It's already started, Kerry's Woes are soon to begin.....

[deminflorida]

The electibility curse will now fall on John Kerry.

http://www.usvetdsp.com/jf_kerry.htm

Vietnam Veterans Against John Kerry, it's under construction...

[liberalnurse]

1. It will be refreshing to see the truth being told.....

Kerry and his Bonesman buddies are bad news for my children.

From the looks of things, the fact-photo's speak well of the real Kerry.....

[meegbear]

19. Fact-photo's

Like this one ...



As a youth, Kerry is said to have idolized John F Kennedy, with whom he and his family socialized. Kerry, who often alluded to having the same initials as President Kennedy, is pictured on the left sailing with the President.

All Democrats HATE John F. Kennedy. Where does this guy get off?

[Hamlette]

29. Does this site make you dislike Kerry?

His opposition to the war in Vietnam is well known. It's what I like best about him.

For those of us who protested the war we were thankful for the vets who opposed it. It seemed at the time like it was the turning of the tide for the anti war groups. We were pretty marginalized and the vets got lots of attention in the media.

It also gave us more respect for the military who before then we'd seen as puppets of the government. Here were soilders who dared to speak out.

[deminflorida]

45. No, I like John Kerry...but they're after him now....

You'd better believe it, and is this the type of baggage we want going into the general election?

I thought the whole idea was to put a War Hero, unblimished against Bush in the debates?

I thought the whole idea of liking John Kerry was because he was electible, and would bring over lots to pissed off veteran votes.

Do you really think alot of Vets are going to break for a guy who they are saying was associated with Jane Fonda....

Come 'on....

[bigtree]

61. Our party

never rejected Jane Fonda. Or portrayed her as a traitor. Opposition to the Vietnam war is a solid Democratic legacy, notwithstanding Jane Fonda's conduct in opposing that war. I for one did not let their assault on her detract from my efforts to end that war and neither should we let any association John Kerry may have had with her blemish his anti-war efforts.

BTW the association was just alleged on the site. Not proven. Not documented.

[kerrygoddess]

77. Talk about baggage

How about the charges against Clark for Kosovo?

If this was a concern to you you would not have posted this. You're a Clark supporter and have posted this to stir up trouble.

Kerry has the Vet's vote and the Vet's backing that's one of the reasons he won Iowa!

Sleazy, cheesy and tacky to post this. Looks like you're worried about Clark's electablity...

Where's Clark's domestic policy experience? How many elections has he won? How do you feel about Clark being a lobbyist?

I'm pro-choice but Clark's stance on abortion is just plain wrong!

[dreissig]

101. The Vets' Vote

Kerry may lose the vets' vote from two directions. He's by no means guaranteed to be popular among Vietnam veterans, who are not a voting bloc. He also voted to invade Iraq, losing the support of the antiwar Left. There are people like myself who will never vote for Kerry.

[kerrygoddess]

102. Kerry's support for veteran's right

Are you a Vet?

A New Compact with America's Veterans
This nation made a sacred covenant with those it drafted and those who enlisted, but the truth is that every day in America the treatment of too many veterans is breaking that covenant. So for John Kerry, the fight continues. He will deliver the health care and prescription drugs that veterans need. He will grant full concurrent receipt to disabled veterans and fairly compensate soldiers and their families for their valiant service. For John Kerry, this is about keeping America’s promise. It is about national obligation. And it is about love of country and the help and honor we owe to those who defend it.

Provide Mandatory Funding of Veterans Health Care
The Bush Administration chronically under-funds VA health care. There are nearly 90,000 veterans waiting for healthcare appointments. Instead of adding sufficient resources to a system desperately in need of them, President Bush has frozen whole classes out of the VA system. By the Bush Administration’s own estimate, their policies will exclude approximately 500,000 veterans from the VA healthcare system by 2005. President Bush also proposed increasing fees and co-payments in an effort to shift the burden for care onto the backs of veterans and drive an additional million veterans from the system. John Kerry will end the game of playing politics with funding for veterans health care. He will insist on mandatory funding for veterans health care. In a Kerry Administration, veterans will get the appointments they need with VA doctors and the federal government will invest the resources necessary to make sure that no veteran has an unmet health care need.


Do Not Overstretch the Military
George Bush Has Overstretched the U.S. Military. The Bush administration has compensated by using the National Guard and Reserve and more than 154,000 are on active duty. Reservists are overburdened and many may leave the military in large numbers because they can no longer make military service compatible with their lives.
John Kerry Will Reduce the Strain on the Military. He has called for a temporary increase of about 40,000 active-duty Army troops. This increase would be temporary but likely last the remainder of the decade. About 20,000 of the troops would be in such specialties as military police and civil affairs which are currently predominantly found in the reserves. The other 20,000 would be combat troops. Kerry’s proposal will be budget neutral because he will streamline some large weapons programs, putting more emphasis on electronics and advanced sensors and munitions and by reducing the total amount of money spent on missile defense.

Make the Veterans Administration Responsive
Under George Bush, 280,000 veterans await their disability rating. In addition, some 108,000 other veterans are waiting to hear back on appeals of rating decisions. John Kerry will streamline the VA so that veterans hear back about their status and receive benefits they are eligible for in a timely manner, supporting legislation, appropriations, and other steps as needed so that such decisions are made promptly and fairly.

http://www.johnkerry.com/issues/veterans/

[The Magistrate]

104. Do You Suppose, Mr. Dreissig

The "anti-war left" is made up of veterans? Otherwise, you have only given above one direction from which Sen. Kerry might find difficulty with veterans.

Of course, a very large percentage of those in Iowa who described themselves as "anti-war" voted for Sen. Kerry. Doubtless these people are not, properly speaking, in your view, part of the "anti-war left"?

Most people, even most people who opposed the invasion of Iraq, understand that was the policy and responsibility of the Republican administration of the criminals of the '00 Coup, and of no one else, and that the best way to register objection to that action is to hurl from office those reactionary reptiles. They understand, too, that to succeed in this effort, the candidate chosen must be able to appeal to a broad cross-section of the country, or the election cannot be won in the fall.

"LET'S GO GET THOSE BUSH BASTARDS!"

[patricia92243]

2. He has had recent cancer - he cannot win!

[Walt Starr]

4. Yep, everything comes out now

Kerry is unelectable. Time to move on to the next vic...er...potential candidate.

I still think Corporate wants Edwards. Fresh faces sell soap.

[lancdem]

7. I disagree

We have several electable candidates, and 2004 will be a close election.

[PROGRESSIVE1]

12. Kerry is unelectable??? How about "Dean is unelectable"???

The Dean camp has such a problem with the military! Why???

:eyes:

[Walt Starr]

25. That's last week's news

Time to move on to this week's news. Kerry the waffler is unelectable. He can't win. He's waffled over his position on the IWR, had cancer recently (big problem with the electorate as a live Bush is better than a potential cancer patient), and he supported North Vietnam (don't believe me? check out the Vietnam Vets Against Kerry).

Prepare for a piling on that will make the Dean pile-oin look tame by comparison. If you know any Wes Clark fans, you might tell them to watch out, he's dropped to being plan "C" since Iowa as they don't need him to take out Dean any more. Edwards moves up to plan "B" if the pile-on Kerry stuff pans out.

[PROGRESSIVE1]

33. We can also argue that Howard Dean's....

bad temper shows how "unstable" he is.

[Walt Starr]

42. Last week's news

He's been declared dead. Don't believe me, watch CNN.

Kerry is this week's pile-on and it's going to be fun for this Dean supporter to watch the Kerry supporters go through every agonizing moment of it.

But don't fret, as I've been told time and again, this is just politics. No harm no foul.

[kerrygoddess]

106. might get too close to the button

Dean might pop-off and get too close to the nuke button in a rage

[kerrygoddess]

105. Ain't that special

Proud of yourself aren't you?

[dweller]

36. Soap

to remove the grease from palms of hands.
yes.
dp

[kerrygoddess]

103. THAT'S ABSURD!

Kerry's cancer was cured.

Are you simply uninformed and know nothing about cancer? Evidently so, or you would not have posted this rude comment!

[Walt Starr]

112. What's a good time figure on cancer remission?

Tsongas had cancer before his 1992 run and I remember it being a HUGE issue. I also recall he had a relapse and died of cancer well before his first term would have ended had he been elected.

[bigtree]

119. In prostate surgery 5 year survival rates are about 66%

I pray for the continued health of Sen. Kerry, Norman Schwarzkopf, Bob Dole, Don Nelson, coach of the Dallas Mavericks, Marv Levy, four-time Super Bowl coach, Billy Davis Jr., of the Fifth Dimension, Robert Goulet, actor, Marion Barry, Rudolph Giuliani, Intel CEO Andy Grove, Sam Donaldson, Joe Torre, and others.

[NewYorkerfromMass]

120. Kerry's was caught very very early.

he's fine.

[kerryistheanswer]

3. This is right-wing crap

It won't work. These same people will attack Clark about his personality problem and recent switch in party loyalty.

They're ruthless. It won't stick though.

[liberalnurse]

8. I had my doubts about Kerry but had kept my options open...

I am convinced he is not the one..... He plays poorly with others and is too self-centered with his ego. He does not represent the American people, but himself....America desparately need a leader...

[Snivi Yllom]

76. too much double talk

I want someone who will be straight forward and accountable for past votes.

[cindyw]

97. Yeah right. Kept options open.

I have a good memory.

[Lefta Dissenter]

9. You're right,

All of the candidates will be subjected to a lot of crap being flung at them - and it will only get worse as the number of candidates gets trimmed down.

I'm interested in seeing how they handle the attacks. Do they leap into the gutter with those who are flinging poo? Do they get nasty and defensive? Do they maintain the high road? Do they offer their best explanation for what is being distorted and move on? THAT'S what I'm watching, and it has sure helped me to form my assessments of the various candidates.

[Nazgul35]

18. Kerry didn't handle it too well the first time...

you guys remember...when he was the annointed front funner?!

Or has everyone here forgotten that his campaign has already imploded once....what do you think is going to happen the second time around?

[indigo32]

89. Sadly while I have my opinions about which of these is the best way

"I'm interested in seeing how they handle the attacks. Do they leap into the gutter with those who are flinging poo? Do they get nasty and defensive? Do they maintain the high road? Do they offer their best explanation for what is being distorted and move on? THAT'S what I'm watching, and it has sure helped me to form my assessments of the various candidates."

the high road is called the high road for a reason.... unfortunately we don't have the media on our side so really are at a loss to pull most of these responses off. Sigh... I'm sorry I'm getting really depressed about all this as hard as I try not too. It's far too early.

[Walt Starr]

31. Welcomne to politics

as many are fond of telling me.

[JVS]

80. Sure it will stick. They'll report that it is sticking and then it will.

Enjoy the ride.

[Monte Carlo]

5. In the end, Kerry still has the Silver Star...

... so people like this can continue to rant and rave and scream bloody murder and marginalize themselves as much as they want.

[creativelcro]

14. I'm confused, now a silver star amulet is going to help him ? Bizarre...

[Monte Carlo]

24. It might shield him from 'unpatriotic' labels, yes.

Like when Tom DeLay tried to pin that label on him shortly after 9/11 for daring to question Bush's handling of the Afganistan war, and was quickly silenced by the veteran Kerry.

[JVS]

84. You would think that with protection like that he wouldn't have needed...

to support the Patriot act that he now opposes.

[stopbush]

49. Two words - Max Cleland n/t

[The Magistrate]

71. Georgia, Sir

Is not the United States of America.

[Walt Starr]

73. Same tactic worked in Iowa

same ad, remove cleland, insert Dean.

They'll replay it. Kerry protested the Vietnam war, think there won't be pictures with Kerry in front of the North vietnamese flag?

It's all pile-on Kerry all the time for the next few days, but don't worry.

That's politics. No harm, no foul.

[bigtree]

74. McCain and Kerry

did good work in Vietnam recently.

Your replay of the war is last decade's news. Good luck with that tactic, though.

[Walt Starr]

88. I'm not replaying a thing

I'm prediciting things to come.

Have you seen the vietnam Vetereans Against Kerry site yet? He who lives by the Vietnam Vet record can also die by it.

[bigtree]

114. A page that disparages the anti-war efforts of John Kerry

is akin to right wing bullshit about protesters being treasonous. Good luck with that, though.

[The Magistrate]

75. Gov. Dean, Mr. Starr

Is not a decorated veteran of the conflict, and Iowa is not Georgia.

The thing does not bother me in the slightest; it ought to rather clear Sen. Kerry's left flank in the primaries and even in the general election, it seems to me.

"LET'S GO GET THOSE BUSH BASTARDS!"

[Walt Starr]

90. Don't let it bother you

But I'll bookmark this thread and make sure I link to it when the inevitable happens.

If Kerry's campaign survives teh week, that is. An hour over the next week is an eternity to a campaign.

[The Magistrate]

93. Very Little Bothers Me, My Friend

You are well aware of those few things that do....

[Walt Starr]

95. Oh and about Governor Dean

Unless you're talking about the speech, everything else is soooo last week.

Today is about the end of the ride on the speech thing, too. Some may try and squeeze one more day with about a ten second bite, but that will be pushing it.

As the title of this thread sucggests, Kerry's woes have just begun.

[The Magistrate]

98. Surely, Mr. Starr

You are not accusing me of being much confined by what is au courant?

"I was not born with learning, but being fond of antiquity, am quick to seek it."

[JVS]

87. America loves its Vietnam veterans!

Never has America stood by and watched Vietnam veterans be discriminated against by employers or become homeless in large numbers.

[PROGRESSIVE1]

6. The Reich Wing is at it again! This is a shamful smearing of....

John Kerry. He served his country honorably. This site must be run by Free Republic!

:puke:

[creativelcro]

11. We all serve our country honorably.

Construction workers have a very high risk of getting severely injured on the job, for example. Saying that soldiers serve more honorably than anybody else who's doing his/her job is dishonest...

[bigtree]

64. Yeah, I saw the news last night

You know. The stories about construction workers getting blown apart by roadside bombs and snipers. And the high rate of construction related suicides. :eyes:

[liberalnurse]

15. I want to know the facts ......Free posting

democrats want to know too. Don't blame the right for every little post that does not flatter your candidate.

I can handle the truth.

[liberalnurse]

34. My Viet Nam friends who also have Purple Hearts

do not hang their medals out to use as bragging points ....

[bigtree]

44. John Kerry showed fortitude and conviction

when he threw his ribbons back at Nixon.

[liberalnurse]

47. It was for show.......thats drama we can see from a "B" movie

any day of the week. It got him mileage but he is an empty suit at this point. He is using the medals as props. What a real disgrace.

[bigtree]

67. SHOW!

A decorated officer with no promise of a political boost. Remember, this was a conservative era, no matter what rebellion was occurring on the fringes. Anyone who stood up was pummled by their neighbors, by the establishment, and by the government. It took some courage to be an anti-war activist. There wasn't a safe zone for such protests. They were viewed by many as treason. Medals that are be used at props are not normally flung back at the White House. Even so, what prop did he intend? An anti-war prop! Most of us who opposed the war were extremely grateful for any support they could get from soldiers and veterans, They didn't question motives. They were grateful for their courageous support from soldiers who would almost certainly be ostracized by some of their military peers for their outspokenness. Without soldiers like John Kerry, we would not have made such a strong case against that war. I am extremely grateful for John Kerry's service and for his activism to end that unjust war. The attacks on his service and on his efforts in protesting that war are the disgrace here.

[The Magistrate]

72. Your Point Escapes Me, Ma'am

Are you maintaining Sen. Kerry was wrong to oppose the war in Viet Nam when he did?

Are you maintaining he was wrong to oppose it in a way calculated to gain maximum impact for his opposition?

Are you maintaining he did not really oppose the war in Viet Nam, but only pretended to do so for some nefarious purpose plotted by Skull and Bones?

Do you really think opposition to the war in Viet Nam, by a decorated veteran of that war, will turn the general electorate of the United States against him?

Surely the reactionary pretend veterans that litter such sites as the one cited here will never vote for anything but a Republican, if they lift their snouts off The Turner Diaries long enough to vote, anyway, and so their opposition can be readily discounted....

[JVS]

91. Didn't he keep those medals? I heard that he threw out other medals.

Besides that stuff is old news.

Kerry has not been very courageous since Bush became president.

[paulk]

85. Are your friends running for president?

John Kerry (and Wesley Clark's) medals are protection from right wing "patriotism" smears.

[bigtree]

10. So, some here will join a Republican assault on John Kerry's war record?

To post this cheap shit is a disgrace. Haven't you anything better to do than spread republican bullshit?

These tactics will backfire on any candidate or any supporter who would use republican horseshit to smear their own.

[LuminousX]

16. Where do you stand on the attacks against Dean?

I agree that fellow Democratic voters don't need to spread crap like this. It is okay to point out that it is there, but it needs to be denounced. Just like the crap they threw at Dean needed to be denounced instead of picked up and used in attack thread after attack thread....

[liberalnurse]

21. Maybe the message from the post

has identified the issues of disgrace....A silver-spoon, Bonesman does not fit well for me.....I want a leader to lead Americans, not a self-serving agenda. I want my leader to not expect me to vote for him because he believes he's paid dues and should be President.


I appreciate the web site.

[deminflorida]

22. Don't think it's Republican, I heard about it last night at my

American Legion meeting...

Watch who your saying is spreading republican bullshit buddy...

[bigtree]

39. This is pure republican bullshit

Protest is treason? Just what about John Kerry's service and his protest afterward do you object to? What Democratic principle do you stand on in criticixing his service and his subsequent protest? You have no leg to stand on in criticizing his service in Vietnam. Give it up. It's disgusting.

[kerrygoddess]

81. no Repubs in American Legion?

I don't think so!

[liberalnurse]

51. No way....but let the truth be our guide.

It has to do with the candidate himself. ....We need to know.

[LuminousX]

13. When they came for Dean, I didn't say a word, because I wasn't for Dean.

When they came for Kerry, I didn't say a word, because I wasn't for Kerry.

....

[Uzybone]

17. Sad but true

thats the attitude of many here on DU.

[Jerseycoa]

40. Oh my

:nopity:

[LuminousX]

50. Interesting sentiment

I guess you aren't much for party unity.

[Walt Starr]

83. When they came for Clark

there was nobody left to speak for me...

:D

:hi:

[kerrygoddess]

107. your vote is non-transferable

Guess you'll be voting for BUSH

[JVS]

96. I wonder if Clark will even get a chance to be put through the smears.

[bigtree]

55. "Before I built a wall I'd ask to know

What I was walling in or walling out"

Mending Wall, Robert Frost

[Walt Starr]

56. Nice analogy

It would seem some are beginning to get a small taste of what Dean supporters have experienced for many months.

[paulk]

92. much of the criticism

of Dean came from fellow Democrats, not some fruitloop right wing website.

Your argument is a strawman.

[Cuban_Liberal]

20. Dr. Dean can help you pick the buckshot out of your butt, Senator.

He has experience with it on 2 levels.

[Padraig18]

69. LOL!

Quite true! :P

[jpgray]

23. Yep, after a brief respite, the media will focus on him once again

And as Dean can tell you, that ain't always fun.

[DJcairo]

26. That is a right wing smear website.

You should be ashamed of posting it.

[deminflorida]

28. So now everybody that's a Vietnam Vet is Right Wing?

what's up with that?

[deminflorida]

35. They go after McCain Too....

http://www.usvetdsp.com/mccainpg.htm

You know, John McCain the Republican....


:crazy:

[sandnsea]

37. Everybody?

Man I know a couple of Vietnam Vets I'd like to turn loose in here. They're busy campaigning in New Hampshire though. Everybody? Where'd this poster say all Vietnam Vets are right wing? And why did you post this? Why would you want to help that small group of people that just can't get it through their heads that Vietnam was wrong?

[dreissig]

108. This Vietnam Vet

This Vietnam vet ... marched against Bush's proposed invasion of Iraq. John Kerry disappointed us when he voted for it. This Vietnam vet won't vote for John Kerry.

[sandnsea]

118. Kucinich earned your support

He was always for peaceful negotiations ONLY with Iraq and I respect anybody who supports that avenue. I disagree with it, but I respect it.

On edit:

Added only, as Kucinch did not agree with war or threat of force under any conditions whatosever in dealing with Iraq. That is the difference between anti-war from the start and the rest.

[kerrygoddess]

82. If you are Vet

You should be ashamed of yourself for posting this!

You only did it to stir up trouble and try to turn some towards Clark who is slidding in the NH polls!

[kerrygoddess]

78. Right On DJ!

[sangh0]

27. They will try to conflate John Kerry and Bob Kerrey

Be careful

[sandnsea]

30. Nothing new, Communist Pinko Sympathizer

There's always been a small group of pro-Vietnam War people who still think Vietnam is our Communist enemy. People who would rather kill others than work with them to peacefully create progress and change. It's the same "appeasers" group. He's been fighting it all his life and he's been winning the fight. No problem here if we stick by him.

[bigtree]

32. got a problem with this?

During Memorial Day weekend, he joined a throng of antiwar protesters on the green in Lexington, Mass., where he and hundreds of others were arrested.


"You see, this republican assault site is tailored for those who view his protest of the Vietnam war as treason. Not many here would agree with that assessment of his conduct after the war."

More from the page (stuff that the author views as treason):

Kerry organized one of the most confrontational protests of the entire Vietnam War called Operation Dewey Canyon III. It began April 18, 1971, with nearly 1,000 Vietnam vets gathered on the Washington, D.C., Mall for what they called "a limited incursion into the country of Congress."


On April 23, 1971, Kerry led members of VVAW in a protest during which they threw their medals and ribbons over a fence in front of the U.S. Capitol.


"We came here to undertake one last mission, to search out and destroy the last vestige of this barbaric war," Kerry told the cheering mass.


At a jammed Senate Foreign Relations Committee hearing on April 23, 1971, Kerry took his case to Congress. With television cameras lining the walls and Kerry dressed in his green fatigues decorated with his Silver Star and Purple Heart ribbons, he gave testimony that defined him and made possible his political career. In a style, reminiscent of John Kennedy, Kerry asked, "How do you ask a man to be the last man to die in Vietnam – How do you ask a man to be the last man to die for a mistake?"

[NewYorkerfromMass]

38. Not me. I love him. BRING IT ON!

[colonel odis]

41. republicans love democratic infighting

bush is the enemy. not dean vs. kerry vs. clark vs. edwards.

bush is whom we are all working to remove from office. period.

[Cocoa]

43. the Right Wing has been after Kerry since Nixon

when he came back and started opposing the war, they took notice of him immediately.

So "about to begin" isn't exactly right.

[NewYorkerfromMass]

52. absolutely. And Democrats old and young, and of every stripe will rally to

his defense.
Bring it on.
You attack John Kerry and you are attacking the core of our party- our liberalism, our progressive stands.

[dreissig]

109. Not Exactly the Core

Kerry disappointed the anti-war Left when he voted for the invasion of Iraq. This year may end up like 1968 when the Democrats nominated Hubert Humphrey, thinking that the anti-war Left could be ignored. They were wrong.

Don't say that the anti-war Left is unwelcome in the Democratic Party. That's what Mayor Daley said in 1968.

[NewYorkerfromMass]

111. a lot of anti-war are lining up behind Kerry

as proven in Iowa

[bigtree]

115. I marched against the war. Several times.

I have advocated against it in several different forums.

Nothing in the IWR vote mandated, encouraged, or forced Bush to push towards unilateral, preemptive invasion. The left is not a monolith. The left will benefit from his opposition to Bush's war.

[NewYorkerfromMass]

117. Thank You

Both for your activism and sensible reading of Kerry's actions.

[The Magistrate]

122. Honestly, Mr. Dreissig

What on earth leads you to suppose a narrow stripe of committed anti-war activists constitutes the core of the Democratic Party? That is balderdash, Sir. That is a vanishingly small constituency.

[BOSSHOG]

46. I'm a 24 Year Navy Veteran

I thought I served so that John Kerry could do the things he did posted on that website; so that we can chat about it on this website. Although Senator Kerry is not my number one candidate, that website only makes me respect him more. Did I miss something, or was there a listing of the websites authors and their credentials?

[deminflorida]

54. Your right....I'm a Navy Vet too....

I'm just pointing out that there will be a lot of heat on Kerry now that he's the front-runner. That's all,....I don't know what the hell the one guy is talking about all Vets being Right Wing...I know I'm not.

I like Kerry too, but he will take baggage with him into the general election. That's for sure....I'm trying to see how they're going to come at him and the Jane Fonda thing looks like the way they will spin it with Veterans, that's all.

[adadem]

57. Every candidate has baggage

I'd rather the Dems do the vetting than the pugs. That site is obviously by Republican veterans...from what I've seen here where I live the veterans are totally energized by John Kerry.

[zulchzulu]

60. If the Repugs want to bring military records into question...then...

Bring it on!

Kerry would love nothing more than Bush and Rove to bring up military records. That trap is being well set up, believe me.

It would be a fatal political mistake for Bush to even dare to do that.

[sandnsea]

66. He didn't say that

How can you interpret him saying all Vets are right wing by pointing out the right wing bias in one site? Why would you? Don't support Clark this way, he's a better man than that.

[zulchzulu]

48. It's under construction alright

It will be the vets that will complain about the medals during one of the protests. Yawn... this is old stale news. Kerry has enough support from vets to make this irrelevant.

Nice photos of Kerry though...Too bad they aren't given credit on the web site.

If the Repugs want to bring up military records, well all I can say is:

BRING IT ON!!!

[blm]

53. Big deal. They've been putting this propaganda out for over 30 years.

You people really think this is NEW for Kerry?

Nixon tapes have them plotting to ruin Kerry then and it has never stopped.

Scaife went after him LONG before Clinton.

BushInc. planted stories back when Kerry was exposing their corruption on BCCI and IranContra.

Why the heck do you think he survived what others could not? Because they have NOTHING on Kerry that's true. They have NOTHING on him to bring him down.

They've tried for over 30 years.

Get real, folks.

[adadem]

59. You're right on the mark, BLM

as always. Kerry has a tote bag compared to the baggage of many of the other candidates....heck bush has a semi-truck full.

[Capn Sunshine]

58. Kerry is the Bob Dole of the democratic Party

unelectable, but very capable of insider support.

[Walt Starr]

62. Isn't the term "sacrifical lamb"

:shrug:

[zulchzulu]

63. Grapes are sour these days, hhhmmmm...

[ACPS65]

65. Yeah, but who can blame them.

After the Dean implosion culminating with the "YEAAAAAAR!", they have to take the anger out on someone. Why not on the guy that beat them in every field in Iowa.

[adadem]

70. Really, really sour n/t

[bigtree]

68. like

Gore, Bradley, JJJ, Carter . . . :eyes:

[kerrygoddess]

79. who's got the insider supporter?

Mr "Congressman are Cockroaches" didn't turn down Al Gore!

[diamond14]

86. GREAT Kerry photos...look at these pics (and the writings)

Kerry regularly mentions his Vietnam War combat experience, during which he received three purple hearts, the Silver Star and Bronze Star.



"We came here to undertake one last mission, to search out and destroy the last vestige of this barbaric war," Kerry told the cheering mass.




On April 23, 1971, Kerry led members of VVAW in a protest during which they threw their medals and ribbons over a fence in front of the U.S. Capitol.



At a jammed Senate Foreign Relations Committee hearing on April 23, 1971, Kerry took his case to Congress. With television cameras lining the walls and Kerry dressed in his green fatigues decorated with his Silver Star and Purple Heart ribbons, he gave testimony that defined him and made possible his political career. In a style, reminiscent of John Kennedy, Kerry asked, "How do you ask a man to be the last man to die in Vietnam – How do you ask a man to be the last man to die for a mistake?"



During Memorial Day weekend, he joined a throng of antiwar protesters on the green in Lexington, Mass., where he and hundreds of others were arrested.


and in 2004....KERRY IS THE MAN !!!!!

Go Kerry.....show bush* what a REAL patriot can do...
http://www.JohnKerry.com

[IndianaGreen]

116. The Kerry in those pictures is not the Kerry that is running for President

The Kerry in those pictures, and in the one photo in which he appears with John Lennon, would have never voted for PATRIOT Act or for IWR.

So, don't ask me to vote for Kerry because he is not the same Kerry that appears in those pictures.

[cindyw]

94. Those who run this site, where is your shame?

Does this site argue that Kerry is unelectable? Does it argue that he will raise taxes, start a war or cut Social security? NO

It calls Kerry a communist sympathizer. I dare you to tell me that this is something we will allow Republicans to do to a fellow American.

When I see people make a suggestion that Dean's wife should quit her job for her man, it offends me as a woman.

We all here are outraged at what they did to Max Cleland. This should make you angry on it's face. We should be defending him, not promoting this site.

Now does this scare me? Absolutley not. Where are the "Vets" that this site claims to have. They should stand up to his face and call him a communist sympathizer. These right wing wackos don't scare me and they should not scare all of you.

If this is the best they have, we are in like flynn.

[dreissig]

99. In Like Flynn

Kerry voted for the invasion of Iraq, making him ineligible for my vote. Whatever he did 30 years ago isn't as important as what he did last year.

I'll never vote for the guy, he's a warmonger. As far as I'm concerned, he might just was well be a Republican.

[The Magistrate]

100. You Seem To Live In A World Of Republicans, Mr. Dreissig

Once the Sage wrote: Heaven and Earth between them beget ten thousand things!"

[dreissig]

110. Can You Explain This?

World of Republicans? What the Sage said? Give us a hint what you're aiming at, I can't be the only one in the dark here.

[sangh0]

113. Can't???

I would argue that it is entirely possible that you are the only one in the dark here.

[Woodstock]

121. I told everyone it wasn't just Dean they'd pick on

They are out to pick us Dems off one by one.

The more fools we are if we fall for it.

[i_am_not_john_galt]

123. Read the whole site - I didn't see anything really negative

He did his duty, got disillusioned with the war, came home and protested. Where's the problem?