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propagandafreegal Donating Member (452 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 07:43 PM
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Has anybody seen this photo of John Kerry?? is it real?
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Cush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 07:45 PM
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1. he met with Ming The Merciless?
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gaia_gardener Donating Member (333 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 07:45 PM
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2. Fake
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propagandafreegal Donating Member (452 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 07:47 PM
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8. Thanks nm
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mordarlar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 07:55 PM
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33. wow thank you. Good lesson in caution ; )
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BamaLefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 07:45 PM
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3. Yikes...
I don't know. If it is true, Kerry is pretty dumb.
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BamaLefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 07:47 PM
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7. Good, It Is Fake
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 07:46 PM
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4. It's bull shit and where did you get it?
http://www.snopes.com/photos/politics/lavey.asp

While I don't take Snope's word on everything, this piece seems well researched.
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propagandafreegal Donating Member (452 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 07:48 PM
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10. I was googling something else and came across this link... nm
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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 08:56 PM
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24. What, were you googling "Kerry+satanism" or something?
NT!

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propagandafreegal Donating Member (452 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 07:23 PM
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29. No, I wasn't googling Kerry at all. I've been done w/ Kerry since Nov4 nm
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noamnety Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 07:46 PM
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5. It means
Edited on Sun Jan-30-05 07:47 PM by lwfern
edit: on reading the snopes thing, I guess it means people will go to any lengths to try to smear the guy.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 07:47 PM
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6. What does it mean?
Kerry hatred knows no ends. That's what it means. :eyes:
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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 07:48 PM
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9. I'm shocked that Rove didn't run an ad with that photo during the
campaign. Their fundie base would have been speechless.
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CanOfWhoopAss Donating Member (776 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 07:58 PM
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16. Rove knew it's authenticity...
isn't even close enough to try.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 09:45 PM
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27. Hey at least Kerry would be
for all religions and open-minded. :) Much more then Bushie.
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American Tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 07:49 PM
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11. That is a fake picture. Funny, though.
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auntAgonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 07:51 PM
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12. fake some more.......
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ynksnewyork2 Donating Member (138 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 07:52 PM
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13. Too funny!
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Kerrytravelers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 07:57 PM
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15. There is also a pic with Kerry next to Herman Munster...
Edited on Sun Jan-30-05 07:57 PM by Kerrytravelers
some people have too much time on their hands.
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CanOfWhoopAss Donating Member (776 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 07:56 PM
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14. Not even a good photoshop job
I'm no expert but it's obvious that the shadow Kerry casts is in a different light from that of the nutjob he's been positioned next to. I bet I could do that with MS Photoeditor
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Coastie for Truth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 08:04 PM
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19. BFD
Check it out--


I wish the Freepers and repukes would quit assuming that we are as unsophisticated and stupid as they are.

You are probably right about MS Photoeditor. The jerk who did this was probably overchallenged by the Photoshop toolbars.
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Carni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 08:01 PM
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17. Oh geeezz.... LMAO!
I had never seen this...it's a real hoot!

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Padraig18 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 08:03 PM
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18. Photo-shopped
Anton LaVey has been dead for ears.
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farmbo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 08:06 PM
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20. It's bogus...but scroll down to the Brit Girl...Pretty sure that's real.
eom
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Algorem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 08:09 PM
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21. Kerry's laughing,thinking,"you've got nothing on Skull and Bones,doosh"
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paineinthearse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 08:36 PM
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22. Looks fake to me
and the corner is conveniently bent to hide the date.

As the originator, as you have launched the speculation, how about going to your library and looking at microfilm of back issues of the SF Chronicle and/or searching the archives online at http://www.sfgate.com/search/ and/or contacting them at support@sfgate.com
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EC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 08:54 PM
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23. Sorry if I sound snarky here, but this is one of my pet peeves...
You are on a computer, why didn't you look it up? This is how the Republicans got so many people to believe all their lies...Here is what you would have found (besides the conveniently fold by the date and the name of the paper not showing completely):

http://www.snopes.com/photos/politics/lavey.asp


Claim: Photograph shows Senator John Kerry shaking hands with Anton LaVey, founder of the Church of Satan.

Status: False.

Example:





PLEASE ALLOW ME TO INTRODUCE MYSELF: Anton La Vey, high priest of the Church of Satan, meets with noted Attorney John Kerry at CISPES function.


Origins: Politics often joins some strange bedfellows, but it doesn't get much stranger than this: Senator John Kerry of Massachusetts posing with Anton Lavey, the self-proclaimed High Priest of the Church of Satan.

This one is easy to debunk even without knowing anything about the origins of the photograph. Although a portion of the date in the putative newspaper clipping is (deliberately) obscured, enough of it shows to reveal that the article in question supposedly comes from an edition of the San Francisco Chronicle published on a Sunday, July 17, sometime in the 1980s. Only twice in the 1980s did July 17 fall on a Sunday, in 1983 and 1988, and the 1983 date is ruled out because the article refers to "congressman John Kerry," but Kerry wasn't first elected to Congress until 1984. A search of the 17 July 1988 edition of the San Francisco Chronicle turns up no such article.

This item is doubly debunkable because we do know something about the origins of the photograph. It's a fake, a composite made from two other images: one of John Kerry greeting clown Rami Salami in 1998, and a picture of Anton LaVey posing with rocker Marilyn Manson in 1994:







Last updated: 28 October 2004


The URL for this page is http://www.snopes.com/photos/politics/lavey.asp

Urban Legends Reference Pages © 1995-2005
by Barbara and David P. Mikkelson
This material may not be reproduced without permission.
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marcologico Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 09:00 PM
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25. Looks real but it's what, 30 years old? So this guy came to a fundraiser,
maybe it was Halloween. Who is he anyway?
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marcologico Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 09:03 PM
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26. Oops, EC just debunked it in post #23. That was fast! n/t
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TexasSissy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 07:27 PM
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30. You think THAT looked real? Are you wearing your glasses?
That thing looked as fake as all get out.
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pamela Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 10:34 PM
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28. Back in March some Freeper posted this...
on another message board with a link to PrisonPlanet. I emailed San Francisco Chronicle about it and got this email back from them.

"I'm sure someone else has already written you, but it's a fake as you can
tell, and a bad one at that. We have never ever used that typeface in our
newspaper, and a high schooler with Photoshop could do a better job. The
Fonda-Kerry pic was better done but still a fake as well.

I glanced around PrisonPlanet a little bit. While I'm all in favor of people
consulting alternate news sources, they're a joke.

Thanks for reading.

-- de la F.
-----------------------------
David de la Fuente, online editor"



About a half hour after I got the email from the Chronicle, I checked the freeper's link again and PrisonPlanet was retracting the story and issued an apology. All this went down the day before the Super Tuesday primaries and it pissed me off big time. I'm surprised it didn't get more play on the internet but I think the Chronicle was pretty pissed about it, too, and quickly put an end to it.
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DemOperative Donating Member (146 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 08:01 PM
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34. IF I was Anton La Vey I'd be PISSED
he hates politicians. Except the ones that make the Sign of Satan:


:evilgrin:
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 07:30 PM
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31. Flash! Aaaaahhh-ahhhhh! He'll save every one of us!
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 07:38 PM
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32. That's not Anton LeVay, thats me! And I'm Church of Religious Science!
:evilgrin: OOPS! I meant to say :hi: Have a blessed day! :loveya:
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