Dean still has what his media critics who mock him lost long ago: a soul

[rumguy]

I hadn't watched cable news in a while. Last night I ventured back into that vultures nest, and was stunned by what I saw.

On Hardball Chris Mathews and his guests slobbered all over Bush's packed-to-the-gills-with-lies SOTU speech, while later laughing, smirking and mocking Howard Dean's firey speech in IA.

Well at least Dean believes in something! At least he has REAL, human passion! At least he doesn't hide under layers of artificiality like the goddamn media whores!

Dean still has a soul, thank god! He hasn't been hideously corrupted like Mathews and the rest, who pass judgments on those giving it their all, while they sit in their comfy chairs turning politics into politricks.

I'm an Edwards man mostly. But I still love Dean. And if he gets the nom I will fight like hell for him.

It should not be a crime in this country to show exuberant, genuine emotion. Dean didn't go "nuts" and he isn't "crazy". Those are the taunts of people who have nothing to gain and nothing to lose, because they fight for nothing, stand for nothing, and care not for the state of the world beyond their own small existences.

Dean is smart, passionate, and committed - and a true believer. I would trust him with this country because I know he genuinely cares about it, with both his head and his heart.

So fuck his critics, they only show their own true selves when they mock those with passion.

[reprehensor]

1. Hates him they do...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=109&topic_id=4483

[Guaranteed]

2. Yup...I remember that.

The media's afraid of him.

On edit: You know what, maybe he should call them on it during the debate. Force them to air why they're attacking him.

[Anwen]

3. I couldn't have said it better!

Don't even bother watching the jaded talking heads...

[shance]

4. Amen

to that***

[Jacobin]

5. One of my repuke, Bush worshipping partners is all a-twitter now

For months, he has been slinking around, nervous about the obvious Iraqnam disaster, economy, etc. All too plain to hide with Dean speaking out while others hid in a corner pretending all was well.

Now with the gumption of the talking heads giving RWers the talking point that Dean is crazed, he is all excited about Dean being "crazy" and peeing his pants that Smirky will be re-elected.

Absolutely disgusting the media in this country. Just gut wrenchingly appalling.

[rumguy]

6. yep, they love to label those with real feeling and passion "crazy"

it only shows their own twisted souls however....

[indigo32]

7. true

they are empty shells and nothing more.
:puke:

[Snivi Yllom]

8. it was the meanest media display ever

I have never seen such unprofessional and mean spirited comments as those MSNBC made after Dean's speech.

[SeattleRob]

9. good point

I think the next time there is a media call in show - like on CSpan - we should call in and aske the reporters if they remember the moment when they sold out their principles. I would love to ask that to a lot of the media folks because deep inside, I bet they remember the exact moment they did it.

[KissMyAsscroft]

10. You are right, my friend.

nt

[cthrumatrix]

11. kick for truth.....very well said.

[Blitz]

12. How many votes does his soul get?

Of course. Those who criticize Dean are soulless sub-humans. Why didn't I see it earlier. Damn you Jon Stewart!!!

[SeattleRob]

19. I am talking about the media....

They (the media) will attack whomever is the front runner and they will show no mercy. Wake up and check out mediawhoresonline.com or thedailyhowler.com. They document the lies and distortions. Look back at the 2000 election and look what they did to Al Gore!!! Tom Brokaw, Peter Jennings, Fox, CNN, NY Time, WA Post... it's propaganda that would make the old PRAVDA people blush. People in this country are so misinformed and uninformed about what is happening, yet they know every freaking detail about Michael Jackson and Lacy Peterson.

For example, last night I was watching a news program on Canadian Television (CBC - Real Journalism) and they were interviewing a US Soldier who deserted rather then going back to Iraq. They interviewed a Wife of a Soldier who said her husband tried to leave the service as he was scheduled to and the military wouldn't let him get out. She said she and other families are like in the "underground" (her words) because the US media won't listen to them or talk to them. I have to go to another countries news to find out what's going on in own country.

Please... Look around - do your own research and check out a variety of sources for your news. The media whoredom is our biggest problem and the sooner we wake up and see what is happening, the sooner we can make a positive change to America and the world!

[AntiCoup2K4]

24. Soulless sub humans??

Yeah, I would say that fits the corporate media, Rove, and the Determined to Lose (again) Club pretty well. But those are your words, not mine ;)

[blm]

13. Dean showed his character early attacking Kerry during his cancer surgery

and recovery period. That showed me what I needed to know about Dean's "soul" and his character as a so-called "Doctor" who was well aware that the recovery period should be as stress-free as possible. Especially since the patient had suffered recent losses of both parents.

Instead, the doctor chose THAT time to ramp up the attack.

[Frederic Bastiat]

14. Very true blm n/t

[FredScuttle]

18. Oh yeah, I remember the Dean mailer I got:

John Kerry - Wasting Away Before Our Eyes

(end sarcasm)

excuse me, but wasn't Kerry a candidate at the time? Fair game? Or should Dean not respond to attacks on him because the attacker was in the hospital? And did I miss where Dean caused the death of Kerry's parents?

Also, I do recall the gentle restraint Kerry and the others showed to Dean when he was picking up his late brother's remains.

Give me a break...this is the most important race any of these men will run and no one is going to give an inch, no matter what personal issues the candidates are enduring.

[blm]

21. Noone had attacked when Dean started. Not one responded to his attacks

on them for many weeks. If you have proof that Kerry attacked Dean first, please show it. I am quite certain that dean attacked first and it started on Jan.23, 2003, and he ramped it up while Kerry was down.

How do you think Dean made his name?

Rewind to last spring:


(full text at: http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2003-04-28-dem-words_x.htm)

WASHINGTON — The only Democratic presidential candidate to regularly whack his rivals got a taste of his own tactics Monday and didn't like it...

...Until now, the competition has been relatively harmonious, at least for public consumption, with the exception of Dean. His attacks on fellow Democrats have been so cutting that sometimes the Republican National Committee e-mails them to party members. "Gephardt Plan: 'Pie-In-The-Sky Radical Revamping' " was the headline on one last week, quoting Dean.

Sen. John Edwards of North Carolina and Rep. Richard Gephardt of Missouri have been Dean targets in recent weeks. But Dean has reserved his sharpest thrusts for Kerry, repeatedly accusing him of selling out Democratic principles. The two men are virtually tied for the lead in polls in New Hampshire, which holds the critically important first primary election...

... Dean's remarks underscore his off-the-cuff style. In March, he accused Edwards and Kerry of softening their support for the Iraq war when they spoke to a dovish California crowd. But in reality, both had referred to their support and gotten booed. Edwards was furious and received an apology from Dean. Kerry said he deserved one but didn't get it.

After Gephardt proposed last week to roll back President Bush's tax cuts to pay for a major expansion of health coverage, Dean blasted him for wanting to repeal "huge tax cuts" he said Gephardt had supported. But Gephardt led the fight against the tax cuts passed in 2001.
>>>>>>

[FredScuttle]

25. Fair enough

I can't confirm the chronology of attacks, so I'll grant your point and withdraw my claim that Dean was responding to being attacked.

OK, given that, I still don't see where Dean is such a monster for attacking Kerry on the issues last spring. After all, Kerry's own campaign said it would be a brief interruption to the campaign:

<snip>
"Every expectation is that this is a simple procedure and that John will be back at full speed within days," said Chris Lehane, a spokesman for Kerry.

http://www.cnn.com/2003/ALLPOLITICS/02/11/kerry.cancer.ap/

So how long was Kerry confined to his hospital bed while that terrible ogre Dean was conducting character assassination against him? I read he went home 3 days after surgery and got a clean bill of health two weeks later. Good for him...I'm thankful for him and his family that it was detected and treated in time. But, if he truly thought that his health was being threatened by the campaign, don't you think it would have been proper for him to withdraw?

It's analogous to a football team that trots out an injured player to compete. Yes, we're inspired by that player's courage and all, but the concept of competition would be mocked if the other team did not go after that player as they normally would.

[blm]

28. He was off the trail for almost a month.

But, the point is Dean's character, isn't it? None of the candidates had done ANY attacking at the time. Dean CHOSE that time to start the attacking.

He was a doctor. He knew. His research team must have also known that Kerry had recently lost his parents.

it looks like the REAL tough guy in this scenario is Kerry. He plugged away and did his work, and did not WHINE about it to reporters and to the DNC. He kept going. He did the heavy lifting. He won.

[newsjunkie]

15. very well said

Thanks

[candy331]

16. How sad that Democrats decimate and join the cheering

squad to crush one of their own. Zell Miller right now has more respect in my book and that is not saying much because at least he is not partial he dishes it out to all the same. When I was growing up we learned that family could speak and criticize each other but we were damned if we were going to let any outsider do it.

What will it look like in November if a Democrat doesn't win? The whole family(Democratic party) is going to be treated the same as Dean and even worse because they will have the repugs extreme gloating and taunts and the ire of the Democrats for losing. Spend some time thinking on this because if Dems don't win they may just have a whole lot of family members moving out and rightly so. If you think the repub gloating and chest thumping has been bad up till now you might not have seen nothing yet. A preview of this was seen in 2000, part2 was 2002, and mind you if 04 will not be showing part3. In a span of 4 years most of the family could be gone never to return.

Yes you say look what repubs did to McCain, and so forth and so on but I can assure you this want even be a comparison. You talk about moving to Canada or somewhere now but then you just might have to do it. Destroying your entire family to save none is really, really sad.

[killbotfactory]

17. Yep.

I watched CNN at my relatives house and was disgusted. I'm glad I don't have cable. 24-hour news networks are lobotomizing our political process.

[rumguy]

20. yep, all the cable networks were gloating in corporate soul-lessness

at Dean just trying to fire up his "troops" with some human emotion...

I'm sick of vieled phoniness....

[Mass_Liberal]

26. good god

your sig line is obnoxious. Might as well say Leiberman in 2004- he's only a bit lamer than a block of granite!

[killbotfactory]

27. It's a direct quote from a CNN pundit.

Analyzing Dean's "angry man" speech where he is smiling and laughing the whole time.

[Polemonium]

22. well said

He's the only one who shows the passion I feel, and that's why I'm still working on his campaign.

[quaker bill]

23. Thanks

I needed to hear that. I couldn't agree more.