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stevedeshazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 06:13 PM
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Republican lurkers: Proof that your own party thinks you're stupid
Edited on Mon Jan-31-05 06:14 PM by Steve_DeShazer
http://www.rawstory.com/images/pdfs/rawstory_socialsecurity.pdf

From pg. 6.

"Keep the numbers small: Your audience doesn't know how trillions and billions differ. They know these numbers are large, but not how large nor how many billions make make a trillion. Boil numbers down to "your family's share." Also avoid percentages; your audience will try to calculate them in their head - no easy task while listening to a speech - and many will do it incorrectly."

REPUBLICANS THINK YOU ARE STUPID.

Don't prove them right.
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theresistance Donating Member (595 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 06:14 PM
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1. Just to clarify, where is this from?
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stevedeshazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 06:15 PM
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3. Added link on edit
The Republican talking points on Social Security leaked today.
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DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 06:14 PM
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2. Republicans I know understand counting digits, when they run out...
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me b zola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 10:29 PM
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39. ROTFL eom
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moggie12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 06:19 PM
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4. Wow, that's political dynamite -- hope that hits the TV news
It's the Republican play book on how to sell SS "reform" to the dummies. Wait til the "dummies" hear the Repubs think they don't know the difference between millions and billions!!
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kuozzman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 06:26 PM
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5. This should be on all TV news shows now. It's on none.
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snippy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 08:16 PM
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25. Agreed. Democrats need to get it on. n/t
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kuozzman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 10:19 PM
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38. I get the feeling they aren't really against privatization.
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stevedeshazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 11:14 PM
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42. You're off message
You can't say that P word. The word is "personalization."

Plaese make a note of it! :)
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 11:17 PM
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43. I thought the word was "piratize"
:shrug: It works for me!
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stevedeshazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 09:08 AM
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47. "piratize" it is!
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 10:19 AM
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50. "Piratize"
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gizmo1979 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 06:28 PM
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6. That's funny
Trillion and billion?Hell they don't know the difference between 10 and 20.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 06:28 PM
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7. Bushies COUNT on their supporters being dumb. During the campaign they
kept repeating that baloney about Kerry flipflopping on the 87 billion.

They counted on their audiences' ignorance of the legislative voting process.

Kerry voted FOR a bill WITH accountability to make certain the dollars were going into military armor and military needs.

He voted AGAINST the bill with NO accountability, just Bush/Pentagon discretion.

Now, about that 9 BILLION MISSING DOLLARS.........

Sorry, but Bush supporters ARE dumb. Bush knows it and manipulates the hell out of them. The entire GOP counts on their stupidity. Without it, they would have fewer votes than LaRouche.
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stevedeshazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 07:46 PM
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20. You've helped make my case
Thanks.

AND, if we could move on to the missing $9 Billion...

Aw crap, do I have to explain the million-billion-trillion thing again?
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 08:25 PM
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30. Exactly
That's all they do is repeat things until it's hammered into people's heads. One Sunday morning at church in the college class one of my best friends asked me who I was voting for. I proudly said Kerry and she was like "he's flipflopper." Of course I defended him and just rolled my eyes. They're all Bush freaks. :eyes:
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 06:32 PM
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8. Of course they're Stupid
They Thought Mr. "It's Hard Work" and "Wanna Buy Some Wood" deserved a second term.

How dumb do you have to be to buy that particular box of Ding-Dongs?
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DalvaThree Donating Member (104 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 06:34 PM
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9. repigs don't care - they know they're stupid
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Toots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 10:42 AM
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51. Not only know it but damn proud of the fact
They are quite happy to have a leader so dumb they can understand him. It's them damn intellectuals that are the problem. Ignorance is bliss and republicans are blissful people.
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Carolab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 06:41 PM
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10. Look at the "authors": PRYCE and SANTORUM. Whooda thunk? n/t
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 06:42 PM
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11. And this morsel from pg 7:
"People don't appreciate all that Social Security does."

Um, as far as I'm aware, the only people who don't appreciate what SocSec does is head-up-their-butts Republicans. Even sensible Republicans know it's a smashing government success story.

Oh, yeah, I need to clean my keyboard now, too.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 06:45 PM
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12. This is PRICELESS. They all but admit they are LYING.
Edited on Mon Jan-31-05 06:49 PM by blondeatlast
This is the funniest read I've had since the last Hiaasen novel!

Edit: Nominated for the homepage, and keep this kicked!
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seito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 06:52 PM
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13. Beautiful
I look forward to many more leaks in the future :evilgrin:

BTW, Republicans think we are ALL stupid. I think they misunderestimate too much.
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Contrary1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 06:56 PM
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14. And they have several pages of Bill Clinton quotes...
to try to persuade the Democrats.
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Donailin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 07:13 PM
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19. dispicable.
And I was relatively calm today. I never cease to be amazed at how low they will go.
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 06:59 PM
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15. Well, DUH
Ever see a Freeper protest?

5 portapotties to one freeper.

Wonder what they do when they run out of fingers and toes?
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Karmadillo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 06:59 PM
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16. As usual, the Republican Party is dead wrong. Their followers may be
ignorant, but they aren't stupid. They grew up going to crap schools and from their earliest years, have been subjected to a harsh, fundamentalist Christianity. That's a heavy burden for anyone to bear. They deserve our compassion, not our insults. If we Democrats did a better job of fighting for what this country truly needs (instead of almost always drifting to the center in search of corporate money and corporate media "respect"), we'd find a lot of "stupid" Republicans standing with us.
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Donailin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 10:14 PM
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37. ya see? now there's where you're wrong
and right, all at once. No they're not stupid, but what they are is brainwashed into hating the opposition because the opposition rejects the man they adore.
Face it, they voted for Bush again. Cut off their noses in spite of their face. But not because they thought through the issues. Look at what Mark McKinnon told Ron Suskind last year wrt Bush:

''You think he's an idiot, don't you?'' I said, no, I didn't. ''No, you do, all of you do, up and down the West Coast, the East Coast, a few blocks in southern Manhattan called Wall Street. Let me clue you in. We don't care. You see, you're outnumbered 2 to 1 by folks in the big, wide middle of America, busy working people who don't read The New York Times or Washington Post or The L.A. Times. And you know what they like? They like the way he walks and the way he points, the way he exudes confidence. They have faith in him. And when you attack him for his malaprops, his jumbled syntax, it's good for us. Because you know what those folks don't like? They don't like you!''

(http://www.internetvetsfortruth.org/article-withoutadoubt.html)

Karl Rove did his job well, and it is quite brilliant and hardly accidental. He polarized his base by appealing to their primitive reptillian brain, brainwashing them into thinking that intlellectual thought is the work of the enemy, and disguising sound debate and common sense as another intellectual argument designed to make Bush look like a fool. Bush is an ordinary guy, not incredibly educated and hardly sophisticated, and they identify with that. But instead of opposing the democratic platform based on the merits of their alternative, he paints the democratic platform as though it's for the intellectual elitists, a group in which they do not belong. Which is a total lie, of course. The dems have traditionally been for the little guy, the "labor" party, the "we're all in this together" party, wheras the republican platform has completely morphed into the "every man for himself" party. But they don't see it that way. For them, it's the college grads against the common laborer. Anything we say against Bush, his party, his nominees, his policies falls on deaf ears, all they hear is, "You think he's stupid, well we don't like you!"

Insidiousness in the nth degree.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 07:00 PM
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17. Send the article to your local paper.
.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 07:00 PM
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18. Somebody make sure to get a hard copy; I predict it'll get pulled.
I'm out of ink or I would.

They are gonna rue the day, I suspect.
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 11:24 PM
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44. I printed out some hard copies and saved it to my hard drive
should you need it, that is, if it mysteriously disappears, ummm, if someone doesn't like the fact that we have their "play book".
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stevedeshazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 07:53 PM
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21. I notice that one single right winger has posted on this thread
Not one.

Is that all you guys have?
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 09:02 PM
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33. Kinda sad, really. Guess they figure the talking points have
already been heard, ya know?

:evilgrin:
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Cats Against Frist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 08:03 PM
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22. HHHHHooooolly Shite
Well we here at Democratic Underground have been saying for some time that the freepers are tools of their right-wing intellectual propaganda masters, who feel like they should have to tell "noble lies" to the freeptards, to get them to do their bidding.

And the freepers feel bad, because they think WE think they're stupid. This, however is nothing compared to how stupid their own whoremasters think they are.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 08:04 PM
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Blue-Jay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 08:15 PM
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24. That's dirty, Sanchez.
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TheWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 08:17 PM
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26. That's all you have to say?
Assuming you are not being sarcastic, that's all you have?

A pathetic attempt at name calling.

Then again, why should I be surprised? When faced with the facts, that's what you people do. Foam at the mouth, name call, and basically shout down the truth, because you can't handle it.

The sad thing is, YOU people are getting screwed with everyone else. Don't you care? Do you people care about ANYTHING? Do you stand for ANYTHING?

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Berserker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 08:22 PM
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28. Nope they are like a
wind up toy all you get to hear is the shit thats programmed into them from birth.
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me b zola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 10:59 PM
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40. Yep, but within a couple of days
Edited on Mon Jan-31-05 11:43 PM by me b zola
they will all receive their programed response from the *Big Head*, aka KKKarl. Soon they will all be spewing some infantile, mindless response that have no basis in reality, and won't even make sense. It's a predictable pattern.

on edit: spelling
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CoffeeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 11:55 PM
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46. So true...
Edited on Mon Jan-31-05 11:57 PM by TwoSparkles
I've never seen a bigger group of pansy-ass lemmings--as the Bush followers.

Bush tells them his stance on an issue and they suddenly become vociferous experts--towing the political line for junior.

It's extraordinary how BushCo can recruit so many people to be willing accomplices of their own destruction.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 08:31 PM
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31. Isn't it funny?
It's like when Kennedy said to start working on pulling out the troops and they called him name's and all that bull and then someone from the right said the same thing and got praised. :silly: :wtf: Just look at Bush's campaign. All it was was 9/11 and smearing.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 09:05 PM
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35. Don't waste your breath; he can't hear you where he is now... nt
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snippy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 08:20 PM
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27. Evidently republicans are as stupid as their leaders think.
Edited on Mon Jan-31-05 08:22 PM by snippy
And like Bush himself, his followers have no honor or integrity, as post 23 clearly proves.
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stevedeshazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 09:37 PM
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36. Better luck next time
:)
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Fringe3000 Donating Member (8 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 08:23 PM
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29. lurkers
1 Trillon = 3333.00 for 300 Million people.
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flaminbats Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 09:26 AM
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49. is that alot or just a hell of a bunch?
:crazy:
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sendero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 08:40 PM
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32. And people get mad at me..
Edited on Mon Jan-31-05 08:41 PM by sendero
... for saying these people are stupid. They're stupid. They, and the religious freaks, are getting played every day by the Dim Son.

When it all comes crashing down, which it will, I'm gonna point and laugh.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 09:03 PM
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34. I hate to say it, but
so will I.
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iwantmycountryback Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 11:09 PM
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41. Practically ballgame.
Nice to see Santorum is gooo for something. :D
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me b zola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 11:39 PM
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45. "Communicating Social Security Reform" pgs 6-8
It sound like the talking points that salesmen are taught who sell time shares in Vegas.

It is beyond believable
Who are these people
Leading the sheeple


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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 09:23 AM
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48. Putting it into perspective: "A Billion is One Thousand Million"
http://www.venusproject.com/ecs/a_billion.html

A Billion Is One Thousand Million

To count out one (1,000,000) Million nonstop without sleep or eating it would take two and half (2-1/2) weeks.

To count out one (1,000,000,000) Billion nonstop without sleep or eating it would take thirty-eight and half (38-1/2) years.

Since a Billion is a difficult number to comprehend, so I thought putting that figure into perspective in one of its releases:

A Billion (1,000,000,000) Seconds Ago - It Was 1959.

A Billion Three Hundred Million (1,314,000,000) Minutes Ago ­ Persian Emperor Kourosh The Great, Wrote The First Charter Of Human Rights 2500 Years Ago.

A Billion (1,000,000,000) Hours Ago - Our Ancestors Were Living In The Stone Age.

A Billion (1,000,000,000) Dollars Ago - Was Only 8 Hours & 20 Minutes, At The Rate Washington Spends Our Money.

A Trillion (1,000,000,000,000) is one thousand billion.

______________

Mind boggling!


 
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