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okieinpain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-04 04:18 PM
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I'm really frighten by all of the nobody but dean, or kerry, or whom
ever. this is the same stuff that got bush. I love dean and I really think that he is the only one with any fire that can beat bush. but I support and vote for whom ever the nom is, (holding nose) including lieberman.

but you guy's that are stuck on your candidate are really starting to freak me out. I'm hoping this is just a part of the grieving stage and that it will soon pass. god knows I really could not take another 4 years of the chimp*, man I would really hate to start smoking pot again, geez my kids already think I'm strange.
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sangh0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-04 04:19 PM
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1. I'm not worried
IMO, most of the posters are engaging in idle threats.
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-04 04:19 PM
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2. NBK?
Ive never met a Nobody But Kerry person.
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curse10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-04 04:21 PM
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4. I was just going to post the same thing John
If someone can find one I'd be surprised. Every Kerry supporter I know is ABB.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-04 04:22 PM
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7. Me either
I've been pretty disillusioned about Dean, but the Supreme Court trumps my dislike of him. And I'm still going with my DK primary vote, by the way.
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poskonig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-04 04:20 PM
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3. Cognitive dissonance maybe.
Some have contributed thousands of dollars and many hours to campaigns. Rather than admit efforts were unsuccessful, some would rather believe a conspiracy abounds, or that the people that beat them aren't really Democrats for whatever frivolous reasons.

Additionally, I suspect some are merely saying NB'x' to get a rise out of supporters they despise.
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-04 04:21 PM
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5. i don't know anyone who is nobody but kerry
if there is anyone on here i would like to speak to them as another kerry supporter and convince them it's the wrong side to be on.
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PROGRESSIVE1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-04 04:22 PM
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6. I am a Clark supporter, but I will support whoever the nomminee...
is!

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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-04 04:24 PM
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8. Huh? The only "nobody but..." folks I have seen are Dean's
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AndyTiedye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-04 07:09 PM
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20. I Only Saw One NBD post here
and that was the night of the Iowa caucus,
so he was probably in a bad mood.

We need to de-select Bush. To do that we need
to win by a landslide.

I hope that we will have Dean and his supporters
working toward that end, whether or not Dean is
the nominee.

Anybody but Bush!
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Democrats unite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-04 04:34 PM
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9. The only nobdoy but Supporters I have seen is from the Dean camp
Edited on Wed Jan-21-04 04:34 PM by Democrats unite
We can win without them though it's no big loss.
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EXE619K Donating Member (717 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-04 05:37 PM
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11. Hey! is this your....
Edited on Wed Jan-21-04 05:38 PM by EXE619K
resounding endorsement for:

1. George W. Bush (R)
2. John Kerry (D)
3. Howard Dean (I)
4. Ralph Nader (G)

Hmmmm.....your take on things are definately interesting.

I haven't thought about that one now......
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Q3JR4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-04 04:36 PM
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10. I was starting to wonder about the same thing.
I mean if the only people who vote ABB are those that haven't really supported a nominee up to this point, the Democratic party collectively is screwed.
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-04 05:48 PM
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12. I'm not grieving for Dean. I'm grieving for the dead in Iraq.
And, I'm not about to support anyone who advocated the slaughter.
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Joe the Revelator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-04 05:50 PM
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13. and yet..
by not using your vote, you're actually enabling the person who actually mislead the country and got our troops into the mess they are in.
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-04 05:52 PM
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14. You mean like Kerry & Edwards who voted for it?
And, still defend their votes? Sorry, but I'm voting against the war and the people who made it and continue it.
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DjTj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-04 05:59 PM
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15. Please think of hundreds more soldiers who will die...
...in the next four years as Bush continues to refuse to work with our allies for support and as he turns his military aspirations towards others in his "axis of evil".

...Think of the thousands that will die from the next big terrorist attack perpetrated by those children around the world who see the face of Bush and will grow up believing that America is an arrogant imperialist enemy.

Please think of the future.
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library_max Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-04 07:14 PM
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23. So your theory is that if SCOTUS had allowed the election results
and Gore was president now, it would have been Kerry and Edwards who would have led the nation to invade Iraq?

Really?

Think about it a second. Really?

Or is this just an excuse to smack around candidates you don't like?
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NashVegas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-04 06:03 PM
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16. Don't Be Afraid - They Really Can't Harm You
What's going on here is a two-fold attempt; the first priority is to pry you away from the thought of voting for Dean in the primaries. Once they've accomplised that (and some apparently think it is accomplished) they'll fight amongst each other to get you to vote for *their* guy.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-04 06:03 PM
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17. You should be more frightened of Kerry leading Dems to defeat in the Fall
Edited on Wed Jan-21-04 06:04 PM by IndianaGreen
If the Democrats nominate a prowar and PATRIOT apologist candidate like John Kerry, it will permanently harm and split the party.

The split will come after the November Elections, when despite our voting for Kerry while holding our noses, he brings another DLC defeat to fruition. The recriminations and finger-pointing will be long lasting and bitter!

Ironically, the only pro-IWR candidate that may actually win in November is Edwards. The reason: Edwards is not a Washington insider, and he is not a gun-grabbing Massachusetts Skull & Bones elitist.
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-04 06:06 PM
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18. Suggestion: you need to strike that "Kerry" from your subject title
I haven't seen ONE poster on this board spouting "nobody but Kerry" Can't say the same for the other, though...
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Adjoran Donating Member (650 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-04 06:09 PM
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19. I'm an optimist
I really believe that once we settle on a nominee, the Party will close ranks behind him.

Right now we are in the heat of battle. Emotions run high. That is natural, and not at all a bad thing. People should be passionate about their candidate.

We just have to remember not to burn the bridges between us in the hard weeks ahead.
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sangha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-04 07:10 PM
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21. Turnout DOUBLED in Iowa from 2000 to 2004
Who cares about the handful of purists?
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library_max Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-04 07:15 PM
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24. We need all hands on deck.
Remember 2000?
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LuminousX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-04 07:13 PM
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22. Please realize
in this highly partisan environment, any sign of weakness is viciously attacked. By putting up a wall and saying I'm NB*, you are essentially saying "don't bother trying to convert me." I think of it a lot like my blasting Death Metal when the religious door knockers come through my neighborhood. I don't necessarily think Death Metal is great, but it keeps the timid away, and those who still bravely knock on my door are probably going to be really interesting to talk to.

At no point in time do I take NB* seriously. For me it is a time and place thing. Right now, on this board, a person is NB*, but in November ... that is a different ballgame.
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WoodrowFan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-04 07:15 PM
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25. Big Babies
It's just their way of having a tantrum "If I can't win I'm taking my ball and going home! WAAAAAAAA". Some people will insist on being pure no matter how many people will die as a result if * gets re-elected. They are moral midgets who think they are giants.
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Stuckinthebush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-04 07:29 PM
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26. It truly is idiotic
to say that you will only support so-and-so when so much is at stake in 2004. I agree with you, I am frightened by the myopia of some who support so-and-so and only so-and-so.

My only hope is that this is just primary rhetoric. Perhaps they will come around when it is clear that the future of our country and everything we hold dear is threatened by another four years of Bush.

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