War Room: Help me take on that turd Joe Scarborough

[moggie12]

That a**hole Joe Scarborough is at it again, spewing lies faster than "W" can take credit for inventing democracy.

This time he dumped a load of garbage on Wesley Clark, out-and-out LYING about Clark’s views on the Iraqi election.

Then Scar-butt posted a bunch of vile garbage on his MSNBC blog, accusing Democrats “like Ted Kennedy, Madeline Albright and Wesley Clark”, of “comforting the terrorists”. Link to his MSNBC blog:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6330851

Please e-mail Scar-butt and demand that he issue an on-air apology to Wesley Clark and retract the accusations he made against Democrats on his blog entry ([e-mail] , also please send a e-mail to the main msnbc e-mail: [e-mail]).

This is a link to a post by a DUer who caught Scar-butt red-handed in malicious lies about what Clark said – it will make your blood boil and give you all the facts you need. Several people replying to the post already said they'd send e-mails:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x1545023

I’m going to respond to my own post with the e-mail I sent to MSNBC. As you’ll see, I kept my tone somewhat civil (using enormous self-restraint): Calling Scar-butt names and cursing at him will just get your e-mails ignored. When stations get 100 or so reasonable-sounding e-mails all on the same subject, they’re more likely to pay attention.

Two weeks ago, I asked DUers to send e-mails to the media in support of Barbara Boxer: 40 or 50 DUers sent letters. I hope you’ll take the time to send some again (and maybe get your friends and family and people on other web-sites to do it, too).

Thanks……….please kick this post if you think this is worthwhile, and let me you any comments/suggestions you have….

[moggie12]

1. Example of an e-mail

This is what I wrote:


"Joe Scarborough owes General Wesley Clark an apology for misrepresenting his views regarding the election in Iraq. As can clearly be seen from the transcripts of Clark’s January 24th appearance on the show, General Clark stated numerous times that he thought the elections were a positive step. He was repeatedly badgered by Joe Scarborough, who persisted in trying to twist his words around and make it seem Clark didn’t think it was good news.

Now just today (Jan 30th), Scarborough posted a completely vile piece on his MSNBC blog, totally and thoroughly misrepresenting Clark’s views. Outrageously, Scarborough dared say that General Clark was “comforting the terrorists”!!!

Is it the policy of MSNBC, and its parent company, General Electric, to broadcast and print outright LIES!!??

Further, I strenuously object to the entire content of Scarborough’s Jan 30th blog entry. Anyone who reads it would immediately see it as a partisan political attack on the Democrats. Many Republicans – John McCain, Chuck Hagel, and Brent Scowcroft among them – have criticized various aspects of President’s Bush Iraq policy. Pat Buchanan has advocated a withdrawal of our troops. Were any of these Republicans referenced in the blog entry? NO!

An on-air apology by Joe Scarborough should be immediately forthcoming. In addition, I believe Scarborough should write a blog entry correcting the factual errors that appear in his Jan 30th blog, apologizing to General Clark, and retracting his one-sided criticism of Democratic politicians.

I will be following this e-mail up with formal letters of protest to the following: 1) Joe Scarborough; 2) the public relations department at MSNBC, 3) Bob Wright, Chairman and CEO of NBCUniversal; and 4) Jeffrey Immelt, Chairman and CEO of GE.

One of GE’s core values is supposed to be “Integrity”. In my opinion, MSNBC’s tolerance of Joe Scarborough’s partisan political attacks – in this case based wholly on LIES and DISTORTIONS of the truth – makes a mockery of the word “integrity”."

[Just Me]

8. Wow, Moggie12!!! You are on fire!!!

Way to burn their asses!!!

:yourock:

[moggie12]

10. Bad enough we've got FOX, we gotta have this Fox wanna-be!

That piece of garbage he wrote was unbelievable. This means war!

[FrenchieCat]

17. Joe IS

not to be believed....just lookit those shifty eyes!

[EVDebs]

19. We need to see if Joe is a part of Operation Mockingbird where the CIA

pays 'reporters' and 'media' types to say and do what's on the script du jour.

See
http://www.prisonplanet.com/analysis_louise_01_03_03_mockingbird.html

or just google Operation Mockingbird and start reading. Another goodie is Carl Bernstein's "The CIA and The Media" from Rollingstone magazine back in Oct 1977. It needs updating !

[Kerrytravelers]

2. kick

:kick:

[Clark2008]

3. I did that yesterday, but I sent it to MSNBC viewer services

[e-mail]

Dear MSNBC:
In Joe Scarborough's latest column, he does a grave disservice to retired Gen. Wesley Clark. In fact, he takes his statements completely out of context to frame an invalid opinion about the Iraqi elections - and I think he should be made to apologize for it.
Scarborough writes, "Over the past week, Democrats like Ted Kennedy, Madeleine Albright, and Wesley Clark have done their best to downplay the importance of Sunday's Iraqi elections. Why would they make such absurd statements about a process that will bring democracy to a traumatized country for the first time in history? Why can they not put aside partisan politics for a few days to celebrate the fact that for the first time since they were installed by the Ottoman Empire in the 15th Century, the Sunni minority will no longer be able to oppress the other 80 percent if the Iraqi population? Why do they choose words that can only be seen as providing comfort to the terrorists who want to delay, undermine, and dismiss this historic election? For one simple reason: Because success in Iraq means validation of the president's foreign policy goals. And too many Democrats and editorial writers would rather see America humiliated abroad than see the President succeed at home."
What absolute garbage.
Scarborough is entitled to his own opinion, but it should be based in factual information.
First of all, I read the transcript with regards to Wesley Clark and I saw it live on Scarborough's show.
On at least four separate occasions, Clark said he was happy with the news of the upcoming elections:

1. I think it‘s great news. And I—you know, we all welcome the
election. The question is what really happens after the election.
2. So, I‘m really happy with the good news. I hope it all works. I
just hope that we‘ll approach this with a little bit of caution,
because we‘ve got a long way to go in Iraq.
3. Well, I think it‘s great news, but you‘re not going to compare
Iraqi democracy with an American democracy, surely, Joe. I‘m not
going to do that.
4. I think an election is a great place to start, but what is end
state we‘re after.

Nowhere does Clark give an "absurd statement" about the process of voting. And, in no place did he provide comfort for terrorists. He simply considers voting a means to the end and not the end itself. It is wrong of Scarborough to misconstrue Clark's intentions and even more wrong for the right-wing press to allow him to get away with it.
Scarborough then goes onto say, "This is not easy for me to write." Then why did he? It's factually incorrect.
I won't take issue with his opinion, even though I think it's about as full of hot air as the Wizard of Oz's balloon, but he really should read his own transcripts before writing such lies (yes, he lied. Period).
I cannot attest to anything Kennedy and Albright have said, as I did not watch them give their statements, but, if Scarborough has so thoroughly confused and lied about Clark's statements, which I saw live, I can only imagine he's gotten Kennedy and Albright's statement all wrong, too. That's the problem with pundits who spin yarns - they become the talking head who cried wolf. I, for one, will never watch a liar like Scarborough again.

Sincerely,

[ClarkUSA]

4. Did this last week, but will do it again

[Disturbed]

5. I would love to witness a real...

debate between Clark and Hitchens.

[FreedomAngel82]

6. I don't even bother

anymore with them. I can't stand Scarborough. x( I say let them have their cake and then when it blows up in their faces they don't have us to blame.

[Tigress DEM]

23. Well, we sure wouldn't want to be to blame ...

For telling them the truth until they can't take it any more.

But it isn't about them. It's about us speaking up.

Don't bother, what could you say except that "what you creeps reap, you will sow"

[Sparkly]

7. Thanks for this, moggie!

I'm still not sure what specifically he's citing re: Albright and Kennedy, and naturally he never quotes a single one of the "absurd statements" he rants about. So if anybody has a clue, let us know!

[moggie12]

9. Haven't been able to find out what Albright said (or when), but

somebody posted Kennedy's whole speech earlier today:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x1546295

[stillcool]

11. Joe Scarborough grosses me out .....

big time. I have never been able to stomach him. That being said, I have no problem emailing these jokers. Not that I think it will change anything, but if I do nothing.....well...I do nothing.


I believe an apology is in order post-haste, from one of your most vacuous commentators-Joe Scarborough, in reference to his attack of Wesley Clark. His venomous spin of late is disgraceful. I don't presume to understand how you can reconcile actions taken by your commentators against true patriots of this country. These ploys only affirm the irrelevance of the 'media', and will no-doubt hasten the inevitable. The only reason I write is that someone has to. Turned off MSNBC in Mass

[moggie12]

12. Thanks for helping (and that was a good e-mail your wrote) n't

[snippy]

13. Excellent work once again moggie12.

I sent a polite but critical email.

Off topic: How is the project coming?

[moggie12]

14. Thanks for sending an e-mail to Scarborough

The more MSNBC hears from people disgusted by Scarborough's garbage, the more likely it is they'll rethink their programming. If everyone really starts yelling about Scarborough, we might get him off the air one day, or at least tone him down. From what I read, Keith Olbermann and and Chris Matthews get higher ratings than Joe Scar-butt. Maybe they'll finally realize they're hurting their chances of attracting and retaining a "core audience" of intelligent viwers by sandwiching Joe Scar-butt in the middle of those other shows (Keith sounds more and more anti-Bush every day and Chris Matthews has been very critical lately of both Bush's Iraq policy and the looniness implicit in Bush's Inaugural speech.)

Unfortunately, I haven't been able to get too many DUers interested in my "take on the media whores" project. Only a couple of people said they'd write an e-mail to MSNBC. Oh well......

[loudsue]

15. From now on, when we write LTE's, we should mention Bush $$ to journalists

And ask the editors if these right wing spewing journalists are ALSO going to be found to have been taking money from the white house to push the bush administration, or berate the Democrats.

It's a question that should be asked, in light of all the $$ bush has been throwing at right wing pundits. We need to start FOIA's to find out how much $$, or how many "perks" some journalists are getting from the party faithful to spew these lies.

Hopefully, just the mention of the exposure of bush-paid journalists will make some of these shills start thinking twice before they spew their lies.

:kick::kick::kick:

[FrenchieCat]

16. Yes...I say! Let's take on those MediaWhores/Presstitutes!

When you need me, Moggie12, just call me, and I'll be there.

Boxer is my senator.....and I have sent oogles of emails to her and to others about her. I am so proud of this woman. I also sent letters to my local papers and some National publications about her "balls" and my support of "them".

[ProudToBeBlueInRhody]

18. Forget about it........

Joe Crapborough managed to escape a Condit-sized scandal with nary a scratch. He's a media golden boy.

[moggie12]

20. Oh, c'mon, let try frying his ass on this one

That butt-hole Bill O'Reilly was just forced into making an on-air apology to a radio commentator he had on his show. And that was on FOX, whose journalistic standards are ten times worse that MSNBC's.

What can it hurt? We make him apologize for smearing Clark, we keep sending e-mails whenever else he lies, then we do a big e-mail barrage asking why they hired a RWer who publicly admitted to an affair with an intern (who ended up dead in his field office). Maybe a bunch of us New Yorkers will spend a day distrubuting flyers in front of NBC headquarters this summer.

C'mon, dream big. Plus, he's not so golden. His ratings suck.

[Tigress DEM]

22. Those are the ones we need to fry!

Media golden boy. Gets enough articulate responses against his point of view and someone will see Nielsen ratings.

Even the Star Tribune in Minneapolis got themselves and editor to respond to the out pour of responses about how partisan they are. Of course they still say both sides say that, but I think they at least realize what slippery ground they are on if they keep up the bushit.

[Tigress DEM]

21. Shoot - missed his "for or against us"

Here's my letter:


Joe,

You disappoint me. Your article about what Ted Kennedy and others are saying about the war in Iraq almost makes me believe you didn't even read Ted's speech, but are just spouting off.

Ted was talking about using these elections as a point in handing the Iraqis their country back, for better or worse. Ted is saying what everyone with a lick of common sense knows, when you occupy a country by military force you wear out your welcome, period.

A lot of soldiers died and a lot of people worked to make sure no war like Vietnam ever took place again, yet it seems this administration can't see that forcing a country into Democracy isn't the American way.

As far as your part about Clinton --- who are you kidding?
"It goes without saying that were this an effort promoted during the Clinton Administration, press coverage would be almost universally positive and President Clinton would be up for a Nobel Peace Prize."

When has any administration defied the Geneva Conventions by authorizing torture and gotten all the lay down and worship the ground he walks on support that Bush does?

Clinton went to war as a response to a valid threat and withdrew after the point was made. He didn't set up indefinate detainee prisons to hold people without clear and definate cause. He didn't go out and try to build a nation against a clear message of "Yankee go home."

Whatever you are smoking, seriously, think of cutting down or quitting entirely. It's affecting your judgement.

MN DEM