Clinton's coming alongside for a purpose, I think. I hope.

[Generator]

60. Are you Clinton lovers starting to feel had?

Because I can honestly say his charms never swayed me. Oh..and I only voted for him the first time to get rid of THAT Bush. My 1996 Nader vote is smelling sweeter everyday (oh I know the costs were nil but it was the only time I haven't voted Dem in a major race).

I always liked Gore better.

I've asked what Bubba has been doing since 2000 to stop Bush, his war, his policies, and I hear a cannon of echos...what's that? speak up now....

[cestpaspossible]

66. I wonder why they call him Slick Willie

lol

[McCamy Taylor]

67. Bill had the goods on Hostages for Votes and didnt use it

Maybe the Bush Cabal is grateful.

[Vinnie From Indy]

70. Clinton is and always has been a POLITICIAN

Politicians speak politically and Clinton is a grand master politician.

[mvd]

71. ARGH

I thought he was a good leader with charisma and a war room method we need back, but how can he "get" Bush when they come from different backgrounds? Bush is not even a real Southerner!

It's obvious that we need new thinking for these new times.